Garou vs Raiden

[That_moron2]

Yes this. Garou is in his 6-A key, and Raiden is in his last key. Speed is equal.

Garou:

Raiden:


Incon:

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Yes this. Garou is in his 6-A key, and Raiden is in his last key. Speed is equal.

Garou:

Raiden:


Incon:

6-A as In 3rd key?

Also Garou seems to be a better fighter and the pressure points might be a problem but considering raidens a cyborg that seems moot.

though Garou does have fear inducement, durability negation and his reactive evolution.

this depends on whether raiden can kill Garou before Garou becomes stronger, faster, and higher lifting strength.

edit:

which is possible through the HF blade

but I’m not knowledgeable in either verse so I’m going to wait a bit

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Raiden stomps. Garou has no way to get around the 10x speed amp and Dura neg.

Especially since Raiden often opens with blade mode.

 

[Unknownnah]

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Raiden 100% should have reactive evolution as well but yall aint ready for that conversation

 

[Baken384]

Speed is equal.

get that shit out of here

 

[Unknownnah]

6-A as In 3rd key?

Also Garou seems to be a better fighter and the pressure points might be a problem but considering raidens a cyborg that seems moot.

though Garou does have fear inducement, durability negation and his reactive evolution.

this depends on whether raiden can kill Garou before Garou becomes stronger, faster, and higher lifting strength.

edit:

which is possible through the HF blade

but I’m not knowledgeable in either verse so I’m going to wait a bit

Pressure points kinda don't matter considering Garou touching Raiden is probably atomizing him

 

[Chariot190]

Also Garou seems to be a better fighter and the pressure points might be a problem but considering raidens a cyborg that seems moot.

Raiden is the better fighter by virtue of being written by people who actually know how to ******* fight and not just fancy superficial anime "skill"

 

[That_moron2]

Raiden stomps. Garou has no way to get around the 10x speed amp and Dura neg.

Especially since Raiden often opens with blade mode.

Garou's better range.

 

[Baken384]

unequal the speed then we can talk

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Garou's better range.

Raiden can literally just move out of the way. And Garou often goes for close combat. Not only that, but the HR blade can even cut from a distance as bullshit as it sounds.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

unequal the speed then we can talk

Then Garou stomps. This is a stomp match eitherway.

No way to make this fair.

 

[Baken384]

Then Garou stomps. This is a stomp match eitherway.

No way to make this fair.

as expected from the goat garou (peak garou was before he got cosmic wank mode)

 

[Chariot190]

Garou's better range.

Raiden can clear hundreds of meters with a casual leap in a weaker state. In RM his strength is amplified and is also 10x faster, he's gonna be up Garou's ass before he can blink.

as expected from the goat garou (peak garou was before he got cosmic wank mode)

Not with the funny meme calc

 

[Unknownnah]

Garou's better range.

 

[Unknownnah]

as expected from the goat garou (peak garou was before he got cosmic wank mode)

Raptor...

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Raiden is the better fighter by virtue of being written by people who actually know how to ******* fight and not just fancy superficial anime "skill"

But they’re both made in japan though.

 

[Chariot190]

But they’re both made in japan though.

Yeah, except one has military weapon advisors, swat instructors, and so on actually in charge of detailing and supervising fighting and technique accuracy. Snake's mocap actor is even ex-military and is the aforementioned swat instructor.
MGS skill is actual irl tangible skill and not "wow he did cool anime move" skill. It's actually quantifiable.

 

[Unknownnah]

Put Garou against The Sorrow

 

[That_moron2]

Yeah, except one has military weapon advisors, swat instructors, and so on actually in charge of detailing and supervising fighting and technique accuracy. Snake's mocap actor is even ex-military and is the aforementioned swat instructor.
MGS skill is actual irl tangible skill and not "wow he did cool anime move" skill. It's actually quantifiable.

I cannot describe who invalid of an argument this is.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Not like skill matters anyway when Raiden just turns Garou into sashimi.

 

[Chariot190]

I cannot describe who invalid of an argument this is.

You also can't describe Garou's skill either because it's just lmao anime

 

[Comiphorous]

Raiden wins on the virtue of being a more interesting character

 

[That_moron2]

You also can't describe Garou's skill either because it's just lmao anime

You are arguing that fiction is invalid because its fictional, on a site for debating about fictional characters.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Raiden wins by virtue of being sexier

 

[Comiphorous]

Raiden wins by virtue of being sexier

infinitely superior ass.

 

[Unknownnah]

Raiden wins by virtue of being sexier

 

[Chariot190]

You are arguing that fiction is invalid because its fictional, on a site for debating about fictional characters.

I'm arguing (i actually wasnt arguing i was shitposting but ok that simply saying someone is skilled and having them do cool anime move, while it would put them above a normal human by sheer virtue of most anime stuff simply not being feasibly possible to perform (like ive never seen someone do a 50 flip backflip ngl), that when it comes to verses or character's who's skills are explained extensively, is demonstrably and tangibly quantifiably skillful and not just fancy anime move with name, and is actually stuff that is proven functional with explicit hurdles to perform beyond just saying "hey he skilled" and expecting you to believe it, are two very, very, different things. Not to say Garou isn't skilled, but a lot of his stuff is just cool anime moves that you're told is skill but really ain't and is lowkey supernatural hax or powers instead of actual martial prowess (he does have that tho) it's why musashi cutting space via skill aint skill, it's hax

Same reason why someone like Goku's skill in Z is lowkey ass when compared to how he fights in class DB, in Z it's just fancy anime stuff or fisticuffs while in classic he actually did some cool martial techniques. If they weren't literally the same character I'd say og Goku > Z Goku in skill based on actual feats.
same with MGS4 Raiden > MGR Raiden, because all he does in MGR is fancy twirls instead of actual skilled shit
also this was a joke, you're taking it to seriously brother, im aware garou lowkey a skilled god

Voting Raiden based on his confirmed thicc and juicy gelatinous ass tho (MGS4 Artbook Yoko statement).

 

[Comiphorous]

I'm arguing (i actually wasnt arguing i was shitposting but ok that simply saying someone is skilled and having them do cool anime move, while it would put them above a normal human by sheer virtue of most anime stuff simply not being feasibly possible to perform (like ive never seen someone do a 50 flip backflip ngl), that when it comes to verses or character's who's skills are explained extensively, is demonstrably and tangibly quantifiably skillful and not just fancy anime move with name, and is actually stuff that is proven functional with explicit hurdles to perform beyond just saying "hey he skilled" and expecting you to believe it, are two very, very, different things. Not to say Garou isn't skilled, but a lot of his stuff is just cool anime moves that you're told is skill but really ain't and is lowkey supernatural hax or powers instead of actual martial prowess (he does have that tho) it's why musashi cutting space via skill aint skill, it's hax

Same reason why someone like Goku's skill in Z is lowkey ass when compared to how he fights in class DB, in Z it's just fancy anime stuff or fisticuffs while in classic he actually did some cool martial techniques. If they weren't literally the same character I'd say og Goku > Z Goku in skill based on actual feats.
same with MGS4 Raiden > MGR Raiden, because all he does in MGR is fancy twirls instead of actual skilled shit
also this was a joke, you're taking it to seriously brother, im aware garou lowkey a skilled god

Voting Raiden based on his confirmed thicc and juicy gelatinous ass tho (MGS4 Artbook Yoko statement).

let this man cook.

 

[That_moron2]

I'm arguing (i actually wasnt arguing i was shitposting but ok that simply saying someone is skilled and having them do cool anime move, while it would put them above a normal human by sheer virtue of most anime stuff simply not being feasibly possible to perform (like ive never seen someone do a 50 flip backflip ngl), that when it comes to verses or character's who's skills are explained extensively, is demonstrably and tangibly quantifiably skillful and not just fancy anime move with name, and is actually stuff that is proven functional with explicit hurdles to perform beyond just saying "hey he skilled" and expecting you to believe it, are two very, very, different things. Not to say Garou isn't skilled, but a lot of his stuff is just cool anime moves that you're told is skill but really ain't and is lowkey supernatural hax or powers instead of actual martial prowess (he does have that tho) it's why musashi cutting space via skill aint skill, it's hax

Same reason why someone like Goku's skill in Z is lowkey ass when compared to how he fights in class DB, in Z it's just fancy anime stuff or fisticuffs while in classic he actually did some cool martial techniques. If they weren't literally the same character I'd say og Goku > Z Goku in skill based on actual feats.
same with MGS4 Raiden > MGR Raiden, because all he does in MGR is fancy twirls instead of actual skilled shit
also this was a joke, you're taking it to seriously brother, im aware garou lowkey a skilled god

Voting Raiden based on his confirmed thicc and juicy gelatinous ass tho (MGS4 Artbook Yoko statement).

Honestly Based.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Raiden wins by virtue of being sexier

Nah their both ugly

 

[Unknownnah]

Nah their both ugly

He's way sexier than Suisei unfortunately

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

He's way sexier than Suisei unfortunately

Fate characters are definitely sexier than raiden though.

 

[Unknownnah]

Fate characters are definitely sexier than raiden though.

The chad cyborg ninja is infinitely superior sadly

 

[That_moron2]

Can someone close this because people are refusing to take it seriously?

 

[Chariot190]

Can someone close this because people are refusing to take it seriously?

You got the serious answer, RM+HF ez

 

[That_moron2]

You got the serious answer, RM+HF ez

Counted.

 

[Unknownnah]

Blade Mode moment FRA Ig

 

[Epiccheev]

Wouldn't the 10x speed amp be restricted in speed equal since Raiden peaks at relativistic while post-Darkshine Garou peaks at 6-A and FTL?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Wouldn't the 10x speed amp be restricted in speed equal since Raiden peaks at relativistic while post-Darkshine Garou peaks at 6-A and FTL?

No? I don't see why it would.

And speed equalized has the faster character restricted to the slower character's base speed