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Fine, then. It still works on Garou.
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Garou vs Ben
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Okay, just saying, there was a Dragon level threat who froze people, notably his best was Smile Man, Sad Man and Angry Man, he did the same thing to Saitama but failed.
As a Above Dragon Level threat Garou should be able to resist said person's power, it should be noted, all of the Men (Smile etc.) where fine afterwards.
As a Above Dragon Level threat Garou should be able to resist said person's power, it should be noted, all of the Men (Smile etc.) where fine afterwards.
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Does Garou have any way on killing or incapacitating Ben in some way? Since this is Omniverse Ben, this Ben has a fail safe that will alert whenever it senses that Ben in Danger and then turn him into an alien in order to survive. If Garou can't bypass that, I recommend changing this Ben to Alien Force or Ultimate Alien Ben.
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>Since this is Omniverse Ben, this Ben has a fail safe that will alert whenever it senses that Ben in Danger and then turn him into an alien in order to survive.
Doesnt matter, he's maxed Out at 7-A.
> I don't see resistance to possession
Garou has a Heroic spirit comparable to Metal Bat, so he'd be able do resist via force of will.
>Ben also has Goop and Swampfire who have Mid-High and Low-High Regen. Can Garou even bypass that?
Garou will simply keep fighting until the Omnitrix runs out and he can one shot Ben.
Doesnt matter, he's maxed Out at 7-A.
> I don't see resistance to possession
Garou has a Heroic spirit comparable to Metal Bat, so he'd be able do resist via force of will.
>Ben also has Goop and Swampfire who have Mid-High and Low-High Regen. Can Garou even bypass that?
Garou will simply keep fighting until the Omnitrix runs out and he can one shot Ben.
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Master Control: "A function that is only granted by Azmuth to users who have used the Omnitrix for a sufficiently long amount of time (or, in the case of Ken Tennyson, forcibly modified the device), it allows the user to switch between any alien recorded in the Omnitrix with a thought and disables the time out function, allowing them to remain transformed indefinitely."Udlmaster said:
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Okay ehhh.... i will not Bump again.MrLuk2000 said:
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Now that Ben doesn't have MC, he can spam 9-10 aliens before running out of time. What's the AP? If the AP gap isn't that much, Garou can just adapt and just wait it out until Ben runs out of time, but then again, Ben has the fail safe which will protect Ben and transform Ben into an alien to survive regardless.
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Ben will start with something like DH and get beat in cqc. Seeing all of his brute force aliens go down, he will just switch it up with guys like Snare-Oh, Upgrade, Ghostfreak, Big Chill, Ampfibian etc who are much harder to put down due to their intang or regen and can just possess or freeze solid if need be.
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Okay, so I'm no expert on Garou, but I'm just gonna give my own 2 cents for now.
Since Ben is starting off as Terraspin, he would normally do his fan attack and try and create some distance and launch Garou into a wall. Garou can adapt to it and punches Terraspin into a wall. Ben transforms into Diamondhead or Four Arms and decides to meet Garou head on.
I don't think any of Ben's heavy hitters can do much as Garou has Martial Arts in his page. Ben is outclassed here. Seeing how he is outmatched, Ben will most likely turn into Spider-Monkey (his best hand to hand fighter) and do his best to out maneuver Garou and then later go Ultimate and decide to overpower him. The question is if Garou can break through Ultimate Spidermonkey's web which is strong enough to hold Vilgax.
I'm not sure how Garou's passive Fear will do as I have no knowledge. Maybe he can have Ben scared and have him lose the fight?
At the same time I don't see Non-Physical Interaction anywhere on his page. Ben could turn into Ghostfreak or Big Chill and go intangible and either posses him or freeze his heart from the inside out. Whether they resist the passive fear is debatable as they are ghosts themselves, but I rather not waste my time on this topic.
If Ben realizes that neither is working, he can go Goop or Swampfire and just sit there and absorb/eat Garou's attacks as I highly doubt he can bypass Low-High regen let alone Mid-High.
My final verdict is Incon for now as they more or less can counter each other, but I might side with Ben here as he can simply outlast Garou and just sit there as Goop or Swampfire, have him tire out before going Humungousaur and stepping on him.
Since Ben is starting off as Terraspin, he would normally do his fan attack and try and create some distance and launch Garou into a wall. Garou can adapt to it and punches Terraspin into a wall. Ben transforms into Diamondhead or Four Arms and decides to meet Garou head on.
I don't think any of Ben's heavy hitters can do much as Garou has Martial Arts in his page. Ben is outclassed here. Seeing how he is outmatched, Ben will most likely turn into Spider-Monkey (his best hand to hand fighter) and do his best to out maneuver Garou and then later go Ultimate and decide to overpower him. The question is if Garou can break through Ultimate Spidermonkey's web which is strong enough to hold Vilgax.
I'm not sure how Garou's passive Fear will do as I have no knowledge. Maybe he can have Ben scared and have him lose the fight?
At the same time I don't see Non-Physical Interaction anywhere on his page. Ben could turn into Ghostfreak or Big Chill and go intangible and either posses him or freeze his heart from the inside out. Whether they resist the passive fear is debatable as they are ghosts themselves, but I rather not waste my time on this topic.
If Ben realizes that neither is working, he can go Goop or Swampfire and just sit there and absorb/eat Garou's attacks as I highly doubt he can bypass Low-High regen let alone Mid-High.
My final verdict is Incon for now as they more or less can counter each other, but I might side with Ben here as he can simply outlast Garou and just sit there as Goop or Swampfire, have him tire out before going Humungousaur and stepping on him.
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only 7 A ultimater spidermonkey is higher (yeah not mentioned how high but still higher) so by that logic utlmate echo echo and his sonic doom should be allowed.MrLuk2000 said:
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that's wrong (just my opinion)Spinoirr said:
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>I don't think any of Ben's heavy hitters can do much as Garou has Martial Arts in his page. Ben is outclassed here. Seeing how he is outmatched, Ben will most likely turn into Spider-Monkey (his best hand to hand fighter) and do his best to out maneuver Garou
This is very unlikely to work, and Water flowing Rock smashing Fist is only countered by itself (Bang vs Garou) or by incredibly unconventional attack strategies with greater power and speed (Garou vs Watch Dog Man), and these where considered martial arts and where able to be copied by Garou and was used against even Genos, unaffectively due to Genos being incredibly powerful and versatile.
>If Ben realizes that neither is working, he can go Goop or Swampfire and just sit there and absorb/eat Garou's attacks as I highly doubt he can bypass Low-High regen let alone Mid-High.
Garou can fight for longer than Ben and can beat him while he's worn out.
Garou will keep fighting getting stronger and stronger endlessly of needs be until he brings Ben into the range where his AP can bypass Regen, as Garou has Fighting Spirit of Metal Bat.
This is very unlikely to work, and Water flowing Rock smashing Fist is only countered by itself (Bang vs Garou) or by incredibly unconventional attack strategies with greater power and speed (Garou vs Watch Dog Man), and these where considered martial arts and where able to be copied by Garou and was used against even Genos, unaffectively due to Genos being incredibly powerful and versatile.
>If Ben realizes that neither is working, he can go Goop or Swampfire and just sit there and absorb/eat Garou's attacks as I highly doubt he can bypass Low-High regen let alone Mid-High.
Garou can fight for longer than Ben and can beat him while he's worn out.
Garou will keep fighting getting stronger and stronger endlessly of needs be until he brings Ben into the range where his AP can bypass Regen, as Garou has Fighting Spirit of Metal Bat.
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