Geralt vs Snake

[Twellas]

sorry, but Snake DOES have his weapons, simply not his 8-A ones (stingers and... that's it really). Stuff like grenades, pistols, tranq gun and stun knife are usable

 

[KLOL506]

What Twellas said. Spooky also explicitly stated that he only restricted 8-A weapons.

 

[Twellas]

On that note, does Geralt resist getting stunned by the stun knife?

 

[SpookyShadow]

Hmmm... he is pretty used to be stunned but it might have some level of effect on him

 

[SpookyShadow]

Yeah I meant he has no 8-A weapons, he would one shot Geralt if that was the case

 

[Twellas]

Geralt's profile doesn't list any sort of resistence to status inducement of that kind, it's fair to say he would be affected by them, and if Geralt gets stunned it's game over

 

[Twellas]

I rest my case, a single hit from a stun knife, stun grenade or tranq gun lands and Geralt is done, and Snake is more than skilled enough to make that happen at least once, especially when Geralt has no idea what Snake's equipment does or how it works. Snake FRA

 

[SpookyShadow]

Won't say Geralt will allow that with his abilities (Yrden, Heliotrope et cetera)... but vote counted anyway, since it's wincon

 

[Twellas]

I think we can both agree Snake is skilled enough to land A SINGLE hit with the stun knife, is he not? Especially when Geralt has no reason to consider it any more dangerous than a normal knife

 

[Twellas]

does Geralt even have a wincon other than eventually being able to cut deep enough through Snake's armor and skin to kill him?

 

[SpookyShadow]

Yes, as Yrden drains life force and shoots lightning bolts

Geralt would probably hear the electric charge in Stun knife

 

[Twellas]

Pretty sure there is no life-drain on the profile, and Snake can easily tank electricity since he scales to Big Boss who can tank 8-B lightning.

The stun knife only unleashes a charge when it strikes, but yeah, it's not completely out of the question that he could deduce something is up with the blade

 

[SpookyShadow]

Honestly I have no idea if it's poison or life-draining. Anyone who gets catched in Yrden gets just their health dropped massively.

Stun knife looks really futuristic tbh. Still, Geralt can block it.

Geralt has also blinding bombs, Yrden paralyzing/slowing down, Heliotrope also slowing down et cetera

 

[Twellas]

Yrden only really slows down movement speed, covers a small area and doesnt' last very long at all, it won't be that serious of a problem.

Geralt's only wincon is slowly withering at Snake's health, with a number of hax to help him do that, sure, but it's still a far less reliable wincon than Snake's, who only has to land a single blow with a stun knife to win. From what i remember Geralt doesn't even spam signs canonically, he uses them, sure, but not to the point of completely relying on them.

 

[SpookyShadow]

He doesn't completely rely on Signs and doesn't spam them, but if Snake goes with unknown weapon at him Yrden might be used by him to not get hit by something looking so futuristic. In close range Yrden works, of course it doesn't in long but in close yes.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Also we didn't mention this, but Quen reflecting back some of the damage might come in handy. Plus Quen is low 7-B, so even with his best weapons snake won't be able to damage Geralt so long as it's up.

 

[Apollodoro055]

Also we didn't mention this, but Quen reflecting back some of the damage might come in handy. Plus Quen is low 7-B, so even with his best weapons snake won't be able to damage Geralt so long as it's up.

Quen is 7-B actually, and with reflection attack is low 7-C/7-C.

 

[Twellas]

Also we didn't mention this, but Quen reflecting back some of the damage might come in handy. Plus Quen is low 7-B, so even with his best weapons snake won't be able to damage Geralt so long as it's up.

if it's low 7-B then it should be restricted. Wouldn't be fair to take Snake's 8-A guns away and keep Geralt's low 7-B shield

 

[Twellas]

He doesn't completely rely on Signs and doesn't spam them, but if Snake goes with unknown weapon at him Yrden might be used by him to not get hit by something looking so futuristic. In close range Yrden works, of course it doesn't in long but in close yes.

yeah i know, I'm not saying he's not gonna use Yrden, or Aard, I'm just pointing out that he won't use Yrden every time they engage, he won't use aard to constantly send Snake away, he might use them once, twice, but not constantly.

 

[KLOL506]

Low 7-B comes at a massive cost. Body Quen gets negged on 4-5 hits and Dome Quen severely restricts Geralt's ability to run around anywhere.

Plus, Quen is only used as a last resort or if Geralt's dealing with ranged attacks. Otherwise he'll choose to go melee most of the time.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

@Twellas

I believe it automatically breaks away after a couple of hits, and I don't think the damage it reflects is all that high but I could be wrong on that.

 

[Twellas]

still, if it's a Low 7-B shield it should be restricted, especially when one of the characters already has his strongest weapons stripped away due to being higher tier

 

[Twellas]

Snake's Stinger also has a number of inconveniences, but it's still restricted

 

[SpookyShadow]

Quen is not in character in normal battle. It is against ranged attacks

 

[KLOL506]

How many 8-A weapons does Snake have? Which ones are they?

Regardless, Geralt Quens ranged attacks but shifts gears in CQC

 

[SpookyShadow]

I believe the 8-A weapons are bombs and things like solar gun

 

[Twellas]

All his rocket launchers from MGS1.

If he doesn't use it in-character it's fine, but why even bring it up then?

 

[KLOL506]

Because if Snake goes in for ranged attacks he's not gonna get a proper shot due to Quen being a thing.

 

[SpookyShadow]

He needs to be in close range

 

[Twellas]

that simply means that he'll go straight for the stun knife as a weapon

 

[SpookyShadow]

"It's easy to forget what a bump is in the middle of a thread"

- Solid Snake

 

[SpookyShadow]

Bump

 

[Twellas]

srry, kinda busy, I'm working on another CRT for Big Boss, The Boss, Solid Snake, Ocelot, Volgin and I'm working on laying down the stats for a profile for The Sorrow. I'm going to be adding something like 10 abilities

 

[SpookyShadow]

No problem

 

[Twellas]

oh, i forgot, is this End of MGS4 Snake? Because if he is then FOXDIE is going to be a proble,, and i know Geralt resists disease, but so does Snake, and in MGS1 we are told that FOXDIE is still going to kill him when it activates for him.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Nah, not end of. It's midgame. I think Geralt could resist FOXDIE virus

 

[SpookyShadow]

"Unfortunately, bumping is one of those things that gets easier the more you do it."

- Solid Snake

 

[BakiHanma18]

Upon review of new points, I think I'm concretely going to vote Geralt

 

[M3X_2.0]

I think that's 5 for Geralt

 

[SpookyShadow]

6 actually