Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[Voidnether]

Bruhh

The way it's the HoV Kiana carrying

 

[Furina003]

He most likely is a kevin expy but where does his description matches that with Phainon in terms of appearance? Cuz Phanes have only been revealed to have wings and a crown. He also doesn't match same titles as Khaslana and Kevin kaslana.

The one only thing that is not similar is that Phanes was born from an egg. In the Byakuyakoku text, it is explained that the universe is like a chicken egg, which could mean that Phanes was born from the universe itself. Phanes is also called the greater being of the universe and a higher being in the profile of Lauma.

In the description of the Evergloom Ring item, it is mentioned that Phanes is the greater being of the universe and his shadow is more real than humans themselves.
So I think Phanes is not a human who became a god, but Phanes was truly a god from birth, as mentioned in the hymn of the far north, Phanes is the true god. He is also the one who brought order to a world that originally had no rules, laws or destiny.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

The one only thing that is not similar is that Phanes was born from an egg. In the Byakuyakoku text, it is explained that the universe is like a chicken egg, which could mean that Phanes was born from the universe itself. Phanes is also called the greater being of the universe and a higher being in the profile of Lauma.

In the description of the Evergloom Ring item, it is mentioned that Phanes is the greater being of the universe and his shadow is more real than humans themselves.
So I think Phanes is not a human who became a god, but Phanes was truly a god from birth, as mentioned in the hymn of the far north, Phanes is the true god. He is also the one who brought order to a world that originally had no rules, laws or destiny.

He doesn't have a deliverer title as with Khaslana from hsr and Kevin kaslana from hi3. So those are few examples of things not similiar.

 

[OmniScalator]

He doesn't have a deliverer title as with Khaslana from hsr and Kevin kaslana from hi3. So those are few examples of things not similiar.

Phanes in CN is described to be not recognizable as male or female in appearance

While kevin would look like a male

So I think phanes is original character

I am like 50% sure phanes is going to be loli or shota, and I hate it

 

[PedjaTarzan]

phanes is Aeon

 

[Furina003]

I am like 50% sure phanes is going to be loli or shota, and I hate it

If phanes is like this, I'm really disappointed
I want phanes to have a slightly Strongest look like surtalogi and rerir.
it really fits and is good

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

If phanes is like this, I'm really disappointed
I want phanes to have a slightly Strongest look like surtalogi and rerir.
it really fits and is good

I think you are going to be disappointed like crazy

 

[Furina003]

I think you are going to be disappointed like crazy

Bro , Rerir appearance really depicts his greatness, don't let the phanes not match the narrative described in his lore

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Bro , Rerir appearance really depicts his greatness, don't let the phanes not match the narrative described in his lore

Imagine they gonna depict him with a female body but masculine face

 

[OmniScalator]

Imagine they gonna depict him with a female body but masculine face

We have a contender

 

[MSahla]

He doesn't have a deliverer title as with Khaslana from hsr and Kevin kaslana from hi3. So those are few examples of things not similiar.

Buddy if they revealed Phanes have those things that would be heavy spoiler and people would immediately recognize it.

Like imagine they told us that phanes have the name kaslana thing or the same titles as the other kevin expys, thats just a spoiler.

 

[Furina003]

Imagine they gonna depict him with a female body but masculine face

I don't want to imagine it, and want to throw it far from my mind

 

[Puppet43]

@Puppet43 do you know where does Alice scales to?

No, lmao and even i think she is featless rn (at best should be superior to Klee)

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

We have a contender

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Buddy if they revealed Phanes have those things that would be heavy spoiler and people would immediately recognize it.

Like imagine they told us that phanes have the name kaslana thing or the same titles as the other kevin expys, thats just a spoiler.

Phanes and phainon basically mean the same thing btw so mayhabs!

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

I don't want to imagine it, and want to throw it far from my mind

Imagine he was just a big bird lol.

 

[MSahla]

Phanes and phainon basically mean the same thing btw so mayhabs!

No they didn't?, The Primordial One is literally based on this:

Phanes - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

In Orphic cosmogony Phanes /ˈfeɪˌniːz/ (Ancient Greek: Φάνης, romanized: Phánēs, genitive Φάνητος) or Protogonos /proʊˈtɒɡənəs/ (Ancient Greek: Πρωτογόνος, romanized: Prōtogónos, lit. 'Firstborn') is a primeval deity who was born from the cosmic egg at the beginning of creation. He is referred by various names, including Erikepaios "Power" /ˌɛrɪkəˈpiːəs/ (Ancient Greek: Ἠρικαπαῖος/Ἠρικεπαῖος, romanized: Ērikapaîos/Ērikepaîos) and Metis "Thought".

In Orphic cosmogony, Phanes is often equated with Eros or Mithras and has been depicted as a deity emerging from a cosmic egg entwined with a serpent: the Orphic egg. He had a helmet and had broad, golden wings. The Orphic cosmogony is quite unlike the creation sagas offered by Homer and Hesiod. Scholars have suggested that Orphism is "un-Greek", even "Asiatic", in conception because of its inherent dualism.
Chronos is said to have created the silver egg of the universe out of which burst the first-born deity Phanes, or Phanes-Dionysus. Phanes was an androgynous god, with both a penis and ******. Phanes was a deity of light and goodness, whose name meant "to bring light" or "to shine"; a first-born deity, he emerged from the abyss and gave birth to the universe.

That's why in Before Sun and Moon Phanes created "The Shining Shades of Itself" because "Phanes" is "to bring light" or "to shine"

The cosmic egg, world egg or mundane egg is a mythological motif found in the cosmogonies of many cultures and civilizations, including in Proto-Indo-European mythology.Typically, there is an egg which, upon "hatching", either gives rise to the universe itself or gives rise to a primordial being who, in turn, creates the universe. The egg is sometimes lain on the primordial waters of the Earth. Typically, the upper half of the egg, or its outer shell, becomes the heaven (firmament) and the lower half, or the inner yolk, becomes the Earth. The motif likely stems from simple elements of an egg, including its ability to offer nourishment and give rise to new life, as is reflected by the Latin proverb omne vivum ex ovo ('all life comes from an egg').

All of this is almost 100% accurate to "Phanes" in Genshin Impact.

Now let's take a look at the Primordial One's description again.

"On Phanes, or The Primordial One"
The Primordial One may have been Phanes. It had wings and a crown, and was birthed from an egg, androgynous in nature. But for the world to be created, the egg's shell had to be broken. However, Phanes, the Primordial One, used the eggshell to separate the "universe" and the "microcosm of the world."

The Primordial One, the great sovereign, began the creation of heaven and earth for "our" sake — that of its creations which it cherished most, who would soon appear upon this earth.

"Heaven and Earth", is traditionally referred to as the entire Universe during the Ancient and Imperial Era of China. And not to mention, they used "天地" which can also referred to "Universe"

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

That's why in Before Sun and Moon Phanes created "The Shining Shades of Itself" because "Phanes" is "to bring light" or "to shine"

And what do you think Phainon means? Both Phainon and Phanes are derived from the Greek verb φαίνω which means to shine. So in a sense their names are basically the same lol.

 

[MSahla]

And what do you think Phainon means? Both Phainon and Phanes are derived from the Greek verb φαίνω which means to shine. So in a sense their names are basically the same lol.

No they don't? The one you gave is literally "Faino" while Phanes would be "Fanis"

 

[OmniScalator]

No they don't? The one you gave is literally "Faino" while Phanes would be "Fanis"

Yeah little bit different

But phainon also means shining

Phaenon - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

No they don't? The one you gave is literally "Faino" while Phanes would be "Fanis"

They do, Etymologically Phánîs or Φάνης is derived from the ϕαίνω. Phanes according to mythology for a reason is a deity of light himself.

 

[MSahla]

Yeah little bit different

But phainon also means shining

Phaenon - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Now that's just different, though it might be inspired from that but one different letter alone making them irrelevant between "Phanes" and "Phainon". They used "phai" instead of "Phae"

while Phanes is just accurate to Phanes.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

They do, Etymologically Phánîs or Φάνης is derived from the ϕαίνω. Phanes according to mythology for a reason is a deity of light himself.

Φαίνων is literally derived from φαίνω.

 

[MSahla]

Φαίνων is literally derived from φαίνω.

You said "Fanis" derived from "Faino" now you said "Φαίνων" which is "Fainon" also derived from "Faino". Only Faino to Fainon is Make sense but not "Fanis"

Like wheres the source of it.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

You said "Fanis" derived from "Faino" now you said "Φαίνων" which is "Fainon" also derived from "Faino". Only Faino to Fainon is Make sense but not "Fanis"

Like wheres the source of it.

They both are derived from the Greek verb φαίνω, you are acting as if that is impossible lmao. Etymology exist for a reason, the study of words.


borrowed from Greek -phanēs "appearing," adjective derivative from the stem of phaínō, phaínein (active voice) "to bring to light, cause to appear," and phaínomai, phaínesthai (middle voice) "to become visible, come to light, appear" -merriam webster

The etymology of the name derives from the verb ϕαίνω which is defined:

bring to light, cause to appear, in physical sense, make known, reveal, disclose, come to light, appear [3].

Hence, Phánîs is he who reveals, the enlightening Aithír. -HellenicGods.

word-forming element meaning "having the appearance of," from Greek -phanes, from phainein "bring to light, cause to appear, show," phainesthai "to appear" (from PIE root *bha- (1) "to shine"). -etymonline

 

[Puppet43]

Both Phainon and Phanes are derived from the Greek verb φαίνω which means to shine.

Remind u that in some Mythology (cant renember which) Aether is the father of Caelus, so unless you wanna say Aether banged a white/gray hair woman is canon i won't trust u

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

Remind u that in some Mythology (cant renember which) Aether is the father of Caelus, so unless you wanna say Aether banged a white/gray hair woman is canon i won't trust u

suprised soyface !!!!!!!!!

 

[OmniScalator]

Wanderer processing 400 years of memory in around 70 seconds is around sub relativistic perception speed


And according to an item description raiden can attack as fast as she can perceive

So potentially we can get sub relativistic raiden combat speed and perception speed

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

"The Abyss manifests its power in a manner that is most devastating to the place in question. In Sumeru, it was forbidden knowledge. In Natlan, it was monstrous creatures." —Nahida voiceover, About Haborym.

 

[Voidnether]

I am like 50% sure phanes is going to be loli or shota, and I hate it

This is so ******* ass

 

[Voidnether]

Wanderer processing 400 years of memory in around 70 seconds is around sub relativistic perception speed

No, it's way higher
70 / (1.263 x 10^10s) = 5.54235946 × 10-9s (FTL)
This blog I made earlier explained it pretty well about those type of calc, the original calc which is the one I'm pretty sure you get the inspiration from is straight up wrong it's crazy how much of a downplay it is

The Eminence in Shadow — Cid's Perception Speed

vsbattles.fandom.com

1.263 x 10^10s is practically 400 years, then you just add the s after the 10^10 and paste it on chrome

 

[MSahla]

The "New Moon" has risen, and the wheel of fate begins to turn.

The world, no longer sheltered by "Eternity," marches toward its final breath.
Yet, from the ashes, the "New Moon" rises, its ascent spinning the wheel of fate anew.

i've been saying that the Fatui will destroy the False Sky and Columbina will replace the false sky to controls the Wheel of Fate or People's Fate or Constellation.
Because currently, the false sky is containing those constellations.

The heavens control human fate like a puppeteer controls a marionette. So, the inauspicious stars themselves do not have free will. – Citlali

But before they could even consider that, the little witch had something to ask: "Can fortune tellers read the skeins of fate?"
The fortune teller then explained the underlying principles. Put simply, it's something like this:
In our world, the stars are the heavenly strings by which humans are bound. But in other worlds, the subjects of astrological study are the solar ecliptic energies, the various lunar energies of the satellites, the will-energy of the celestial rulers of the planets, the scattered interference energy of distant stars, and the dark energy that suffuses the pitch-black cosmos. Of course, it's not like these things don't exert influence on our planet — they have merely been greatly weakened by a giant sky-shroud. As such, astrology on other worlds is far more abstract than that which is practiced in ours.
By the way, other planets refer to an actual celestial bodies as an "archon" and a theorized one as a "virtual." The planet the little witch was on was no exception.

 

[OmniScalator]

i've been saying that the Fatui will destroy the False Sky and Columbina will replace the false sky to controls the Wheel of Fate or People's Fate or Constellation.
Because currently, the false sky is containing those constellations.

Bro, it doesn't matter, because stars in fake sky are just projections of real stars behind fake sky

Fate won't change

No, it's way higher
70 / (1.263 x 10^10s) = 5.54235946 × 10-9s (FTL)
This blog I made earlier explained it pretty well about those type of calc, the original calc which is the one I'm pretty sure you get the inspiration from is straight up wrong it's crazy how much of a downplay it is

The Eminence in Shadow — Cid's Perception Speed

vsbattles.fandom.com

1.263 x 10^10s is practically 400 years, then you just add the s after the 10^10 and paste it on chrome

Ohhh, so it's even better, I didn't do any calculation before so didn't knew it would be this good

I thought of doing it by taking a ratio of perception speed of normal human and divide it by how fast wanderer percieved

 

[Furina003]

Wanderer processing 400 years of memory in around 70 seconds is around sub relativistic perception speed

This has been calculated by Legarde and got the mftl speed, but I don't know whether the calculation is right or wrong, and whether it can be categorized as perception speed?

 

[MSahla]

Bro, it doesn't matter, because stars in fake sky are just projections of real stars behind fake sky

Fate won't change

Who said it'll change? Its just the matter of who's controlling it.

 

[Furina003]

btw, Speaking of the false sky, we have a narrative that the false sky is infinite.

 

[Furina003]

hilichurl can got acausality type 2

fortune slip imaginarium theater

"It would appear that the hilichurls possess no concept of either the past or future, living only in the present.
They do not intentionally store food for survival, nor do they honor the memory of their deceased forebears."

 

[OmniScalator]

hilichurl can got acausality type 2

fortune slip imaginarium theater

No, it's just saying they live carefree without thinking about past or future

Acausality type 2 requires existence itself to be not present in past or future

 

[Furina003]

No, it's just saying they live carefree without thinking about past or future

Acausality type 2 requires existence itself to be not present in past or future

I think that's what hilichurls are like, because basically the past and the future no longer exist because of the curse of the shades. as I remember Dainslief explaining this.

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

No, it's just saying they live carefree without thinking about past or future

Acausality type 2 requires existence itself to be not present in past or future

i am sure 5.7 made it kinda clear hilichurls don't exist in the past lol.