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GGZ Tier 0 Yog Sothoth Upgrade

The scan you sent doesn't say that he created all Greek gods, and the story of Chronos doesn't say she is the oldest in the universe.
时间之神柯罗诺斯,最古老而又原始神,她掌控着时 间,定下世界在时间流动之中永恒不变的规则,那就 是,世间万物均无法永恒不变,而无论是人类亦或是 神,哪怕觉得有所不妥也只能接受,只因为他们无法 逆其规则而生存。
Chronos, the goddess of Time, is the oldest and primitive god. She controls time, sets the eternal and unchanging rules of the world in the flow of time, that is, everything in the world cannot be eternal and unchanging. And whether it is a human being or a god, even if it feels wrong, they can only accept it because they can't survive against her rules.
In Thanatos's Universe, the king of Gods is Zeus. So, it's reasonable to think Lord Of Myrid Realms created greek gods. I mean if there're other gods from other myth, that could be a problem right?
This ability that holds the symbol of "rule" that is exactly what the King of the Gods Zeus fell in love with
Again, which part says "birth of all gods? Why does "birth of gods" randomly include Chronos?
Well.....there's no outright statement for that but since Universe is made up of Ying and Yang, Yog Sothoth being the Tao should predate all of them.
Chronos didn't exist after the existence of Babylon so this proves nothing.
Eh....I don't what you mean tho
 
In Thanatos's Universe, the king of Gods is Zeus. So, it's reasonable to think Lord Of Myrid Realms created greek gods. I mean if there're other gods from other myth, that could be a problem right?
That's too much assumptions imo, same as the Tao one.
 
A question, are this verse really use Tao/Dao concept as a literally a thing that really exist in verse. Or just a name-droped concept that being use because it is cool or being somewhat connect to something in verse, i mean the author use that just for some quick explanation but not really use that or think it is a thing in the verse
 
A question, are this verse really use Tao/Dao concept as a literally a thing that really exist in verse. Or just a name-droped concept that being use because it is cool or being somewhat connect to something in verse, i mean the author use that just for some quick explanation but not really use that or think it is a thing in the verse
Needs full context. You can't name-drop things like Tao/Dao, Brahman, Ein Sof, etc…and expect to get 0 because of it.
 
A question, are this verse really use Tao/Dao concept as a literally a thing that really exist in verse
Yeah it's something that really exist. Cosmic Duality's description stated that Yin and Yang are the most fundamental elements in the Universe. HSR in chinese region mentioned a lot about this too. In Second Eruption manga, Fu Hua destroyed the link between Sirin and Will Of Honkai (Prometheus) with Edge of Taixuan (basically anti honkai martial art :3)
DO YOU THINK TAO, THE ESSENCE OF EVERY BEING AND OUTCOME WILL TAKE SIDES IN THIS WAR?
I'LL SHOW YOU THE POWER OF THE 5TH ESSENCE, THE FABRIC OF DIVINITY
THE BLADE IS FORMLESS BUT NEEDS NO FORM. THE EDGE, THOUGH SHAPELESS, FILLS EVERY SPACE.
 
After finally reading the OP. All I gathered was Yog is supposedly the “Tao/Dao.” Some scans with the Buddha and the bubbles containing forms of Tao that aren't the real Tao and more.

I mean, I can't really see much else, but Yog having an Outer-God form is a bit confusing, that would be a High 1-A+ in nature if a 0 is projecting that form. So is there an explanation for this?

I'm still unsure of 0, until I get an answer on this.
 
I mean, I can't really see much else, but Yog having an Outer-God form is a bit confusing, that would be a High 1-A+ in nature if a 0 is projecting that form. So is there an explanation for this?
The term outer god is only to refer the Cthulhu myth related characters, it is not a form. She has two avatars. One of them is implied to be in touch with Nyarthalope in Babylon. It's divided like that because yog doesn't live in Babylon, never appear in others' kizuna too.
Alternatively, a character could also be an avatar, or incarnation, of a Tier 0.
 
The term outer god is only to refer the Cthulhu myth related characters, it is not a form. She has two avatars. One of them is implied to be in touch with Nyarthalope in Babylon. It's divided like that because yog doesn't live in Babylon, never appear in others' kizuna too.
So said “avatar” is intrinsically linked to the true form of Yog? I mean if you have a way of showing some sort of divine simplicity between the avatar and true form then I see it as fine, and also if that avatar at will can retroactively use its own essence(power) or return to its oneness at will. If that's the case then 0 is fine.
 
So said “avatar” is intrinsically linked to the true form of Yog? I mean if you have a way of showing some sort of divine simplicity between the avatar and true form then I see it as fine, and also if that avatar at will can retroactively use its own essence(power) or return to its oneness at will. If that's the case then 0 is fine.
There's not much context about the avatars. Instead of said "avatars" being seperate characters, they are still Yog Sothoth but not the original one. I searched a bit about Aforgomon's avatar. In real Cthullu myth, Aforgomon is also Yog Sothoth's avatar. So, GGZ yog sothoth is basically 1:1 copy of that - _ -
 
There's not much context about the avatars. Instead of said "avatars" being seperate characters, they are still Yog Sothoth but not the original one. I searched a bit about Aforgomon's avatar. In real Cthullu myth, Aforgomon is also Yog Sothoth's avatar. So, GGZ yog sothoth is basically 1:1 copy of that - _ -
I’m little shaky about that then. I mean the description of Yog being beyond language and description is a good indicator for 0 but some of these things need to be explained. I’m neutral for now, hopefully Ultima have something useful to say.
 
I’m little shaky about that then. I mean the description of Yog being beyond language and description is a good indicator for 0 but some of these things need to be explained. I’m neutral for now, hopefully Ultima have something useful to say.
The issue for me is if you give TF yog tier 0 then where does her avatars and vise the red gate you have to light up in "Outer space" to get the awakened yog form?
Same with the other gods like this is hypothetical
TF yog = tier 0
Azathoth? = high 1-A+?

The mother? 1-A?
Thanatos and zeus should be low 1-A and 1-A?
Dreamlands 2-A to low 1-A?
so forth thats my issue. Do we just make a consistent chain from tf yog being the strongest and work are way down on separate CRTs?


There's not much context about the avatars. Instead of said "avatars" being seperate characters, they are still Yog Sothoth but not the original one. I searched a bit about Aforgomon's avatar. In real Cthullu myth, Aforgomon is also Yog Sothoth's avatar. So, GGZ yog sothoth is basically 1:1 copy of that - _ -
yea the funny thing is not to appeal to game mechanics but you have to use yog to unlock aforgomon yog lol
 
The issue for me is if you give TF yog tier 0 then where does her avatars and vise the red gate you have to light up in "Outer space" to get the awakened yog form?
Same with the other gods like this is hypothetical
TF yog = tier 0
Azathoth? = high 1-A+?
Technically, speaking 0 do not rely on High 1-A+. If a 0 does project an avatar that connected to the original thing then it’s automatically High 1-A+. Everything else would be by factor, if scaling to the avatar, if said avatar didn’t merge back into its Oneness, wouldn’t grant any tier really. High 1-A typically comes in a form of an order that would originally be High 1-A+, but the introduction of a 0 avatar would bump it down to High 1-A, or more formally just transcends the hierarchy of R>F for High 1-A.

So, probably speaking, if Az is the avatar(I don’t think it is) then it would get High 1-A+, if not then the cosmology and its hierarchy would need to be established. If it’s capped at 1-A, then Az would only qualify as one extra layer oppose to a different hierarchy like High 1-A.

Regardless, a certain Administrator could help us, hopefully.
 
About the Babylonian God of War, wasn't this thing stunned by a mountain-level attack? Then this attack of extent is enough to hurt most of the godhood.
 
About the Babylonian God of War, wasn't this thing stunned by a mountain-level attack? Then this attack of extent is enough to hurt most of the godhood.
Yeah....that's on their scale. Wonderland is already described as an imaginary space.
 
About the Babylonian God of War, wasn't this thing stunned by a mountain-level attack? Then this attack of extent is enough to hurt most of the godhood.
1-A mountain level, yes if the other thread gets accepted. Or Low 1-A at most.

Sometimes people tend to forget that Tier 9-3 also applies on Tier 1 (let's just say Low 1-C).
Literally if you destroy any structure whether it's a wall, a building, a mountain, an island, a country, a planet, a solar system, a galaxy, or an universe that's a 5-D structure (like 5-D wall). You'd still get Low 1-C, lol.

But most of the time, no fiction does that so we just scale basically from the implication that it's a Low 1-A structure, so then they get Low 1-A.
 
Yeah....that's on their scale. Wonderland is already described as an imaginary space.
However, the shard of God of war is also described as a less than realistic planet. How do you explain this?
Please take out the place where fairyland is superior to the real world, and the same honkai 2 is described as the strongest character performance only through the moon.
 
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1-A mountain level, yes if the other thread gets accepted. Or Low 1-A at most.

Sometimes people tend to forget that Tier 9-3 also applies on Tier 1 (let's just say Low 1-C).
Literally if you destroy any structure whether it's a wall, a building, a mountain, an island, a country, a planet, a solar system, a galaxy, or an universe that's a 5-D structure (like 5-D wall). You'd still get Low 1-C, lol.

But most of the time, no fiction does that so we just scale basically from the implication that it's a Low 1-A structure, so then they get Low 1-A.
Do you mean inside any planet level 1-a? It's impossible, right? Most of the godhood just didn't appear in the plot, just introduced, so it looks stronger.
 
Do you mean inside any planet level 1-a? It's impossible, right? Most of the godhood just didn't appear in the plot, just introduced, so it looks stronger.
I mean, if it's truly described as an imaginary space then yeah as imaginary space in itself is atleast 1-A in nature but this would contradict the absolute infinity statement so Low 1-A is the safest option atm.

Well, what do you expect though? You can significantly affect Wonderland and you would just scale to imaginary space's rating lmao. It's always been like that in VSBW except if you can prove that it doesn't correlate to imaginary space in any way possible..
 
I mean, if it's truly described as an imaginary space then yeah as imaginary space in itself is atleast 1-A in nature but this would contradict the absolute infinity statement so Low 1-A is the safest option atm.

Well, what do you expect though? You can significantly affect Wonderland and you would just scale to imaginary space's rating lmao. It's always been like that in VSBW except if you can prove that it doesn't correlate to imaginary space in any way possible..
You don't understand what I'm saying, I mean the character who affects fairyland, part of him may not be moon mass.
 
Are we forgetting that godhood never has no beginning and no end? They are realized according to the novels and beliefs written by human beings. In other words, there are novels and so on written by human beings before there is godhood, and godhood must rely on the belief power of novels to enhance its strength. Is this also in line with the rating criteria above 1-A?
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Similarly, in addition to the previous God of War matchless is the peak of godhood, other aspects of the plot also mentioned that God of War matchless is the strongest godhood.
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