Genshin Impact General Discussion!

[Yoyco]

I see....I guess I gotta prepare the wallet R.I.P

 

[RatherClueless]

yeah, I personally not gonna spend till ayaka

 

[RatherClueless]

 

[Yoyco]

Got Zhongli and that new rock n roll character....that was satisfyingly good.

His burst's petrification is ridiculously good.

 

[RatherClueless]

Got Zhongli and that new rock n roll character....that was satisfyingly good.

His burst's petrification is ridiculously good.

I rly dont like how he plays tbh, especially since you basically need him to be C1 to be any good and/or have a Ningguang in your team

 

[Yoyco]

I rly dont like how he plays tbh, especially since you basically need him to be C1 to be any good and/or have a Ningguang in your team

That's understandable,

 

[Solacis]

Did we ever get a tier for either Zhongli's meteor or the Guyun Stone Forest? What's the lowest feasible tier for those feats?

 

[RatherClueless]

Did we ever get a tier for either Zhongli's meteor or the Guyun Stone Forest? What's the lowest feasible tier for those feats?

getting one for the metiorite is gonna be tough, since that one is deifinitely summoned. The lowest tier for for the stone forest would probably be within the 7-B ish range, give or take a tier.

 

[Solacis]

I'll put 7-B as the placeholder for my Zhongli sandbox then

 

[RatherClueless]

I can do the calc if you want

 

[Solacis]

Would be nice. Though we still have to take into account the fact that Guyun's 'mountains' have been worn down over thousands of years, so I doubt it could be accurately calculated. At best we'd have an "at least" rating.

 

[RatherClueless]

stone erodes at roughly 3 meters per 1000 years (in all directions), so eh. IIrc it was 2000 years ago?

 

[Solacis]

stone erodes at roughly 3 meters per 1000 years (in all directions), so eh. IIrc it was 2000 years ago?

Yeah, but like... magic stone, y'know? Plus, I highly doubt mihoyo thought about how long it'd actually take for stone to erode. Especially since those 'mountains' were meant to be stone spears, but are hardly spear-shaped in the modern day.

 

[RatherClueless]

Yeah, but like... magic stone, y'know? Plus, I highly doubt mihoyo thought about how long it'd actually take for stone to erode. Especially since those 'mountains' were meant to be stone spears, but are hardly spear-shaped in the modern day.

well yes, but if I do the calc I cant just pull assumptions out of my butt >. > also, shouldnt magic stone take longer to erode?

 

[Solacis]

I mean, I assume the spears were Geo constructs, which kind of break down pretty instantaneously.

But yeah, that's more or less why I don't think we can calc Guyun. The only calc I can think of for Morax is via scaling up from Osial, who we can get some Dura feats for by calcing the explosion caused by the full power Guizhong Ballista or the Jade Chamber drop. edit: I suppose we can also scale him up from other gods like Decarabian or at least Andrius, if they have better feats.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Tfw game give you C3 Zhongli, another copies of Mona and Lisa, Chongyun, and only got c1 Xinyan while my fave vtuber got c3 Xinyan: Internal screaming

 

[Solacis]

Tfw game gives you Childe literally 5 mins before Zhongli's banner is up despite being several dozen rolls away from pity, thereby wasting said pity on the one 5-star I have no interest in.

 

[RatherClueless]

Zhongli and Guyun Stone Forest

vsbattles.fandom.com

I expected more, ngl

Edit: not sure if its worth getting it evaluated

 

[RatherClueless]

I suppose I could calculate the velocity at which they would be, assuming they are simply dropped from those heights, which should be more

Edit: nvm, it's basically the same >. >

 

[Solacis]

Zhongli and Guyun Stone Forest

vsbattles.fandom.com

I expected more, ngl

Edit: not sure if its worth getting it evaluated

Hold on. Did you use the in-game distance measuring? The one that tells you how many metres away you are from your destination? Because that's crazy inaccurate. You can shimmy half a step forward and the thing will tell you that you've travelled a whole metre. If we followed that system, Lumine would be 8ft tall.

 

[Solacis]

I think calcing Osial's whirlpools and storms will be better for feats. There's the storm clouds, obviously, though we don't have a timeframe on those.

I got a bunch of reference images for the whirlpools here.

 

[RatherClueless]

Hold on. Did you use the in-game distance measuring? The one that tells you how many metres away you are from your destination? Because that's crazy inaccurate. You can shimmy half a step forward and the thing will tell you that you've travelled a whole metre. If we followed that system, Lumine would be 8ft tall.

it's only inaccurate for short distances, sincr it rounds the meters. It really doesn't matter for long distances. What would be far more problematic is that the size of the map isn't representative of the actual size if Teyvat

 

[Tyri456]

I agree with in game distance being wrong.
Less than an half step is equal to 1m.
I would say that 20cm=1m in game.


Maybe you can angsize some stuffs

 

[RatherClueless]

That's because the game doesn't have cm, so it rounds stuff, like 1.5m would be 2m, 1.1m would be 2m and 1.7m would also be 2m >. >

 

[Yoyco]

 

[Tyri456]

That's because the game doesn't have cm, so it rounds stuff, like 1.5m would be 2m, 1.1m would be 2m and 1.7m would also be 2m >. >

It does not, because if I make half step again it raise to 2m from 1m, it is just ****** up.
Maybe the charachter are 5meters height that would be a solution, lol.

 

[Solacis]

That's because the game doesn't have cm, so it rounds stuff, like 1.5m would be 2m, 1.1m would be 2m and 1.7m would also be 2m >. >

No it's waaaaaaaaaayyy off. Supposedly the distance between Mondstadt and Liyue is only about 4km according to the game. That's stupid considering there's a whole mountain, several plateaus and canyons, an archipelago and a large plain between them. Hell, Mondstadt alone should be at least a kilometre length-wise.

 

[Solacis]

I did some quick and rough measurements using the Mondstadt Cathedral as reference and put it against a real life structure in my neighbourhood that's of roughly the same length, rounded down to the nearest 50 metres.

Cathedral = 24.2px = 200m (rounded down generously)
Straight line dist. between the Mondstadt's gate and Liyue's = 1242.4px = 10267.769m (3 s.f.)
Dist. given by the game = ~3000m

Even with the lowest feasible numbers, the actual apparent size of the map is over triple what the game says it is.

EDIT: it'll need to be properly calced for more accurate measurements. There's a lamp post you can compare the Traveler's height to. It's right next to the staircase leading up to the cathedral, so you can pixel measure it against the length of the staircase then measure off of that from the map.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

The overworld distances are kinda skewed. Just see the Northland Bank from outside and its about the size of a room, go inside and its a lot larger than seen from outside. I believe the same goes for other enterable areas like Diluc's bar, the Church, Dawn Winery, KoF Headquarters and even the Mora minting area where we fight Childe. That being said, the size inside and out aren't consistent with each of these areas. Diluc's bar isn't that much bigger on the inside compared to outside while Northland Bank is larger on the inside.

 

[Tyri456]

I do not think the game is supposed to be pixel scaled at all.

 

[RatherClueless]

No it's waaaaaaaaaayyy off. Supposedly the distance between Mondstadt and Liyue is only about 4km according to the game. That's stupid considering there's a whole mountain, several plateaus and canyons, an archipelago and a large plain between them. Hell, Mondstadt alone should be at least a kilometre length-wise.

that's because the map isn't 1:1 >. >
Only important things like the Venti statue and stuff like that are.

 

[RatherClueless]

Made some artsy stuff

 

[Tyri456]

Good job, they are well-done

 

[TacticalNuke002]

I sure hope they give Ayaka an appropriate weapon like a sheathed katana otherwise its gonna look real silly watching her do iaido with a European longsword without sheath.

 

[Solacis]

I was going through Childe's story quest and Childe outright states that he and the Traveler frequently spar. We also know that he hates holding back, but he also states that he explicitly saves his Foul Legacy Transformation for when he actually needs it, because of the strain. From that, it's now unquestionable that the Traveler is absolutely superior to Delusion Childe, enough to force the latter to use the FLT to win. Childe even directly references their fight in the Golden House and mentions how the Traveler "had it easy" in that fight, and both state that they've since gotten stronger.

Also, our past multiplier with the FLT is wrong. Childe in FLT only destroyed 3 RGs in 10 seconds, instead of 4. So we know from the final shot of the destroyed RGs that Childe and the Traveler fought 3 together, since there are 6 destroyed RGs in the room afterward.

 

[Tyri456]

Didnt childe destroyed all of them by himself? the travel just watched iirc.

 

[Solacis]

Traveler and Childe handled the first three. Childe soloed the rest.

 

[RatherClueless]

I was going through Childe's story quest and Childe outright states that he and the Traveler frequently spar. We also know that he hates holding back, but he also states that he explicitly saves his Foul Legacy Transformation for when he actually needs it, because of the strain. From that, it's now unquestionable that the Traveler is absolutely superior to Delusion Childe, enough to force the latter to use the FLT to win. Childe even directly references their fight in the Golden House and mentions how the Traveler "had it easy" in that fight, and both state that they've since gotten stronger.

Also, our past multiplier with the FLT is wrong. Childe in FLT only destroyed 3 RGs in 10 seconds, instead of 4. So we know from the final shot of the destroyed RGs that Childe and the Traveler fought 3 together, since there are 6 destroyed RGs in the room afterward.

I fail to see how any of that first bit means traveler > Delusion Childe. Most of these points we already talked about.

We literally see him fighting 4 in the cutscene. What are you on about?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I starting to hate Genshin Impact community (except here since we just talking/discussing about lore/feats/power lel)

 

[TacticalNuke002]

I starting to hate Genshin Impact community (except here since we just talking/discussing about lore/feats/power lel)

The "Zhongli bad" circlejerk and constant misinformation?