Genshin 4A downgrade...

[Woomica]

The fact that they tried to use this as supporting evidence was really funny to me, but as others have said, this isn't eciste in Genshin lore/canon, it's basically money.

ong where i need to see that

 

[Dog3352]

bro, the It room is just a library in mondo, Meanwhile, the feat being discussed is the space contained in the books in the library that Wolfy looks after

The library is literally said to be "something that exists between reality and fiction", "you can only enter if you are invited" (which is even reminiscent of subspace), and instantly theorized by Traveler as "being another world", and even from to see clearly from the living room window that we are no longer in Mondstadt, that room is definitely not just a library room.

Of course, not to mention that the room was made by creation magic.

 

[Dog3352]

ong where i need to see that

In the 4-A update CRT itself, but it was quickly dismissed as an argument for exactly this fact.

 

[Furina003]

The library is literally said to be "something that exists between reality and fiction", "you can only enter if you are invited" (which is even reminiscent of subspace), and instantly theorized by Traveler as "being another world", and even from to see clearly from the living room window that we are no longer in Mondstadt, that room is definitely not just a library room.

that's what is meant by the space in the book. The imaginary theater is basically the mechanism in the book. while the room where the books are is just a secret room in the KoF headquarters.

 

[Dog3352]

that's what is meant by the space in the book. The imaginary theater is basically the mechanism in the book. while the room where the books are is just a secret room in the KoF headquarters.

It's not a secret room, the door is fully visible for anyone to see in the library, and it's clearly not just a normal room, have you even read what is said about the room?

It is created by a witch with creation magic;
It's impossible to get in there without being invited (what common room has that?);
It is described as "existing between reality and fiction";
It is instantly theorized by Traveler to be another world;
If you look at the door, it looks like the room is constantly going down (or up?);
The Traveler himself quickly realizes that they are not in Mondstadt (as evidenced by the appearance outside the window and not even Woofy knowing the location of that room).

 

[Furina003]

It's not a secret room, the door is fully visible for anyone to see in the library, and it's clearly not just a normal room, have you even read what is said about the room?

It is created by a witch with creation magic;
It's impossible to get in there without being invited (what common room has that?);
It is described as "existing between reality and fiction";
It is instantly theorized by Traveler to be another world;
If you look at the door, it looks like the room is constantly going down (or up?);
The Traveler himself quickly realizes that they are not in Mondstadt (as evidenced by the appearance outside the window and not even Woofy knowing the location of that room).

You just open Genshin, and try going to KoF headquarters, then go to that room.

and when you exit that room, you will also exit at Kof headquarters.

The room is indeed a room that has been contaminated with magic, but that doesn't mean the room has moved or turned into something unreal. the location remains in monstatdt, KoF headquarters. because this is just a normal room and it's real.

 

[Puppet43]

What does this have to do with 4-A in the slightest?

"Opened the universe" = Created the big bang 3A

 

[Dog3352]

You just open Genshin, and try going to KoF headquarters, then go to that room.

and when you exit that room, you will also exit at Kof headquarters.

The room is indeed a room that has been contaminated with magic, but that doesn't mean the room has moved or turned into something unreal. the location remains in monstatdt, KoF headquarters. because this is just a normal room and it's real.

Crossing the library door sends you to another reality/world (the room), and crossing the room door sends you back to the real world, simple as that, it's not difficult to understand taking into account everything said about the room, Everything makes this very clear, a door that leads to another reality/space/world isn't exactly outside of Genshin's reality.

And the room is not simply a room that is filled with magic, the room itself is created by magic.

 

[Furina003]

Crossing the library door sends you to another reality/world (the room), and crossing the room door sends you back to the real world, simple as that, it's not difficult to understand taking into account everything said about the room, Everything makes this very clear, a door that leads to another reality/space/world isn't exactly outside of Genshin's reality.

And the room is not simply a room that is filled with magic, the room itself is created by magic.

yeah, it's just a secret room in the KoF headquarters. Try giving me proof that the room isn't something real??

You are only referring to the description of the Imaginarium Theater, even though what Imaginarium Thater means is the space in the book.

Even in the quest when Imaginarium Theater was released, the traveler directly explained that this was the secret room that Lisa told about, which means the room really exists in KoF. this is very easy to understand

 

[Dog3352]

yeah, it's just a secret room in the KoF headquarters. Try giving me proof that the room isn't something real??

You are only referring to the description of the Imaginarium Theater, even though what Imaginarium Thater means is the space in the book.

Even in the quest when Imaginarium Theater was released, the traveler directly explained that this was the secret room that Lisa told about, which means the room really exists in KoF. this is very easy to understand

In addition to everything I said (which makes it more than clear that the room is another dimension), there is also the fact that the name of the room is literally "Lobby Theather", "Lobby" is literally a room, the name itself makes it clear that the room is the "lobby" of the Imaginarium Theater, which is clearly another dimension.

All the things I mentioned are talks about Lobby Theather, the description is the description of the map (sub-area) and not the book inside Lobby Theather.

And he also says/theorize instantly that he is no longer in Teyvat and that the room is another world, please, being described as a room and the entrance door being in real life does not prove that the room is just an ordinary room that exists in real life, anyone who sees the things I said about Lobby Theather will think that it is another world and the entrance is a door that is in a library, this is made so clear, you don't exactly have to be intelligent to realize this.

 

[DivinumAeterna]

yeah, it's just a secret room in the KoF headquarters. Try giving me proof that the room isn't something real??

You are only referring to the description of the Imaginarium Theater, even though what Imaginarium Thater means is the space in the book.

Even in the quest when Imaginarium Theater was released, the traveler directly explained that this was the secret room that Lisa told about, which means the room really exists in KoF. this is very easy to understand

Genshin scalers don't even play their own game

Yeah, I don't think a normal room under the KoF headquarters in the library could have a skylight with an inverted ceiling, nor an infinite elevator seemingly going up rather than down.

Sauce

 

[Furina003]

In addition to everything I said (which makes it more than clear that the room is another dimension), there is also the fact that the name of the room is literally "Lobby Theather", "Lobby" is literally a room, the name itself makes it clear that the room is the "lobby" of the Imaginarium Theater, which is clearly another dimension.

All the things I mentioned are talks about Lobby Theather, the description is the description of the map (sub-area) and not the book inside Lobby Theather.

And he also says/theorize instantly that he is no longer in Teyvat and that the room is another world, please, being described as a room and the entrance door being in real life does not prove that the room is just an ordinary room that exists in real life, anyone who sees the things I said about Lobby Theather will think that it is another world and the entrance is a door that is in a library, this is made so clear, you don't exactly have to be intelligent to realize this.

That's just Paimon's prejudice, like I said, the space is just contaminated by magic, that doesn't mean it makes the space unreal,

Lisa even knows about the existence of that room, which means that this room already exists in KoF, which is most likely the room that Alice uses to practice their magic.

because Alice has been living in Monstadt for a long time and actually knows the Kof members

 

[Furina003]

Genshin scalers don't even play their own game

Yeah, I don't think a normal room under the KoF headquarters in the library could have a skylight with an inverted ceiling, nor an infinite elevator seemingly going up rather than down.

Sauce

Genshin scalers don't even play their own game

Yeah, I don't think a normal room under the KoF headquarters in the library could have a skylight with an inverted ceiling, nor an infinite elevator seemingly going up rather than down.

Sauce

It's not a normal room, that doesn't mean it's not real, in fact it's in the library, and Lisa has known about it for a long time.

You should read my explanation again

 

[DivinumAeterna]

It's not a normal room, that doesn't mean it's not real, in fact it's in the library, and Lisa has known about it for a long time.

You should read my explanation again

Because the room can be accessed through a door in the library doesn't make it any more physically real, nor does Lisa's knowledge about it.

 

[Dog3352]

Genshin scalers don't even play their own game

Yeah, I don't think a normal room under the KoF headquarters in the library could have a skylight with an inverted ceiling, nor an infinite elevator seemingly going up rather than down.

Sauce

The room is entirely created by beuxa magic;
The room appears to be in an infinite descent when you enter it;
The Traveler and not even Woofy do not know the real location of the room, despite entering through the library door;
The room is instantly theorized by the Traveler as being another world and says that they are no longer in Mondstadt (this from someone experienced in traveling through worlds, spaces, etc.);
You can only enter that room if invited by someone.

That's right, the more normal room in Genshin be like:

The room is clearly another world, which there is no evidence of being real, in fact, the name of the room indicates that both the room (Lobby Theather) and the Imaginarium Theather are similar existences (like the difference that one does not enter the room through the book), being that both are part of the theater, both are created by magic, and the description says that "exist beetwen reality and fantasy".

 

[Furina003]

Because the room can be accessed through a door in the library doesn't make it any more physically real, nor does Lisa's knowledge about it.

That room is in the library, we can interact normally with that room, Lisa has known about that room for a long time and is indeed in Kof.

and you still think it's not real, without any clear evidence. I'm confused about what else to say

 

[DivinumAeterna]

That room is in the library, we can interact normally with that room, Lisa has known about that room for a long time and is indeed in Kof.

and you still think it's not real, without any clear evidence. I'm confused about what else to say

You don't need to say anything, it's clear you have no idea about most of the things you're talking about and missing the narrative intended by the writers as to what actually makes fantasy and fictional things 'real' to people. The IT and Simulanka are all entirely fictional pocket worlds that have no bearing on the physical world of Teyvat, but are still 'real' in the sense that Traveler and co can have real experiences and make memories in them, NOT real in the fact that it scales Archons to 4-A because it has a starry sky and some planets.

 

[Dog3352]

That room is in the library, we can interact normally with that room, Lisa has known about that room for a long time and is indeed in Kof.

and you still think it's not real, without any clear evidence. I'm confused about what else to say

I'm pretty sure it's you who needs to prove that the room exists in real-world reality and that it actually exists as an ordinary reality, since everything points to her being like the Imaginarium Theather.

The room is entirely created by beuxa magic;
The room appears to be in an infinite descent when you enter it;
The Traveler and not even Woofy do not know the real location of the room, despite entering through the library door;
The room is instantly theorized by the Traveler as being another world and says that they are no longer in Mondstadt (this from someone experienced in traveling through worlds, spaces, etc.);
You can only enter that room if invited by someone.

That's right, the more normal room in Genshin be like:

The room is clearly another world, which there is no evidence of being real, in fact, the name of the room indicates that both the room (Lobby Theather) and the Imaginarium Theather are similar existences (like the difference that one does not enter the room through the book), being that both are part of the theater, both are created by magic, and the description says that "exist beetwen reality and fantasy".

 

[Furina003]

I'm pretty sure it's you who needs to prove that the room exists in real-world reality and that it actually exists as an ordinary reality, since everything points to her being like the Imaginarium Theather.

I'm pretty sure it's you who needs to prove that the room exists in real-world reality and that it actually exists as an ordinary reality, since everything points to her being like the Imaginarium Theather.

A space that has magic doesn't mean the space isn't real, you have to really be able to prove that the space doesn't have anything physical.

Examples such as the space of consciousness where it is clear that it does not have physicality due to the of consciousness.

While the Imaginarium Theater is just an ordinary space that has been contaminated with magic, that doesn't mean that this space has no physicality and is not real.

 

[Furina003]

You don't need to say anything, it's clear you have no idea about most of the things you're talking about and missing the narrative intended by the writers as to what actually makes fantasy and fictional things 'real' to people. The IT and Simulanka are all entirely fictional pocket worlds that have no bearing on the physical world of Teyvat, but are still 'real' in the sense that Traveler and co can have real experiences and make memories in them, NOT real in the fact that it scales Archons to 4-A because it has a starry sky and some planets.

you can't even prove that space isn't real,

Space where there is magic doesn't mean it's not real.

Oh yeah, what we're talking about is pocket dimensions, so if it's separated from teyvat, yes, that's really what pocket dimensions are like.

 

[Dog3352]

A space that has magic doesn't mean the space isn't real, you have to really be able to prove that the space doesn't have anything physical.

Examples such as the space of consciousness where it is clear that it does not have physicality due to the of consciousness.

While the Imaginarium Theater is just an ordinary space that has been contaminated with magic, that doesn't mean that this space has no physicality and is not real.

Space itself is made of creation magic, the same thing as Simulnaka and IT, which do not exist in reality or as a true reality.

The space inside is physical, so much so that we interact with the things inside it, it's the same case as Simulnaka, but it's made within a consciousness, not a book, and it also doesn't scale to anything.

We are talking about Lobby Theather, not IT. He doesn't "have magic", he himself is made of magic, the reason this is evidence that he doesn't exist in reality and doesn't really exist is because Simulnaka and IT are also made of creation magic of the witches and clearly do not exist in reality and it doesn't really exist.

Of course, there's still the fact that IT and Lobby Theater are clearly the same thing (the same kind of existence) due to "both being the theater" (only one is the theater lobby/room, and the other is the theater theater/interior of the theater), both being created by the same witches' creation magic and both being able to resemble the statement of "existing between reality and fantasy".

 

[Weaver261]

I argued about how the belief of same value between toy medal and gold is the magic of imagination. According to this, Imaginarium Theatre itself is also just make believe. It is not real. It's real to only those who believe in it. Same with how toy medal can be valuable to those who believe in it. Yeah it's crystal clear that Imaginarium Theatre is just fiction world

About the cardboard in the performance venue...
Wolfy: That moment when you first step onto the stage, do you not feel anything different at all? Do you not feel the unique ambiance within the magic ring?
Wolfy: sigh... This is one thing even one such as I, the concierge, cannot help you with...
Wolfy: It is only when guests "believe" from the bottom of their hearts that it's all real that the doors to that special world open wide before them.
Wolfy: When that happens, dear guest, you will understand that performing is a game, but also a ceremony, and thus does it too possess the power of magic!

 

[DivinumAeterna]

I argued about how the belief of same value between toy medal and gold is the magic of imagination. According to this, Imaginarium Theatre itself is also just make believe. It is not real. It's real to only those who believe in it. Same with how toy medal can be valuable to those who believe in it. Yeah it's crystal clear that Imaginarium Theatre is just fiction world

This is literally one of the most common tropes in children's media. Idk how the supporters of this upgrade apparently all lack the basic media literacy to recognize this.

 

[GarrixianXD]

The size of the world might be in question if it really was within a painting, but I still disagree with downgrading the 4-A feat based on the reasons for alienating witch magic from Genshin's UES and claiming the world is only a "fictional world" inside the book. The main question to be discussed that actually questions the size of the realm, is whether the book or painting acts like a portal or not. And like I said before, the world cannot exist inside both the book and painting at the same time, if it is within that thing.

 

[Weaver261]

The size of the world might be in question if it really was within a painting, but I still disagree with downgrading the 4-A feat based on the reasons for alienating witch magic from Genshin's UES and claiming the world is only a "fictional world" inside the book. The main question to be discussed that actually questions the size of the realm, is whether the book or painting acts like a portal or not. And like I said before, the world cannot exist inside both the book and painting at the same time, if it is within that thing.

The game modes are not the same. But the same properties they share is being fictional inside book and painting. Imaginarium Theatre where starry sky appears is only in the book, not in the painting. Painting is a different gamemode called envisaged echoes.

 

[GarrixianXD]

The game modes are not the same. But the same properties they share is being fictional inside book and painting. Imaginarium Theatre where starry sky appears is only in the book, not in the painting. Painting is a different gamemode called envisaged echoes.

The Envisaged Echos is a game mode part of the Imaginarium Threatre. If that's the case then the Imaginarium Threatre can be accessed from both the book and the painting, which doesn't help but rather goes against the belief that the realm is only inside the object. Like I said before, the same realm cannot exist in two objects at once; just like the same spoon cannot exist in 2 cups at once.

 

[Dog3352]

The size of the world might be in question if it really was within a painting, but I still disagree with downgrading the 4-A feat based on the reasons for alienating witch magic from Genshin's UES and claiming the world is only a "fictional world" inside the book. The main question to be discussed that actually questions the size of the realm, is whether the book or painting acts like a portal or not. And like I said before, the world cannot exist inside both the book and painting at the same time, if it is within that thing.

The fact that you are still arguing about the world being inside paintings and books at the same time proves that you are not reading the CRT.

First: There are 3 different "worlds"/"realities" within the book, which are separated by the acts of the book (act 1 to 3 is a book, act 4 to 6 is another world, act 7 to 10 is another world ).

Second: All 3 worlds that exist in IT are found in the same/single book, the worlds are not found in most of one place, only in a single book.

Third: The worlds of Envisaged Echo are also different worlds from the ones you enter in the book, so your argument doesn't make sense

You don't really play your own game, right?

 

[Weaver261]

The Envisaged Echos is a game mode part of the Imaginarium Threatre. If that's the case then the Imaginarium Threatre can be accessed from both the book and the painting, which doesn't help but rather goes against the belief that the realm is only inside the object. Like I said before, the same realm cannot exist in two objects at once; just like the same spoon cannot exist in 2 cups at once.

Nope... Imaginarium Theater is a stage challenge game mode like abyss while Envisaged Echos is domain exploration game mode. They are different game mode and can be accessed by different object book and painting. It's pretty clear they are not the same world.
Imaginarium Theater stages happens only on a stage and background just changes according to the act level

 

[Furina003]

Space itself is made of creation magic, the same thing as Simulnaka and IT, which do not exist in reality or as a true reality.

The space inside is physical, so much so that we interact with the things inside it, it's the same case as Simulnaka, but it's made within a consciousness, not a book, and it also doesn't scale to anything.

We are talking about Lobby Theather, not IT. He doesn't "have magic", he himself is made of magic, the reason this is evidence that he doesn't exist in reality and doesn't really exist is because Simulnaka and IT are also made of creation magic. witches and clearly do not exist in reality or in truth.

I have explained this before, this world has been described as the real world, this world is indeed formed from magic but that does not mean this world is not real.

for example I can use magic, then I use magic to make a chair, is that chair not real? Meanwhile, the chair has proven its physical properties and I can sit on it. clearly this is a real chair.

Likewise with the simulanka case, M likes fantasy stories, so he wrote these stories into a book,

When Alice read the book, she liked it and she wanted to explore the book for real, so she asked M for permission to create a world based on the book.

From here alone we can understand that the world in the book is really real. because Alice wants to explore the story written by M in real life

The problem for those drawn to the world of Simulanka is that they were holding the book when Barbeloth's predetermined fate occurred.

and the problem of the imaginarium theater, the case is more or less the same, in the description it has been explained and I have given it before. It is explained that this was once a fantasy story and a wizard used his magic to create different lives. something different from a fantasy story is definitely a reality fantasy. therefore wolfy calls fantasy real. So the world in the book is real and physical.

Wolfy: So, it's quite right that things don't make sense. Madame Mage's magic is just like love — not something to try and make sense of, but something you just feel.

Wolfy also explained that the witch mother's magic was like love. not something that can be understood but something that can be feel

Something that can be feel must be something real, because "feel" is related to our five senses, while "understanding" is something related to thoughts, imagination and fantasy.

 

[Woomica]

the arguments here change like socks, i can swear we yesterday(or 2 days ago) argued abt if word "real fantasy" and stuff like that means than these spaces are real or not

 

[GarrixianXD]

the arguments here change like socks, i can swear we yesterday(or 2 days ago) argued abt if word "real fantasy" and stuff like that means than these spaces are real or not

250+ replies under 48 hours. Can't expect much. Anyways, coming back to this later.

 

[DivinumAeterna]

the arguments here change like socks, i can swear we yesterday(or 2 days ago) argued abt if word "real fantasy" and stuff like that means than these spaces are real or not

Because there are a lot of things to argue about and debunk, naturally, now that people pay attention to the flimsy nature of current genshin scaling on this site. Still, a controversial topic like this upgrade shouldn't even have gotten passed in the first place, just from looking at the fallout.

 

[Dog3352]

I have explained this before, this world has been described as the real world, this world is indeed formed from magic but that does not mean this world is not real.

He was never described as being real, just "existing between reality and fantasy", which I've already explained.

for example I can use magic, then I use magic to make a chair, is that chair not real? Meanwhile, the chair has proven its physical properties and I can sit on it. clearly this is a real chair.

It's not about having been created by magic, it's about having been created by the same magic of creation that created worlds that don't exist in reality or in truth, which is fair evidence for the room not actually existing, just like IT and Simulnaka, everything points to another world that the gateway to is in the real world, that other world was created by the same type of magic that creates worlds/realities/spaces that do not exist in reality and do not actually exist is fair evidence to say that the room doesn't really exist.

Likewise with the simulanka case, M likes fantasy stories, so he wrote these stories into a book,

Simulnaka has more than enough evidence to say that they do not exist in reality and do not actually exist, in addition to Simulnaka being literally inside the book, it was not simply made to be the same, reality is literally inside the book.

When Alice read the book, she liked it and she wanted to explore the book for real, so she asked M for permission to create a world based on the book.

She created a reality within the book itself, I have already shown evidence of this, the characters were literally pulled into the book.

Alice herself said that she felt a "magical power" (which in this case is the magic that exists within the world related to feelings and words) IN THE BOOK and ENTERED to check it out, making it obvious that she entered the book, and making clear one more since reality is inside the book.

Alice: Hm, let's start with your first question, then. I'm here because I sensed a great magic power emanating from the book just now, and I couldn't resist the urge to peek inside and check it out.
Navia: That must have been when we all gave Mini Durin our blessings, right?
Alice: Yes, exactly. In the world of fairytales, words and emotions often carry far more power than any spell.

From here alone we can understand that the world in the book is really real. because Alice wants to explore the story written by M in real life

Evidence of him "existing in reality"? I have already shown more than enough evidence to prove that he is not real, and the reality is within the book.

The problem for those drawn to the world of Simulanka is that they were holding the book when Barbeloth's predetermined fate occurred

They were pulled into a reality that exists inside a book, unless you prove that reality exists in the real world (for real) or at least that it exists outside the book, that doesn't prove anything.

and the problem of the imaginarium theater, the case is more or less the same, in the description it has been explained and I have given it before. It is explained that this was once a fantasy story and a wizard used his magic to create different lives. something different from a fantasy story is definitely a reality fantasy. therefore wolfy calls fantasy real. So the world in the book is real and physical.

And I proved that they don't exist, and unlike you, I put scans/evidence to prove my point.

Wolfy also explained that the witch mother's magic was like love. not something that can be understood but something that can be felt.

Something that can be felt must be something real, because "feeling" is related to our five senses, while "understanding" is something related to thoughts, imagination and fantasy.

This the last form me

I don't know if you realize, but Woofy is using "love" as an example, which is not something that a person feels with the five senses, love is a feeling, it is something abstract, you don't feel it with the five senses (like something that exists in reality).

 

[Berento_Magnifico]

Bro's trying his absolute hardest to downgrade Genshin Impact

 

[Giannysmag]

Bro's trying his absolute hardest to downgrade Genshin Impact

As he should

 

[Woomica]

As he should

maintaining de angenda is our priority

 

[Giannysmag]

maintaining de angenda is our priority

There is no one that hates the Genshin verse more than Genshin fans

 

[Weaver261]

Wolfy also explained that the witch mother's magic was like love. not something that can be understood but something that can be feel

Something that can be feel must be something real, because "feel" is related to our five senses, while "understanding" is something related to thoughts, imagination and fantasy.

We are not touching grass with this one. What do you mean my waifus aren't real 0w0

 

[Furina003]

He was never described as being real, just "existing between reality and fantasy", which I've already explained.

do you really only have that capital? even though what they mean is real fantasy. and I have already explained this, there is no need to repeat it

It's not about having been created by magic, it's about having been created by the same magic of creation that created worlds that don't exist in reality or in truth, which is fair evidence for the room not actually existing, just like IT and Simulnaka, everything points to another world that the gateway to is in the real world, that other world was created by the same type of magic that creates worlds/realities/spaces that do not exist in reality and do not actually exist is fair evidence to say that the room doesn't really exist.

Did you not play this event? it's clear we see a real world, alice also states they are real, even what from the simulanka world we can bring to the teyvat world, it's very funny if we say it's not something real.

Simulnaka has more than enough evidence to say that they do not exist in reality and do not actually exist, in addition to Simulnaka being literally inside the book, it was not simply made to be the same, reality is literally inside the book.

Simulanka is indeed in the book, and I never said he wasn't in the book, I have said it many times, we are talking about pocket dimensions, pocket dimensions are separate dimensions and have a relatively smaller size than the original universe. So, what are you concerned about here? This in no way proves that simulankas are not real. no, your statement doesn't prove anything

She created a reality within the book itself, I have already shown evidence of this, the characters were literally pulled into the book.

Alice herself said that she felt a "magical power" (which in this case is the magic that exists within the world related to feelings and words) IN THE BOOK and ENTERED to check it out, making it obvious that she entered the book, and making clear one more since reality is inside the book.

Evidence of him "existing in reality"? I have already shown more than enough evidence to prove that he is not real, and the reality is within the book.

Alice: If you've ever read any of M's stories, you'll know just how enchanting the worlds are that she writes about. So enchanting that I just had to step inside and explore it for real. Alice: So I got B involved, and with M's consent, created the world of Simulanka.

they are attracted to books, because the world is in books, so what? That's what normal pocket dimensions are like and Alice said that she would explore it for real, which means it is real

They were pulled into a reality that exists inside a book, unless you prove that reality exists in the real world (for real) or at least that it exists outside the book, that doesn't prove anything. And I proved that they don't exist, and unlike you, I put scans/evidence to prove my point.

You are just repeating your arguments, even though the feat is indeed based on pocket dimensions "Pocket realities, in this case, refers to realms that are spatially separate from other realms (including universes) and either are of less than universal size on the inside or appear as less than universe sized objects when observed from the outside."

I don't know if you realize, but Woofy is using "love" as an example, which is not something that a person feels with the five senses, love is a feeling, it is something abstract, you don't feel it with the five senses (like something that exists in reality).

ugh, you don't even understand the meaning of figurative language, Wolfy likens love because love can be felt, it's a very deep parable.
Love is something that can be felt because feelings are something real, while imagination and fantasy are something that is difficult to understand.
That's why Wolfy says it's not to be understood, but to be felt, because fantasy and imagination are difficult to understand. therefore it is declared to be a real fantasy.
because this was originally just a fantasy story made real using magic.

 

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do you really only have that capital? even though what they mean is real fantasy. and I have already explained this, there is no need to repeat it

Me too, the difference is that mine is complete with all my evidence.

Did you not play this event? it's clear we see a real world, alice also states they are real, even what from the simulanka world we can bring to the teyvat world, it's very funny if we say it's not something real.

You still show no evidence of this.

Simulanka is indeed in the book, and I never said he wasn't in the book, I have said it many times, we are talking about pocket dimensions, pocket dimensions are separate dimensions and have a relatively smaller size than the original universe. So, what are you concerned about here? This in no way proves that simulankas are not real. no, your statement doesn't prove anything

All my evidence in the OP proves it.

they are attracted to books, because the world is in books, so what? That's what normal pocket dimensions are like and Alice said that she would explore it for real, which means it is real

Seriously? Are you telling me, that the pocket dimension is real just because Alice says she wants to explore it for real? For God's sake, Simulnaka don't have to be real to explore it, just need to exist physically, even if it remains just fictional, you will still be exploring it for real, which is the case with Simulnaka, which I have proven with evidence.

You are just repeating your arguments, even though the feat is indeed based on pocket dimensions "Pocket realities, in this case, refers to realms that are spatially separate from other realms (including universes) and either are of less than universal size on the inside or appear as less than universe sized objects when observed from the outside."

Still no evidence that they exist in real life or actually exist.

ugh, you don't even understand the meaning of figurative language, Wolfy likens love because love can be felt, it's a very deep parable.
Love is something that can be felt because feelings are something real, while imagination and fantasy are something that is difficult to understand.
That's why Wolfy says it's not to be understood, but to be felt, because fantasy and imagination are difficult to understand. therefore it is declared to be a real fantasy.
because this was originally just a fantasy story made real using magic.

Love, even though it can be felt, is still something abstract, which cannot be felt with the 5 senses, my point continues, and this still easily intertwines with my interpretation in the OP.
I've already said my interpretation of this, and I've proven it with evidence/scans, I'm not going to continue arguing about something that you don't even provide evidence for.

Woofy's statement isn't even literal, but rather his way of explaining Alice's magic using love as a metaphor.

Wolfy: Put on a spectacular show for your audience, and you will receive a key that opens the door to the World Within the Painting...
Paimon: Whoa, hold up! First storybooks, now a world inside a painting? This place is making less and less sense all the time...
Wolfy: I know what you mean! But as I read in a storybook once, if a magician reveals all their tricks to the audience, it robs them of the surprise.
Wolfy: So, it's quite right that things don't make sense. Madame Mage's magic is just like love — not something to try and make sense of, but something you just feel.

Love is used as a metaphor, Woofy compares Alice's magic to love, because Alice's magic is not to be "understood" (make sense to you), but only "felt", in the sense of just living/experience that magic, not in a literal sense where both are literally the same.