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5D :Ain't this an inconclusive? Llama lord has conceptual NEP but his offensive powers are still 4-D (bar I think Creation). Mr. Clean is all 5-D but can't harm his opponent.
AP isn't that relevant here (Kratos has an advantage but it's not really anything noteworthy). All of that is resisted bar I think Existence Erasure. The Incorporeality isn't that much of an issue since well, he's an incarnation of a concept and can destroy and absorb beings on that level plus, Athena had a similar shtick and would've still died.5D :
1. AP
2. Power Absorption
3. EE
4. Power Null
5D key of Arceus doesn't have nep but he has Incorporeality bordering on abstract Existence for being the "light" that guides and protects all Pokémon. That's the only thing Kratos has to get past.
Apparently this key of Arceus doesn't have NEP. But the EE is still an issue.incon, llama can't do anything to Kratos but Kratos can't interact with llama
Apparently the NEP is 6-D key. So, he currently can.incon, llama can't do anything to Kratos but Kratos can't interact with llama
Ay yo whatApparently the NEP is 6-D key. So, he currently can.
Kratos is a conceptual being with PoH. EE won't do much in this position. EE can't interact with Concept of hope.Apparently this key of Arceus doesn't have NEP. But the EE is still an issue.
oh?Apparently the NEP is 6-D key. So, he currently can.
5-D key, Also, Arceus has NEP in 6-D key. Additionally, NEP is only one part of Arceus. So Arceus completly is NEP, and character without NEP interaction in 6-D can still interact with Arceus.Wait so which one is the 5-D key and which one is the 6-D key? I am legitimately confused.
The Avatar is 5-D and True Form 6-D? I'm not sure where the confusion is.Wait so which one is the 5-D key and which one is the 6-D key? I am legitimately confused.
Anyway. Arceus removes Kratos powers and makes a plate out of it. While he remains uniniteractable in his incorporeal form5D :
1. AP
2. Power Absorption
3. EE
4. Power Null
5D key of Arceus doesn't have nep but he has Incorporeality bordering on abstract Existence for being the "light" that guides and protects all Pokémon. That's the only thing Kratos has to get past.
Universal Energy System stuff. Basically, his magic scales to all of his statistics and could overcome Athena, who herself gained magical power of a higher order when she ascended beyond the pantheons.i'd like to know why kratos' hax is 5D since i missed the upgrade on him
Huh, so it is effective. Guess it goes back to how quick he'd be to use it.anyway, arceus' EE can erase the concept of spirit so it should affect hope there as well
Kratos can't get past Arceus Plates at all, in fact he can't see Arceus in the first place.Huh, so it is effective. Guess it goes back to how quick he'd be to use it.
I've only seen what you said in cm1, can you give me the context for EE?i'd like to know why kratos' hax is 5D since i missed the upgrade on him
anyway, arceus' EE can erase the concept of spirit so it should affect hope there as well
He resists that (Heck, the one time his resistance was overcome, the sliver of Hope he had access to specifically wasn't affected at all). And again, Incorporeality isn't really a win condition seeing as Athena couldn't be interacted with either, prior to him getting Hope.Anyway. Arceus removes Kratos powers and makes a plate out of it. While he remains uniniteractable in his incorporeal form
And I ask again, how likely is this to come out before Kratos uses essentially any power available to him?Or just EE Kratos and call it a day
Upscaled from the Creation Trio who could erase the concept of spiritI've only seen what you said in cm1, can you give me the context for EE?
What does this have to do with erasing Concept?He can EE the cosmology which includes his copies who are 1:1 him with all the plates, which are 5D
Arceus has resistance negation as well. In fact I see nothing in Kratos profile that stops ArceusHe resists that (Heck, the one time his resistance was overcome, the sliver of Hope he had access to specifically wasn't affected at all).
Incorporeality doesn't encompass everything. In fact it's borderline Abstract Existence since he can choose to materialize as light from his Fount from, which exists around and guides all Pokémon in the cosmology.And again, Incorporeality isn't really a win condition seeing as Athena couldn't be interacted with either.
Name one that are getting past the platesAnd I ask again, how likely is this to come out before Kratos uses essentially any power available to him?
Bro this is only cm1 contextthat's all it takes for UES to scale to hax? cool, arceus hax should be 5D as well, at least if that hax thread ever comes back or a new one is made
anyway yeah,
Upscaled from the Creation Trio who could erase the concept of spirit
is just a case of the feat not being listed in two different abilities it seems
If it's provable that this energy system exists, inherently affects both statistics, hax and resistance and that it's what empowers them even at higher-dimensional levels then you can make the attempt to upgrade him back, sure.that's all it takes for UES to scale to hax? cool, arceus hax should be 5D as well, at least if that hax thread ever comes back or a new one is made
What you said comes from erasing the concept of soul in creation for Type 1 CM but no such context for EE. In short, there is no conceptual interaction in EE. In addition, the concept of soul and conceptual manipulation are 4-D depending on the context in profile. (I'm assuming creation and the multiverse in 4-D.)i'd like to know why kratos' hax is 5D since i missed the upgrade on him
anyway, arceus' EE can erase the concept of spirit so it should affect hope there as well
If you erase entities that can erase concepts, it doesn't mean that you can erase concepts...Upscaled from the Creation Trio who could erase the concept of spirit
Nah, the latter is 5D for the case of Pokemon. Arceus has 5D Creation.What you said comes from erasing the concept of soul in creation for Type 1 CM but no such context for EE. In short, there is no conceptual interaction in EE. In addition, the concept of soul and conceptual manipulation are 4-D depending on the context in profile. (I'm assuming creation and the multiverse in 4-D.)
And Kratos resists Resistance Negation. On this same key. And resists Power Absorption since he was a Demigod, also in that key (it's weirdly labelled as Power Null though).Arceus has resistance negation as well. In fact I see nothing in Kratos profile that stops Arceus
So yes, Arceus takes away his powers all the same.
Athena does have Abstract Existence on top of it so I dunno why you hyper fixate on this. It's not that impressive here.Incorporeality doesn't encompass everything. In fact it's borderline Abstract Existence since he can choose to materialize as light from his Fount from, which exists around and guides all Pokémon in the cosmology.
The same plates with apparently 4-D resistances?Name one that are getting past the plates
It's seems CM Type 1.Upscaled from the Creation Trio who could erase the concept of spirit
is just a case of the feat not being listed in two different abilities it seems