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If we say AP is comparable, then Garou takes it. Baki has a few advantages that Garou can't copy, but most of his advantages will be copied after a couple uses. One of those advantages, demon back, is something Baki would hesitate to use due to his personality (maybe, Garou is an evil-looking monster at this point). Garou however has type 2 immortality, quick low-mid regen, massively superior reactive evolution that comes with a constant statistics amp, seemingly random resistance development and a high chance of turning into an above dragon beast with the monster calamity god slayer fist in tow.It isn't allowed on here, would be a headcanon multiplier. I think we can just assume that he's near Baki's level, though.
I guess message them?Vote counted, though I wish more Baki supporters would show up (
Yall I love these take but rn the match needs to be put on hold lolWould these revisions change Baki's AP?
And he can’t end it quickly.Y’all the reason your vote of for Garou doesn’t really work Considering that the Fight has it go for a longer for Garou you really do big stuff, compared to Baki who just ends fight quickly. The votes got Garou need to be reset
Don’t have a vote currently, but it’s worth noting that these are the win conditions as I understand them:
Garou) His regen keeps him fighting, his RE guarantees his win as the fight goes on, and his higher LS stop a pin/restrain
Baki) Baki could very easily win the first couple of moves, which is his only chance. Baki has tons of moves he can use to blitze people comparable to himself in speed like the Kiai/Hand Pocket (the technique allows his strike to achieve maximum acceleration from the start), the Cockroach Tackle Jab combo (another 0 acceleration move combined with the fastest strike in modern combat), and the 0.5 Seconds Unconscious (a move that allows his brain to bypass a phase in which a brain needs to process things you perceive, allowing Baki to intercept an attack after someone has decided to use it, but before they can actually do it). Even more so, within his last 3 fights, the only fights this key has, he’s started with the CTJ combo and uses 0.5 if necessary. The key to why any of this is important lies in the fact that Baki has the precision to KO Pickle, a caveman that has a physiology that prevents concussions and a caveman that is physically strong enough to completely dominate Baki, by tapping him on the chin. With that level of precision, Baki would only need one successful hit to KO Garou.
TL;DR - Baki most likely wins early, or dies horribly later on. I don’t have a vote yet
Baki fought people with IR and Percog before that are superior to Garous. Besides his RE Garou bring nothing new to the table for Baki. And again Baki has multiple speed and stats amps attacks with 0.5 SU to always get his attacks in first and the fact he can KO Garou when ever it can effect them.Unless he starts with those, I don’t see how it’ll affect them. Coupled with Garou’s precog + IR, I cannot see it getting to him effectively.
Like?Baki fought people with IR and Percog before that are superior to Garous.
Such as? Has anyone possesses RE like that?Besides his RE Garou bring nothing new to the table for Baki.
Stat amps get dealt with WSRSF. 0.5 SU doesn’t matter since Garou can fight in his sleep. Garou also gets faster and stronger so, not really a good point. And that is incredibly fast, as he evolved after getting his ribs destroyed.And again Baki has multiple speed and stats amps attacks with 0.5 SU to always get his attacks in first and the fact he can KO Garou when ever it can effect them.
Musashi and basically anyone from the main cast as they all have IR lolLike?
Baki has majority of the advantages in this fight, if you mean to list them I can if you want me to specify. But yeah majority of Garou kit is nothing really that new or is going to surprise Baki except for Garou really fantastic RE.Such as? Has anyone possesses RE like that?
No? If your saying that all of Baki stats amps get dealt with WSRSF that’s just wrong, but your forgetting Baki and copy techniques as well and can use it with his stat amps. Also no? Just because you can fight in your sleep doesn’t man the effect just get negated like that lol. Again yeah I know Garou has good RE, however it’s already been deemed that Baki has majority of advantages at the start of this fight and it’s in character for him to end fights quickly. Not fast enough for Baki to Incap him.Stat amps get dealt with WSRSF. 0.5 SU doesn’t matter since Garou can fight in his sleep. Garou also gets faster and stronger so, not really a good point. And that is incredibly fast, as he evolved after getting his ribs destroyed.
Not only can baki as well but way better too lolBaku was a martial art expert right? Garou can copy that like he copied Watchdog man. And also Garou can predict the enemy's movement.
could we have some feats of what Baki's copied, the conditions he was in or the complexity of the technique?Not only can baki as well but way better too lol
Thank you for the analysis. I've read some Baki, but I'm not a Baki powerscaler so I'm sure I've missed out on some relevant points for Baki's side.Now, onto the fight itself:
I really like it. Garou is an awesome character and the concept is way too good of a fight to pass on. I may do some mistakes on this analysis as I know only about Baki, and I'm sticking to the profile and what I've seen here on the thread about Garou.
I don't really need to cover power. Baki is considerably stronger and can buff himself even higher than Garou can when buffing himself, but Garou has a very good lifting advantage. Baki can subvert it a bit by doing something like the Aiki that redirects the flow of energy, and if Garou isn't expecting it, break out of simple holds and stuff, especially with his body control. With Garou's skill and perception, however, such escapes would only work so much before he gets it.
Unsurprisingly, Garou's toughness makes up for Baki's superior raw power, mostly. His regeneration is very quick, his immortality allows to him not only shrug off stuff that would disable normal people, but outright be unable to be affected by it. Would Baki get caught off-guard by him surviving things normal people would've died to, like a very broken neck and being punched clean through, or having the heart stopped? Unlike how other people pointed out, unless Garou has some form of very good stealth mastery/presence hiding, Baki could feel he was still alive and willing to fight, as he can not only detect fighting spirit and bloodlust, but he has very acute, enhanced senses. He'd be surprised that someone can survive that, but I wouldn't say be caught off-guard.
On a skill match, I see Baki as being superior. I've already went on about copying (Short answer: Garou copies faster - although that is a moot point - and he has a superhuman intuition that enables him to copy a LOT of stuff by proxy at once, and even improve upon it noticeably better than Baki can, but Baki can copy much more complex techniques far more easily), but everything else, in basic instincts, experience, precision, applying the powers that he has, control over his own body, biomechanical efficiency, Baki simply seems better in general. I would debate this extensively, but I'm a bit out of time right now, and I don't have enough info on Garou to make a good analysis. Later I'll be up to the task if anyone is willing, but in general, Baki seems more skilled. Not by a lot, Garou is a rare character that isn't skill-stomped by Baki here, but still a considerable advantage.
In general power usefulness, I see a very unfortunate case: Baki has much more versatility and utility, with much more useful powers and ways to apply them, but the ones that Garou has mostly counter or nullify such advantages. With the fight dragging on, which it would, Garou would only get better and better by his continuous improving and accelerated development, and Baki would be pushed more and more into a corner.
For me, Garou wins after an extremely grueling battle, one he'd remember. Baki can win, especially if the condition was just to incap for a short amount of time, there was more context or if he was willing to go OOC, but Garou can win by either outlasting him or getting a very good grapple, while most of Baki's methods to win would require Garou to either not develop a resistance to what he's doing (Like spamming Bendas), acting very out of character or lighter requirements for a victory.
Strongest feat that was done casually with 0 effort. Yujiro was laughing his ass out when stopping that earthquake and wasn't even using demon back.It amazes me how a verse like Baki got low 7-B from statements alone when the best feat of the god tier is 7-C, but I digress. I vote Garou mainly due his reactive evolution and regeneration which I don't think Baki has a answer to.