Genshin 4A downgrade...

[StrymULTRA]

Technically Garri is no longer staff, meaning only 1 disagrees.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Agree: @Smashtwig, @Setsuna_tenma, @Puppet43, @Giannysmag, @TWILIGHT-OP, @Woomica, @JohnHendrix212, @DivinumAeterna, @Voidnether, @Weaver261, @GrandAdmiralCosmicBrains, @Da3ggman, @Confluctor, @Nero1215, @EastofEden07, @Shey, @InfinityTurtleHD, @Maverick_Zero_X, @Rayfire, @AyOgUyS , @Mr. Bambu @Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe @Hiryu-Z

Disagree: @Furina003, @GarrixianXD, @Saqphire, @DarkDragonMedeus, @Tyri456, @Valxxroyz, @Breakdown, @Sahlwrld, @Berento_Magnifico 6

About 23 Agrees to 9(Garrixian no longer counts right?)Disagrees

I should have clarified evaluation staff vites, rather than all votes.

The voting is 2-1, as myself and Mav agree and DDM disagrees. To apply this, you'll need either DDM to change his vote (or possibly nullify it), or get at least another admin to agree.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

I should have clarified evaluation staff vites, rather than all votes.

The voting is 2-1, as myself and Mav agree and DDM disagrees. To apply this, you'll need either DDM to change his vote (or possibly nullify it), or get at least another admin to agree.

I think GarrixianXD's points make more sense, so I disagree with the downgrade.

its 2-2, ddm and elizhaa should re evaluate this tbh

 

[StrymULTRA]

I should have clarified evaluation staff vites, rather than all votes.

The voting is 2-1, as myself and Mav agree and DDM disagrees. To apply this, you'll need either DDM to change his vote (or possibly nullify it), or get at least another admin to agree.

I think the best action is to make a new thread as I said above, there are 13 whole pages of arguings, I don't think anyone who's sane would read all of dat.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

its 2-2, ddm and elizhaa should re evaluate this tbh

They missed Elizhaa, then? Then, yes, it would require more staff, one way or the other.

I think the best action is to make a new thread as I said above, there are 13 whole pages of arguings, I don't think anyone who's sane would read all of dat.

It does kinda suck, but it would also suck to remake the thread, only for it to become bogged down in the exact same way. This can be closed if the OP wants to attempt again, of course, although we have rules regarding the wait time between making threads on the same topic.

 

[StrymULTRA]

It does kinda suck, but it would also suck to remake the thread, only for it to become bogged down in the exact same way. This can be closed if the OP wants to attempt again, of course, although we have rules regarding the wait time between making threads on the same topic.

Pretty sure that applies only when a thread is rejected, not continuing one that is basically locked.

I saw that being done multiple times (I did that myself as well few times and no one said anything).

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Pretty sure that applies only when a thread is rejected, not continuing one that is basically locked.

I saw that being done multiple times (I did that myself as well few times and no one said anything).

Are you proposing continuing the thread or making a new one with new votes and all?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Are you proposing continuing the thread or making a new one with new votes and all?

I am proposing continuing the thread in a new one with all the old votes and a summary of all arguments for downgrade and counters against it.

It's not something unheard of, and I am sure it'll get way more traction than just hoping someone has the patience of going through 13 pages.

 

[Giannysmag]

I am proposing continuing the thread in a new one with all the old votes and a summary of all arguments for downgrade and counters against it.

It's not something unheard of, and I am sure it'll get way more traction than just hoping someone has the patience of going through 13 pages.

That honestly sounds like a good idea

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I am proposing continuing the thread in a new one with all the old votes and a summary of all arguments for downgrade and counters against it.

It's not something unheard of, and I am sure it'll get way more traction than just hoping someone has the patience of going through 13 pages.

I don't like it, because it seems to me quite likely to lose some of those currently here (staff or otherwise) who may be in a position to contribute, but. I am also in a crotchety mood, and one feels as though my complaint may also be trivial, given the state of the thread. By the letter of the law such a thread would be against the rules but I'm inclined to grant an exception if you want. However. A summary must be either written by the person who originally typed a given argument, or their posts must be linked to directly- it would not do to undercut them by making a new thread without their arguments as they presented them.

 

[Dog3352]

If it is for people who have already voted to read again, they would only need to read the last 2-3 pages, it is not really necessary to read the 13.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

bump

 

[PedjaTarzan]

bump

 

[JohnHendrix212]

Is it so hard to find one more mod?

 

[Giannysmag]

Is it so hard to find one more mod?

Yes

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

bump

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Basically 4-A has 2 chainscalings.

Later he denies the challenge suggesting making music and not war, to resolve conflicts trough song, which suggests that Venti refused the challenge and there wasnt a fight therefore theres no reason for Venti (and every other Archon) to scale to Witches.
2. being this


The text shown doesnt talk about Narwhal swallowing stars, but rather Stars Dying over time, which litteraly happens in real life too, and poet talking about resemblance of the galaxy just talks about countless bioluminescent planktons in the sky, so neither that proves 4-A feat being legitimate.

The feats present arent even consistent with the lore, as Witches have no combat feats shown, nor do they made Imaginarum Theather with Elemental Energy the main part of UES, but "Magic" that we dont even know what it is.
And the so called Narwhal feats are just poets full of flowery langauge used to describe him.
Both of these scalings apply to characters being 4-A and both are wrong and should be removed.

I suppose this is reasonable.

 

[StrymULTRA]

And that makes 3-1 for the downgrade.

 

[Dog3352]

Technically accepted, I guess?

Unfortunately, I can't change the Genshin scale on the profile, since I'll be busy, besides, I don't think they would accept someone who uses a translator to write modifying the profiles, if someone isn't going to modify the tiers first, I'll talk about it when I'm not busy.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Technically accepted, I guess?

Unfortunately, I can't change the Genshin scale on the profile, since I'll be busy, besides, I don't think they would accept someone who uses a translator to write modifying the profiles, if someone isn't going to modify the tiers first, I'll talk about it when I'm not busy.

given the size of the thread id wait grace time which is like 24H?

 

[StrymULTRA]

given the size of the thread id wait grace time which is like 24H?

No. You can apply it from 48 hours after its creation after enough approval.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

No. You can apply it from 48 hours after its creation after enough approval.

that means i can do it right now?

 

[StrymULTRA]

that means i can do it right now?

yep

 

[Weaver261]

4-A will be removed from entirety of Genshin or only some profiles?

 

[JohnHendrix212]

4-A will be removed from entirety of Genshin or only some profiles?

4-A will be nuked entirely, as far as I understand.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

4-A will be removed from entirety of Genshin or only some profiles?

Entirely, 3 mods agreed with removal of Imaginarum Theather and 2 for Whale scaling which is enough for both to be gone. This thread can FINALLY be closed

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Good bye 4-A