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General Fire Emblem Upgrades
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I don't see why the mindhax should also be removed from the Darksphere, given that it's the Darksphere that was stated to mindhax, but also, should the "Dark spirits" be considered a form of Soul Manipulation as well?
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Im fine with Mind manipulation for the Darksphere, its stated to possess the mind of the owner and twist it.JustSomeWeirdo said:
Gharnef should have:
Barrier Creation: Imhullu.
Mind manipulation and Memory manipulation: He has feats of his own: Tiki, eremiya and via Darksphere
Empathic manipulation: via Darksphere
Resistance to Soul manipulation: his soul is in the darksphere, therefore, no soul inhabits his body. This is lost after Shadow dragon, tho, since his resurrection was interrumpted. However, he'd have noncorporeality as a specter.
Resistance to Empathic manipulation: he is already twisted and thus unaffected by the Darksphere anymore.
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Yea, that seems fine
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Yea, Gharnef is open
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Yeah, now would wasn't suggesting Mind Manipulation to be removed; especially since he did legit mind control Tiki and Brainwashed King Hardin. We were just saying that Imhullu being Mind Manipulation exclusively and that being were the whole being "immune to all in game attacks save Starlight" comes just from Mind Manipulation is headcanon.
It's a number of things, and the Nigh-Invulnerability part is more so a magic barrier rather than assumed mind hax stopping his opponent. And the abilities Pachi mentioned are legit.
I should also asked, why does Grangel have an "At least" rating? He's a relatively early game boss compared to Validar and Walhart. IMO, I don't think he really needs an at least next to his tier.
It's a number of things, and the Nigh-Invulnerability part is more so a magic barrier rather than assumed mind hax stopping his opponent. And the abilities Pachi mentioned are legit.
I should also asked, why does Grangel have an "At least" rating? He's a relatively early game boss compared to Validar and Walhart. IMO, I don't think he really needs an at least next to his tier.
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Well, I must say that the old Mind manip via Imhullu came from a statement about the Darksphere
Shouldn't he still have it if we're giving Gharnef the Darksphere?
Shouldn't he still have it if we're giving Gharnef the Darksphere?
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So is there anything else we need to do here?
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Yeah, I'll do it
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Alright, I'll go do that now
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Well, bump, I guess
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Um, if it's okay i'd like to ask a question about the Hoshidan/Nohrian Royals.
So like, shouldn't their Dragon Vein powers be listed as well? I mean, sure, they're required to stand on specific locations, but imo that should be listed as a weakness rather than a reason we shouldn't mention them at all.
So like, shouldn't their Dragon Vein powers be listed as well? I mean, sure, they're required to stand on specific locations, but imo that should be listed as a weakness rather than a reason we shouldn't mention them at all.
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Yeah, they should have it
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They should also have magic, I've been meaning to add weapon abilities to profiles for a while (Sleep sword when)
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DLC only owo
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Alright, thanks.JustSomeWeirdo said:
I'll get to it when i can.
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Hey um, shouldn't "Can survive without a soul" be changed to "Immunity towards Soul Manipulation (Does not need a soul to live)"?
FYI: i'll change it myself if needed, but i wanted to ask first before going ahead and changing it.
In the event that it should be changed, which games in the series need changing?
FYI: i'll change it myself if needed, but i wanted to ask first before going ahead and changing it.
In the event that it should be changed, which games in the series need changing?
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It isn't an immunity because Soul Manipulation should still work, for example, Duma and Jedah taking souls in order to create Witches, or Anankos removing his own soul
Or going outside of the main timeline, Fomortiis having his soul removed
Or going outside of the main timeline, Fomortiis having his soul removed
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I can see your point.
Resistance, then?
Resistance, then?
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I don't think it should count for a Resistance either, as we didn't really see anyone actually resist any soul manipulation (Heck, it's implied that Sonya accidentally turned herself into a Witch after SoV)
Although, if we were to go by Specters in SoV, the most that can really happen is that souls would have the same Durability
Although, if we were to go by Specters in SoV, the most that can really happen is that souls would have the same Durability
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Okay, nevermind then.
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