Geo Stellar vs. Jaime Reyes (Two Kids With Blue Alien Partners) (Voting Completed)

[Starter_Pack]

Jaime was soaring over the AMAKEN labs, after his beetle sensed a large amount of some strange, un-earthly energy in the nearby area. Suddenly, his sensors picked up two distinct energy sources above the lab, appearing to be in the middle of a fight. As the Beetle began to make adjustments to process this new energy, he saw two individuals battling on what appeared to be a road in the sky, a man in red and a man in blue. As he approached, the one in blue noticed him and became distracted, which gave the red individual an opportunity to suddenly warp away from the fight. Upon realizing what happened, the man in blue became furious with Jamie, demanding why he let him get away. The being that served as the blue man's weapon suddenly warned him that he wasn't an EM Wave, but rather someone with some kind of alien technology, that gave off an energy he didn't like. Confirming this, the man in blue readied himself to fight against Jaime, and seeing no other way of talking him down, the Blue Beetle did the same, preparing for the fight of his life.

In the blue corner, we have the Blue Beetle from DC Comics, and in the red corner, we have Geo Stellar from Mega Man Star Force.



-This is a fight to the death or incapacitation. No holds barred.
-Neither character are aware of each other beforehand, and there is no prep time.

-Due to the nature of their powers, Omega-Xis and the Beetle will help in this fight. Outside of that, no outside help is allowed.

-This battle takes place on the Wave Road above AMAKEN lab, giving the home-field advantage to Geo.

-Mega-Man starts in base, but can easily to switch to his other forms, including his Finalized Noise form.

-Speed is equalized.

With all this being said, let the debate begin!

Mega-Man: 1 (ABoogieYesSir)

Blue Beetle: 2 (CrimsonStarFallen, Yobobojojo)

Inconclusive: 7 (VioletVoid100, Milly Rocking Bandit, Jasonsith, Phoenix821, DragonEmperor23, BruceTheBatman, Ionliosite)

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Geo low diff.

Jaime has no way to negate his passive intangibility (he's able to be untouchable by the world around him yet can interact with it somehow), and even worst, if he could Geo can somehow make himself even more intangible (characters like him being unable to harm him). With speed unequal though, unless Geo scales to MegaMan.EXE's higher end feats (I'd need a refresher, but I don't think he does), he'll never hit Reyes with a straight up strike. Also, Geo's Mu Barrier, which regens with his movements, isn't something that Reyes can really get past.

I think Geo should have the AP advantage too, since BB is << Superman afaik, who is 600 kilofoe. Geo is >>> 300 Kilofoe since he can easily one-shot a fusion that includes 3 fairly comparable characters, one of which has a super casual 100 kilofoe feat.

Also, Geo's ability to build up noise, which corrupts technology very quickly with radiation, even against characters who scale to characters who can do similar things (Noise can overwhelm Harp Note and Taurus Fire, both of whom scale to Gemini Spark who can control people via electromagnetic waves to an extent as well as all FMians and even some EM-Wizards generally being able to control, corrupt and manipulate technology to some extent). Geo scales to this sort of thing to a planetary range, maybe higher. Whlie Reyes has resistance, I doubt it's good enough to resist something that could instantly reduce all technology on a planet with much better tech than anything today, to effectively the stone age, nor someone who scales to and ultimately becomes far more powerful than said meteor. Reyes resistance to hacking won't do him any better either since it isn't hacking in any conventional sense.

Another thing, Geo can convert Reyes to electromagnetic waves with Dread Laser, and most probably other Noise based attacks such as Red Gaia Eraser. These are some of his most powerful attacks and since this is no holds barred... I don't think Reyes could resist that.


Analyzing Reyes relevent powers powers

Regenerationn (Low-Mid): Won't matter, since Geo can likely kill him with one hit, and definitely can with his more lethal powers like Dread Laser

Technological Manipulation: Geo's works on a far greater scale, as far as I know. But Geo isn't a piece of technology isn't anyway.

Hacking: Geo isn't a piece of technology and his hunter VG becomes EM waves with him when he EM Wave Changes, don't think it'll work

Energy Manipulation and Absorption: Geo has attack reflection, although absorption could prove a problem,

Reactive Evolution and Adaptation: I doubt there is anything in the Scarab's DNA that could foresee something like noise

Teleportation: Shared, and Geo can spam it much more effectively as far as I know

Time Dilatio: Geo also may have a time stop with his attacks, so this is a neutral thing

Invisibility, and Psuedo-Causality Manipulation with Dimension Shifting: Neither of these are useful.

Time Travel: Reyes doesn't know who Geo is, and not many people have figured out who Mega Man is. It's not in his character to just time travel to someone with a mysterious identity to kill them as far as I know.

Explosion Manipulation: Geo has this as well to a small extent (not really worth noting though), and wouldn't be affected by it since he isn't made of physical matter.

Electricity Manipulation: This is the only way he can really hurt Geo

Forcefield Creation (Can create forcefields that can't be phased through): Geo doesn't phase, he isn't made of physical matter. Geo would phase through them and punch him

Radiation Manipulation: Not gonna work, and would probably make Geo stronger since Geo took control of Meteor G and went from fighting evenly with a >> 300 Kilofoe character to easily one-shotting it

Telekinesis: Geo isn't made of physical matter, not gonna work

Telepathy: All he can do is transmit his thoughts to Geo. I don't know if he can read minds, but it doesn't really matter either way.

Sound Manipulation: What will this do other than cause an annoyance.

Non-Physical Interaction (Harmed Typhoo, whose body is made of wind, fought with and hacked a group of foes with dimension shifted armor): Wind is made of physical matter, and Dimension Shifted Armor isn't comparable to Geo.

Acausality: All that means is that future blue beetle isn't dead.

Spatial Manipulation (Can pull things from in between reality and outside 3 dimensions into 3-D): I'm not sure if this will work. It might, it might not.

Power Nullification (Can negate magic and Probability Manipulation. Negated the magic of an amplified Eclipso): Geo isn't magical nor does he use probability manip.

Status Effect Inducement (Can use a population suppressor, which knocks out foes without harming them): Geo can resist noise which brings people to the point of collapse and iirc unconsciousness, it won't work.

Extrasensory Perception: Jaime wouldn't see Geo, but he could likely sense him.

Resurrection Negation: Geo doesn't have resurrection.


Most of Jaime's powers aren't really gonna help him. Geo's will. He should take this pretty handily

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

No offense, but yu're wanking Geo's intangibility hard if you think that EM waves would hold up to that level of NPI of being able to affect dimensionally shifted things.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

I don't know anything about BB other than his profile. Elaborate?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I mean, EM waves aren't as intangible as you're hyping them up to be. They're still protons and therefore matter part of this universe, which is more than you could say about things not in this universe.

Jamie has pretty much every advantage, being honest.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

Though if EM wave beings become intangible to other EM wave beings, how does that hold up to enemies with dimensional shifting armor? Because both instances are rather impressive.

Also, I feel like both hold advantages over the other. I fail to see how either has such an overwhelming advantage as either of you are painting.

 

[Starter_Pack]

Bump.

 

[Starter_Pack]

Bump.

 

[Corgi_the_Gen_Z_God]

I wanna say Geo, but Bruce is a known wanker in my eyes.

No offense please.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

None taken, and maybe, but I know nothing about BB other than what I can gather on his profile so I could be swayed. If he can ignore intan, that makes this harder for me.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Geo fra

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Don't know how accurate it is. If Jaime can ignore intangibility, this gets far more difficult IMO

 

[Starter_Pack]

Bump.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Pretty sure Blue Beatle stomps, speacially thanks to that Adaptation and Reactive Evo.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

You should also equalize speed, since Blue Beatle is in the quintillion c.

 

[Starter_Pack]

Both of their calcs show similar speeds though.

I made sure of that before making it speed unequal.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

You sure about that?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Kek.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Things in 5-D space are far more intangible then EM waves. I'll get to this in a minute.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Jaime's technological manipulation and resistance scale from Reach, who have individual ships with systems greater than the processing powers for entire planets for starters. Alien planets too.

 

[Starter_Pack]

That's right. Geo didn't have a speed calc, though his profile says 2.7 billion times the speed of light by traveling from Earth to Sagittarius A* in a short period of time.

Fine. I'll equalize speed.

There wasn't a clear link to Wonder Woman's speed in Jamie's profile either, so that didn't help.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I highly doubt Jaime can't adapt to counter what Geo throws at him when he can spontaneously generate Kryptonite radiation, and I especially highly doubt that the scarab can't analyze him when it's done it to The Phantom Stranger and The Spectre before, both far harder to analyze then anything Geo can claim to possess.

Worth noting when willing to kill, Jaime's scarab essentially has nothing holding it back, gains a massive AP boost (enough to easily beatdown people who curb stomped him before, and is immediately willing slaughter anything in the most efficient manner possible. Rookie base Jaime nearly overpowered a Yellow Lantern Unrestricted Reach Infiltrator, so he is most definitely above 600 KiloFoe. Superman just scales really high above that feat IIRC.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

The 600 kiloFOE is from Flash, so yes, Superman is much stronger.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Bump

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Bump

 

[Corgi_the_Gen_Z_God]

E

Bump

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Double bump

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Bump

 

[Corgi_the_Gen_Z_God]

pmuB

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Someone vote already

 

[Starter_Pack]

Patience is a welcomed virtue. owo

 

[Starter_Pack]

Bump.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Bump

 

[Jasonsith]

Help bump

Not voting yet

 

[Corgi_the_Gen_Z_God]

Bump. Not voting just yet...

 

[Jasonsith]

bump

(fun fact: it is argued actually Hub is blitzing Jaime in a speed unrestricted match... sadly Geo still gets blitzed.)

 

[ZettoVii]

Quite a few bumps but hardly see any arguments....

If the speed is equalized, I think I will go with Megaman since he has a wider arsenal from the get go, which would mean it would take much longer for the Scarab to adapt, in which case he doesn't exactly bring anything Geo hasn't faced before.

If speed is unequalized, it would be a stomp in Blue Beetles favor, cause of massive speed difference.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

The Scarab adapts fairly quickly tho, and Beetle has a solid AP advantage as well as better tactical skill.

 

[Corgi_the_Gen_Z_God]

Can Darkness Hole work?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

?