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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread
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Japanese, Mayan, Christianity (yes, controversial, I know, this is coming from a Christian), Egyptian, and maybe explaining Roman mythology.
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Well other franchises like Digimon (with the Seven Demon lords) and Shin Megami Tensei has Christianity so it wouldn’t be too far fetched if God of War does it at some point. I guess the only controversial thing would be calling it a mythology.
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Japanese, Egyptian, and Celtic are confirmed to be a part of the cosmology.
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Yeah. Besides, people disrespect Christianity all the time these days and mostly nobody gives a shit. I mean I don't think they should have Kratos kill Jesus or anything like that
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Yeah in the mural in the last game
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GoW is a very mainstream game, ingrained into pop culture. The concept of GoW+Christianity would most likely be controversial, because it's a series about killing Gods. I think buddism or islamic religions being in GoW would be more controversial. Be cool to see them though
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Yeah, perhaps. Buddhism and Islam, especially Islam, would be extremely controversial. Maybe they'll better off with little hints here and there. But it's unfortunate, Fights with Sampson, Leviathan, Michael, Lucifer, would be sick.
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Absolutely
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Maybe they should make their own mythology. No controversy there, at least.
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Yeah, anything Lovecraft would be sick
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He looks like George R.R Martin
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Will this actually be the last GoW game for Norse
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I'm hoping he has some crazy abstract stuff. Maybe he takes the shape of Zeus or Ares at one point to **** with us while summoning maelstroms of ravens or using his 18 chants.
I think we definitely will since Freya is canonically their one true queen in lore and we already know a bit about Sigrun
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Regarding Thor, how do you think it'll go down? I have a feeling he'll beat Kratos at first and perhaps kidnap Atreus and Kratos will have to find him while getting stronger.
I wouldn't be too surprised if Kratos folds Thor immediately but I doubt it'll happen like that.
I wouldn't be too surprised if Kratos folds Thor immediately but I doubt it'll happen like that.
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Yeah they're definitely pushing him as being an equal to Kratos and probably a major problem (which is odd because of Baldur but eh).
Depending on scaling he could be right up there with Zeus but we need to come to that after Ragnarok tho (feel free to ask me about it on Discod)
TBH I'm torn
I think it fits this version of Thor quite well; this gluttonous manchild without discipline who relies on raw power and probably can't fight all that well. I definitely like the contrast with Kratos (whom trained for his muscle mass) since he probably was merry and enjoyed hedonism in Valhalla. You could also see it as putting him far beyond any glamorous ideas; reducing him to just this barbaric Thunder God.
That said I was hoping for something closer to Hafthor Bjornsson in build but I'm aslo a huge fan of depictions like these
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Baldur was weird since he technically scales to Thor through Jorm and should he even harder to deal with due to his curse. Guess we'll see what the Thunder God has up his sleeves.
I actually think the design is very fitting, considering his characterization in the previous game. My issue with it is purely aesthetic and personal.
Also yeah, he seems to be more of a brute force fighter since most of the foes he's fought were simply bludgeoned to death by his hammer or just matched blow for blow.
Starkaotr was ironically too much for him in a one one one too.
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Thor is definitely powerful, but his design does leave a lot to be desired in terms of being intimidating.
While I don't deny thor might smack kratos around a good bit, idk if i'm willing to put thor above Zeus, or even on par with him. Obviously we have to see him on screen, but I'm expecting far more from Odin than Thor.
To be fair, mimir only knows kratos from stories, he doesn't "actually" know how much of a monster kratos was in the old games.
While I don't deny thor might smack kratos around a good bit, idk if i'm willing to put thor above Zeus, or even on par with him. Obviously we have to see him on screen, but I'm expecting far more from Odin than Thor.
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Gee this thread came far, and I wasn't even aware.
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Yeah I follow Hafthor on Instagram, he's even bigger now. The funny thing is I have that exact same art in my phone. Thor looks really scary.
I can see this. I believe in actual Norse mythology, he had a ring that could clone the user infinitely. Kinda like Zeus, would be a nice, and annoying throwback.
Also the Thor design Shananagans are dumb as ****. The way people are reacting to people who don't like it, Is ******* crazy lmao. I literally got on Twitter and simply said "not a fan of it, but I don't really care, can't wait to fight him, still gonna buy the game" and lot of people started saying I don't know anything about nOrsE MYthOlgY, and then, HaHa McU fAn,
And then some guy said, ''he's just a game character" I said "Really?" And then he blocked me lol.
It was actually funny as hell.
It's not accurate to Norse mythology, cause no one ever said he was fat, just that he ate a lot.
Especially considering how he's never depicted as fat in statues, classic artworks, and such, he's always muscular. Even then, when has gow ever cared about mythological accuracy?
But I honestly think they're playing for ***** and giggles and he doesn't actually look like that
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Personally i'm not a fan of this fat Thor design
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Me neither. It's annoying how they're trying to label everyone who doesn't like it "idiots who know nothing about Norse mythology"
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Nah that's most likely how he looks, but Megingjörð most likely magically sucks all of it in seeing how he looks in game with all his gear on.
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Unfortunately
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They’re also labeling them as fatphobic
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Lol yes. Irritating. That whole word is a joke. And This is coming from a fatty. And What I notice is usually they preserve that term for women. But that's a topic for another day
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Yeah he got a lot of definition for boxing right?
Huh can't remember that but it could be fun
It's annoying because accuracy to mythology is dumb as hell. So much of what we know of Norse Myth is what Christian scholars passed down to us (I'm pretty sure the man and women after Raganarok was a biblical allusion) and none of the art really portrays Thor as being obese. Plus again, myth changes based on the teller and cultural context so we're probably looking at thousands of versions here (Medusa being assaulted by Poseidon was an invention of Ovid, a Roman scholar hundreds of years after Greece)
Bruh
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Plus I doubt Monica is going for accuracy, they completely rewrote Greek Myth and have done their fair share of modifications to characters from Germanic mythology
In fairness most of the art is from after the main Norse period but yeah it's not something treated as there
Hmm perhaps; it does feel weird they unveiled Thor so quickly
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This
i don't understand where "Thor was always fat in mythology thing came from"
like no art i've seen involving Norse Thor ever said he was
feels like some mad revision of history here
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Yeah .
He's also in the upcoming borderlands movie so that as well jacked him up
Yeah, I read that somewhere a few years back. I seen it on a GOW Theory vid as well, before it was out.
Very ******* irritating. even beyond christians scholars (who already twisted Norse mythology) we know almost nothing about Norse mythology in the first place. The Vikings didn't really like recording their history. Absolutely. Their is 0 art that depicts Thor as Overweight. Only thing said is that he has a great appetite (strong men in real life eat all the time)
Bruh, I genuinely thought me and him were having playful interaction. I honestly really dislike social media.
I know right? By this logic you might as well call out the entire series.
-There is no Kratos (there is a guy named cratos, but he just has the same name)
-There is no blade of Olympus
-Castor and Pollox weren't conjoined.
I could honestly go on and on. And that's just the Greek side
Yes. It's crazy. Maybe there's still depictions of Thor, yet to discovered, I bet a million bucks he won't be fat.
Maybe, but to be fair we knew we'd be fighting him, and they left us for almost a year.
But this fat Thor stuff is reminiscent of the "he actually had red hair" stuff.
You know he was once described as having hair "as fair as gold" and there's a few pieces of art that depicts him with lightly colored hair.
But this is much better than the fat Thor debate, because both have evidence behind them at least. He's also described as having red hair numerous times.
I bet these people didn't even know what Norse mythology was until this game came out, and all of sudden they're experts on it.
Man. I hate being a Sony fan sometimes.
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It's so ******* weird and mindboggling how folks are on this idea that he was ever fat.
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