Garou Avatar of God "Absolute Evil" vs Kaguya Ōtsutsuki

[LordGinSama]

Garou incaps with radiation. She can't do anything against it. She regens then succumbs to radiation sickness again and it keeps going until Garou BFRs her to another dimension where she can't get back from.

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THIS. ******* thank you Kachon.

 

[LordGinSama]

Pretty sure Kaguya's only win-con is IT and ETSO, both of which she doesn't start off with and the latter Garou can probably just avoid entirely with a Gate.

 

[Kachon123]

Pretty sure Kaguya's only win-con is IT and ETSO, both of which she doesn't start off with and the latter Garou can probably just avoid entirely with a Gate.

He could probably just contain them within one like Blast did with SSSP^2.

 

[LordGinSama]

He could probably just contain them within one like Blast did with SSSP^2.

This is another good point.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

To sum up:
Garou's radiation is too much for her (350,000 times her resistance level) and will not go away. Even if she regens, it'll just keep hitting her and that's assuming it doesn't wreak havoc on her DNA and cells and causing a host of other issues, alongside just incapacitating her. Kaguya will never be 100% even if she can somehow still operate under that (and I doubt it).

Her only real weapons are IT and ETSO and both of those have problems. IT is not instant and not something she immediately goes for and even if she does, Garou will be on her from the moment the fight starts and will not give her respite. As for ETSO, well, he can just avoid it with portals or contain it. Not mention that the ETSO needs some time to charge and Garou would probably just interrupt it anyway.

I haven't said before but I'm siding with Garou.

 

[LordGinSama]

Garou solos the verse tbh.

 

[theultimate5105]

Turning into a mountain sized monster would just mean she has a greater surface area to be exposed to Garou's radiation lol

and a exponentially greater volume

Still killed people from dozens of meters away in seconds and Blast stated that anyone who got closer would die instantly

No it didn’t it knocked them out

And if that isn't sufficient, Garou can always hit her with a gamma ray burst, that's certain to kill her instantly

No it’s not, she has High regen are you capable of reading

Yeah, to reclaim the chakra of the world. She's been dropped into foreign world that doesn't have that and has an active hostile threat in front of her. Plus, when it was cast already, it missed several notable people. Nothing was stopping her from casting another one on the last group of people who have chakra and make up her only true resistance. There's nothing saying that she couldn't do it again.

all planets have chakra, hell the sun has chakra. Also IT gets rid of said threat.
It did not miss them Sasuke blocked it, how would Kaguya know they were not just immune to it

Even if she wanted to go for it, Garou is not going to let her go and do it.

based on what exactly

That’s not how burden of proof works buddy. I already demonstrated Garou’s passive radiation works on various people when dozens of meters away which immediately incapacitates them. Even against those with regen to high levels at that. Can you demonstrate Kaguya’s regen would help her deal with radiation when it’s already demonstrated radiation bypasses characters with regen? Low level radiation resistance is literally nothing compared to Garou’s passive radiation per second. And as people already explained, regeneration doesn’t negate the effects of radiation.

You have demonstrated that it incaps people without regen in a few seconds, and the people with regen it effected have regen that is fodder to Kaguyas
Except Radiation resistence mitigates it exponentially so what would knock out normal humans in seconds would take minutes to knock out Kaguya

That’s not how IT has been demonstrated as we already see in the series that Madara first needed to distract Naruto and Sasuke before casting IT. Meaning Garou could easily pressure her to the point where she is unable to cast it.

He did not have his third eye active yet

Oh and IT wouldn’t even work since Garou fights unconsciously. So all IT would do is literally put him to sleep and he would unironically beat her ass while asleep.

Are you stupid, it fully immobilizes you instantly, it does not put you to sleep, it effects those which are already asleep

Do you….understand how much radiation is needed to instantly kill a human being?

First off this is wrong because no it was stated that had people gotten any closer to Garou, they would’ve instantly died. So you’re actually wrong on that. Secondly they literally did die moments later even when Garou was removed from the battlefield.

to put this into perspective to you, the elephants foot can’t instantly kill a person. Garou’s radiation levels are higher than that.

Yes and I have already replied over previous comments to all of it

 

[Maitreya12]

and a exponentially greater volume

Which means the greater the volume that she is being exposed to. Also making herself bigger just exposes her to bigger attacks from Garou that deal way higher levels of radiation such as nuclear fission and gamma ray burst.

No it didn’t it knocked them out

It literally killed them, even characters dozens of meters away. You’re just wrong on this.

No it’s not, she has High regen are you capable of reading

Are you capable of reading? Her having high regen doesn’t mitigate the effects of radiation. Can you prove her regen would protect her from gamma ray burst levels of radiation?

based on what exactly

Based on the fact that he is capable of instantly incapacitating her alongside pressuring her to the point where she is unable to cast it.

You have demonstrated that it incaps people without regen in a few seconds, and the people with regen it effected have regen that is fodder to Kaguyas
Except Radiation resistence mitigates it exponentially so what would knock out normal humans in seconds would take minutes to knock out Kaguya

Can you prove it would take “minutes” for Kaguya to be incapacitated by the radiation? Garou’s passive radiation is literally hundreds of thousands of times (possibly into the million ranges) more potent than the radiation she is exposed to. Even if she’s not immediately incapacitated, all that means is she gets immediately weaker the very second the battle starts which just means Garou blitzes and beats her up with no difficulty. Which means she’s getting an even higher dosage of radiation as Garou is wailing on her which then immediately incapacitates her.

He did not have his third eye active yet

Yeah and all he had to do was open his eye and cast the jutsu, but seeing as how he needed to first distract Naruto and Sasuke to accomplish that, it indicates you can be pressured into being unable to cast the jutsu. Which Garou can easily do.

Are you stupid, it fully immobilizes you instantly, it does not put you to sleep, it effects those which are already asleep

It literally renders you into a dream like state as stated multiple times. That’s literally the whole point of it, so glad you’re showing you don’t read the manga. Which means that Garou just proceeds to beat Kaguya up while he’s in that dream state, since his body moves on pure instinct and fights uncounciously. So IT is actually useless against Garou and would even be embarrassing for Kaguya.

Yes and I have already replied over previous comments to all of it

No you clearly do not or else you would not make the idiotic claim of “it didn’t even kill humans instantly” as a means of downplaying Garou’s radiation when in fact the most radioactive things on the planet aren’t even capable of killing humans instantly. But Garou’s can just by getting too close to him. Your previous and current comments do not demonstrate in any way how Kaguya is getting around passive radiation that she has no idea is coming or affecting her.

 

[theultimate5105]

Which means the greater the volume that she is being exposed to. Also making herself bigger just exposes her to bigger attacks from Garou that deal way higher levels of radiation such as nuclear fission and gamma ray burst.

No not how it works, radiation doesn’t penetrate hundreds of meters through solid material
Which are irrelevant as only his passive radiation is relevent here

It literally killed them, even characters dozens of meters away. You’re just wrong on this.

Over minutes

Are you capable of reading? Her having high regen doesn’t mitigate the effects of radiation. Can you prove her regen would protect her from gamma ray burst levels of radiation?

It destroys her and she reforms later on which by the way the radiation could not linger as she would not be in a solid state until she regents

Based on the fact that he is capable of instantly incapacitating her alongside pressuring her to the point where she is unable to cast it.

Incaps people without resistence instantly and IT is faster then it, also she could literally shift dimensions then IT, then open up a portal for it to beat Garou

Can you prove it would take “minutes” for Kaguya to be incapacitated by the radiation? Garou’s passive radiation is literally hundreds of thousands of times (possibly into the million ranges) more potent than the radiation she is exposed to. Even if she’s not immediately incapacitated, all that means is she gets immediately weaker the very second the battle starts which just means Garou blitzes and beats her up with no difficulty. Which means she’s getting an even higher dosage of radiation as Garou is wailing on her which then immediately incapacitates her.

She has shown thousands of times the radiation tolerance of a human.
so it takes thousands of times as much radiation to effect kill her or incap her.

Yeah and all he had to do was open his eye and cast the jutsu, but seeing as how he needed to first distract Naruto and Sasuke to accomplish that, it indicates you can be pressured into being unable to cast the jutsu. Which Garou can easily do.

He needed to rip of part of his forehead then he cast it

It literally renders you into a dream like state as stated multiple times. That’s literally the whole point of it, so glad you’re showing you don’t read the manga. Which means that Garou just proceeds to beat Kaguya up while he’s in that dream state, since his body moves on pure instinct and fights uncounciously. So IT is actually useless against Garou and would even be embarrassing for Kaguya.

Yes and it paralyzes you.

No you clearly do not or else you would not make the idiotic claim of “it didn’t even kill humans instantly” as a means of downplaying Garou’s radiation when in fact the most radioactive things on the planet aren’t even capable of killing humans instantly. But Garou’s can just by getting too close to him. Your previous and current comments do not demonstrate in any way how Kaguya is getting around passive radiation that she has no idea is coming or affecting her.

If it can’t kill humans instantly then it does not matter against someone who instantly regens from it and has numerous methods of one shotting

 

[LordGinSama]

Show me Kag's having a resistance of thousands of times towards Radiation Manipulation.


Garou's Passive Radiation is already potent as **** and can increase it via Nuclear Fission. Kaguya tries to shift her dimensions and Garou just opens up another portal and bounces.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

all planets have chakra, hell the sun has chakra. Also IT gets rid of said threat.
It did not miss them Sasuke blocked it, how would Kaguya know they were not just immune to it

In Naruto's verse. Not in the OPM verse, where the fight takes place. You are contriving a reason for why she would go do it first thing. Even if she did, she has to actually get into position to use IT, like Madara did when he had to fly up into the upper atmosphere to get close enough to the moon.
Also, you just proved my point. By your logic, Kaguya should have tried to do it again because she has no idea how they avoided it. Maybe it was fluke. She'd have ample reason to try, given the levels of chakra that Naruto and Sasuke possess and her desire to reclaim it. A desire, she had to talked out of it by Black Zetsu later on.

based on what exactly

You mean, other than the fact that Garou's thing to is deliver overwhelming offense on his opponents and that he's going to engage with her immediately on the fight even starting.

The simple point is that you believe that her regeneration is enough to deal with the radiation but that's not how that works. Regen is not a get out of all kinds of damage free card. It does not stop things like poison, disease or other side effects unless it's shown to. Without that, it's just physically healing wounds to the body. Kaguya has never had to heal active cellular damage or damage to her very DNA or things like Acute Radiation Poisoning, which can cause people to seizure or drop into a coma. Garou's radiation it's going to just damage her body, it's going to damage the very things that make it up and heal it, and they're not going to function properly. She could experience confusion, loss of consciousness, cardiovascular collapse, convulsions and so much more at any time from the sheer amount radiation.

We've literally already accounted for Kaguya's resistance to typical cosmic radiation and that Garou's passive radiation exceeds what she can actually withstand 350,000x over and should he get closer to her it's only going to increase in intensity. Hell, if he uses Nuclear Fission the radiation levels skyrocket by 15-18x times. Meaning that his attacks are exceed her resistance by 5,250,0000 - 6,300,000x over. Garou's radiation incapacitates and kills even if you dozens of meters and it'll kill you immediately if you get more than a few feet away from him.

 

[Maitreya12]

No not how it works, radiation doesn’t penetrate hundreds of meters through solid material
Which are irrelevant as only his passive radiation is relevent here

My guy what? Radiation goes straight into your cells and atoms, the kind of levels Garou’s passive radiation is delivering would affects an incredibly wide area. And no Kaguya making herself bigger just means she’s literally a bigger target for Garou to land his more potent radioactive moves such as nuclear fission which can be planetary in sizes. As well as Gamma Ray Burst which would just completely neg her. If god forbid she gets hit by a GRB, then her whole atomic system is f’ed you understand that right?

Over minutes

That’s literally still more potent than the elephants foot, the most radioactive thing on earth. Also getting within striking range is instant death.

It destroys her and she reforms later on which by the way the radiation could not linger as she would not be in a solid state until she regents

My dude radiation affects you DNA, you cells, and your freaking subatomic particles. Can you prove her regeneration is capable of dealing with her subatomic particles being degraded

Incaps people without resistence instantly and IT is faster then it, also she could literally shift dimensions then IT, then open up a portal for it to beat Garou

Nope, even Bang showed limited resistance and he would’ve instantly died has he gotten even within striking range of Garou. And that’s passive radiation by the way so no IT isn’t faster than it. Also can you prove that Kaguya would use this as her immediate go to move? Also can you prove Kaguya is even smart enough to use the portals and IT move like you suggested since she’s literally never done this ever in battle. And she’s not that smart of a fighter, especially compared to Garou.

Also IT can be avoided and reacted to as demonstrated with Sasuke and Garou can literally just teleport interplanetary ranges with his own portals so he has a way of avoiding IT as well.

She has shown thousands of times the radiation tolerance of a human.
so it takes thousands of times as much radiation to effect kill her or incap her.

Can you prove she has “thousands of times” the radiation tolerance of regular humans? And no that’s not how it logically works. As explained, Garou’s passive radiation is literally affecting her DNA, subatomic particles, etc. She is not proven to be able to deal with those kinds of damages so she also gets immediately incapacitated.

He needed to rip of part of his forehead then he cast it

Why is that such a time consuming move that he needs to use such extravagant moves to distract those two fighters. This is all Madara did.

1) he ripped off his headband
2) he opened his eye

Why are those two actions so incredibly time consuming that he made freaking meteors to just momentarily distract them. And if that is all that is needed to distract the usage of IT, then Garou is more than capable of doing so considering he could literally teleport his punches to her face.

Yes and it paralyzes you.

Due to being placed in a dream. Which would be useless against Garou, as he fights unconsciously.

If it can’t kill humans instantly then it does not matter against someone who instantly regens from it and has numerous methods of one shotting

It literally can. They just weren’t close enough, not a problem to someone who can teleport himself to you. Also her regeneration is useless against this level of radiation.


Also she really doesn’t. Here are her “one shotting” moves that Garou has perfect counters to.

1) Ash bones (can’t pierce Garou as he is too durable therefore can’t affect him)
2) IT (can fight unconsciously as well as being able to get out of range of IT easily)
3) ETSB (Can be absorbed via Gravity knuckles/Portals which have shown to be able to expand to planetary ranges. Also takes time and Garou can teleport.)

Meanwhile Garou’s passive radiation and radiation based attacks completely neg her. Hell he could even split her atoms via nuclear fission too. And that’s without factoring his copying abilities and reactive evolution.

 

[Kachon123]

No not how it works, radiation doesn’t penetrate hundreds of meters through solid material

What are you talking about?

 

[theultimate5105]

What are you talking about?

Something mountain sized is hundreds of meters in all directions

In Naruto's verse. Not in the OPM verse, where the fight takes place. You are contriving a reason for why she would go do it first thing. Even if she did, she has to actually get into position to use IT, like Madara did when he had to fly up into the upper atmosphere to get close enough to the moon.
Also, you just proved my point. By your logic, Kaguya should have tried to do it again because she has no idea how they avoided it. Maybe it was fluke. She'd have ample reason to try, given the levels of chakra that Naruto and Sasuke possess and her desire to reclaim it. A desire, she had to talked out of it by Black Zetsu later on.

and where did it say it takes place in the OPM verse. No she doesn’t, Madara needed to do that to get his third eye. Why would it be a fluke

You mean, other than the fact that Garou's thing to is deliver overwhelming offense on his opponents and that he's going to engage with her immediately on the fight even starting.

And Kaguya simply looks in the time it takes him to reach her and he loses

The simple point is that you believe that her regeneration is enough to deal with the radiation but that's not how that works. Regen is not a get out of all kinds of damage free card. It does not stop things like poison, disease or other side effects unless it's shown to. Without that, it's just physically healing wounds to the body. Kaguya has never had to heal active cellular damage or damage to her very DNA or things like Acute Radiation Poisoning, which can cause people to seizure or drop into a coma. Garou's radiation it's going to just damage her body, it's going to damage the very things that make it up and heal it, and they're not going to function properly. She could experience confusion, loss of consciousness, cardiovascular collapse, convulsions and so much more at any time from the sheer amount radiation.

She regens from pure energy, she can be conscious even if her brain is gone, none of that matters, hell she has type 2 immortality on top of that

We've literally already accounted for Kaguya's resistance to typical cosmic radiation and that Garou's passive radiation exceeds what she can actually withstand 350,000x over and should he get closer to her it's only going to increase in intensity. Hell, if he uses Nuclear Fission the radiation levels skyrocket by 15-18x times. Meaning that his attacks are exceed her resistance by 5,250,0000 - 6,300,000x over. Garou's radiation incapacitates and kills even if you dozens of meters and it'll kill you immediately if you get more than a few feet away from him.

Yes and Kaguyas resistence exceeds normal humans by hundreds-thousands of times meaning it will take thousands of times as much time to kill or incap Kaguya as it would for a normal human

My guy what? Radiation goes straight into your cells and atoms, the kind of levels Garou’s passive radiation is delivering would affects an incredibly wide area. And no Kaguya making herself bigger just means she’s literally a bigger target for Garou to land his more potent radioactive moves such as nuclear fission which can be planetary in sizes. As well as Gamma Ray Burst which would just completely neg her. If god forbid she gets hit by a GRB, then her whole atomic system is f’ed you understand that right?

You do realise that going into the outer few meters on a mountain sized being means jack shit. And no that does not matter as those are regened from

That’s literally still more potent than the elephants foot, the most radioactive thing on earth. Also getting within striking range is instant death.

for normal humans and Garou will never reach striking range

My dude radiation affects you DNA, you cells, and your freaking subatomic particles. Can you prove her regeneration is capable of dealing with her subatomic particles being degraded

It does not effect subatomic particles in any meaningful way and regen from energy>regen from any matter

Nope, even Bang showed limited resistance and he would’ve instantly died has he gotten even within striking range of Garou. And that’s passive radiation by the way so no IT isn’t faster than it. Also can you prove that Kaguya would use this as her immediate go to move? Also can you prove Kaguya is even smart enough to use the portals and IT move like you suggested since she’s literally never done this ever in battle. And she’s not that smart of a fighter, especially compared to Garou.

Said passive radiation which would not do anything fast enough
Directly after she got her powers she did it, in the anime she opened a portal to IT using a moon in another dimension

Also IT can be avoided and reacted to as demonstrated with Sasuke and Garou can literally just teleport interplanetary ranges with his own portals so he has a way of avoiding IT as well.

No it really can’t, Sasuke blocked it before it happened

Can you prove she has “thousands of times” the radiation tolerance of regular humans? And no that’s not how it logically works. As explained, Garou’s passive radiation is literally affecting her DNA, subatomic particles, etc. She is not proven to be able to deal with those kinds of damages so she also gets immediately incapacitated.

She is perfectly fine spending decades in space which would cause visible damage to humans at hundreds of times less radiation

Why is that such a time consuming move that he needs to use such extravagant moves to distract those two fighters. This is all Madara did.

1) he ripped off his headband
2) he opened his eye

Why are those two actions so incredibly time consuming that he made freaking meteors to just momentarily distract them. And if that is all that is needed to distract the usage of IT, then Garou is more than capable of doing so considering he could literally teleport his punches to her face.

Because said meteors are kinda irrelevant, and also that was literally part of his head he was ripping off

Due to being placed in a dream. Which would be useless against Garou, as he fights unconsciously.

Again you are in denial for how it works

It literally can. They just weren’t close enough, not a problem to someone who can teleport himself to you. Also her regeneration is useless against this level of radiation.

No it is not

Also she really doesn’t. Here are her “one shotting” moves that Garou has perfect counters to.

1) Ash bones (can’t pierce Garou as he is too durable therefore can’t affect him)

They can kill via piercing just the tiniest part of his body so no they can

2) IT (can fight unconsciously as well as being able to get out of range of IT easily)

Uncounciousness does not matter and no he cannot escape it as all Kaguya needs to do is open a portal to wherever he ran away to

3) ETSB (Can be absorbed via Gravity knuckles/Portals which have shown to be able to expand to planetary ranges. Also takes time and Garou can teleport.)

Lol no, it’s existence erasure and it can destroy entire solar systems

Meanwhile Garou’s passive radiation and radiation based attacks completely neg her. Hell he could even split her atoms via nuclear fission too. And that’s without factoring his copying abilities and reactive evolution.

His passive radiation does not neg her, Anything which is not passive is worse then useless as high regen exists

 

[Maitreya12]

And Kaguya simply looks in the time it takes him to reach her and he loses

Prove IT is her go to move especially when she literally hasn’t used it in combat before.

She regens from pure energy, she can be conscious even if her brain is gone, none of that matters, hell she has type 2 immortality on top of that

Prove she has that level of regen. She’s only listed as “likely high” which means there’s no evidence for her being able to regenerate her subatomic particles or if Garou split her atoms via nuclear fission as well.

Yes and Kaguyas resistence exceeds normal humans by hundreds-thousands of times meaning it will take thousands of times as much time to kill or incap Kaguya as it would for a normal human

Prove “hundreds of thousands” of times, where did you get this number from or did you just pull it out of your ass?

You do realise that going into the outer few meters on a mountain sized being means jack shit. And no that does not matter as those are regened from

Garou’s radiation extends planetary my guy. And no prove she can regenerate subatomic particles being messed with and split atoms.

for normal humans and Garou will never reach striking range

Garou can literally teleport his punches to her face.

It does not effect subatomic particles in any meaningful way and regen from energy>regen from any matter

It literally removes your electrons my guy. Do you understand what happens to the body when all your electrons are gone? Also prove she has regen from nothing but energy since that would classify as low-Godly regen and Kaguya is listed as only “likely high” regen. Maybe do a CRT about it and see how well it can be approved.

Said passive radiation which would not do anything fast enough
Directly after she got her powers she did it, in the anime she opened a portal to IT using a moon in another dimension

Literally hundreds of thousands to millions of times greater than what she has been exposed to per second. Which messes with her subatomic particles.

Anime ain’t the manga my guy. Also that wasn’t for combat so irrelevant to the point, can you show she’d do this for combat?

No it really can’t, Sasuke blocked it before it happened

Yes it can since it’s literally just light, which can be avoided or moved out the way from, especially via portals.

She is perfectly fine spending decades in space which would cause visible damage to humans at hundreds of times less radiation

Where are you getting decades in space from? From her time inside the moon? Can you prove she’s getting a high or even comparable levels of dosage of radiation when she’s literally inside the moon and not in outer space.

Because said meteors are kinda irrelevant, and also that was literally part of his head he was ripping off

You completely ignored the point which I take is a non rebuttal. Why did just removing that piece and opening his eye require that he needed to distract his opponents first. If that’s all that’s needed to distract him, then Garou can easily do the same to Kaguya and her IT.

Again you are in denial for how it works

You saying “no” isn’t an argument. I could say the same about you being in denial over Garou’s unconscious attacks. All IT does is render you in a dream like state which Garou can move regardless of him being conscious or not.

No it is not

Prove it. You simply saying “no” isn’t an argument. Prove she can regenerate from her DNA and subatomic particles being messed with Liz

They can kill via piercing just the tiniest part of his body so no they can

Prove they can pierce any part of Garou in the slightest when he scales massively above her.

Uncounciousness does not matter and no he cannot escape it as all Kaguya needs to do is open a portal to wherever he ran away to

Yes it does since he can fight regardless of him being conscious or not. So regardless of him being in a dream like state, he can still fight.

Lol no, it’s existence erasure and it can destroy entire solar systems

That doesn’t stop it from being able to be absorbed before it gets massive enough to do so which takes an extended period of time.

His passive radiation does not neg her, Anything which is not passive is worse then useless as high regen exists

Yes it does, you have not demonstrated in the slightest how Kaguya’s regeneration is letting her handle her atoms being destroyed or split. High regen isn’t low-godly regen as high regen constitutes molecular and atomic levels of regen. So in other words, Garou splitting her atoms would be above her regen capabilities since she hasn’t demonstrated atomic levels of regen.

 

[theultimate5105]

Prove IT is her go to move especially when she literally hasn’t used it in combat before.

Already showed why it is

Prove she has that level of regen. She’s only listed as “likely high” which means there’s no evidence for her being able to regenerate her subatomic particles or if Garou split her atoms via nuclear fission as well.

Likely means it is taken as the default.

Prove “hundreds of thousands” of times, where did you get this number from or did you just pull it out of your ass?

Hundreds-thousands of times, there is a difference

Garou’s radiation extends planetary my guy. And no prove she can regenerate subatomic particles being messed with and split atoms.

Already proved she can regenerate from energy

Garou can literally teleport his punches to her face.

And she can literally teleport into another dimension

It literally removes your electrons my guy. Do you understand what happens to the body when all your electrons are gone? Also prove she has regen from nothing but energy since that would classify as low-Godly regen and Kaguya is listed as only “likely high” regen. Maybe do a CRT about it and see how well it can be approved.

It is literally on the profile

Literally hundreds of thousands to millions of times greater than what she has been exposed to per second. Which messes with her subatomic particles.

Which is meaningless

Anime ain’t the manga my guy. Also that wasn’t for combat so irrelevant to the point, can you show she’d do this for combat?

So you are saying that anything which is not fully 100% for combat cannot be used

Yes it can since it’s literally just light, which can be avoided or moved out the way from, especially via portals.

No it really isn’t, light does not ignore 12,000km of solid earth

Where are you getting decades in space from? From her time inside the moon? Can you prove she’s getting a high or even comparable levels of dosage of radiation when she’s literally inside the moon and not in outer space.

No from her time spent in space which otsutsukis do for massive stretches of time, it is likely Far longer then that

You completely ignored the point which I take is a non rebuttal. Why did just removing that piece and opening his eye require that he needed to distract his opponents first. If that’s all that’s needed to distract him, then Garou can easily do the same to Kaguya and her IT.

Kaguya does not have that same problem

You saying “no” isn’t an argument. I could say the same about you being in denial over Garou’s unconscious attacks. All IT does is render you in a dream like state which Garou can move regardless of him being conscious or not.

Unfortunatly you seem to have no idea on how it works, If it was that simple perfect jins wouldn’t even care about it as their tailed beasts could easily take over

Prove it. You simply saying “no” isn’t an argument. Prove she can regenerate from her DNA and subatomic particles being messed with Liz

She can regenerate from energy, boom proved it

Prove they can pierce any part of Garou in the slightest when he scales massively above her.

You don’t seem to get that piercing singular atoms of his body would do that

Yes it does since he can fight regardless of him being conscious or not. So regardless of him being in a dream like state, he can still fight.

You again don’t seem to know how IT works

That doesn’t stop it from being able to be absorbed before it gets massive enough to do so which takes an extended period of time.

No it would destroy said Gravity punches

Yes it does, you have not demonstrated in the slightest how Kaguya’s regeneration is letting her handle her atoms being destroyed or split. High regen isn’t low-godly regen as high regen constitutes molecular and atomic levels of regen. So in other words, Garou splitting her atoms would be above her regen capabilities since she hasn’t demonstrated atomic levels of regen.

Already shown on the profile


Anyways TLDR. You lack the ability to read the justification on the profile that it is High regen from energy, IT does not just put one to sleep as it would be useless against Killer Bee if it did. All Kaguya Requires is simply looking and Deciding to activate IT which one shots and no matter what Garou does he literally cannot do anything to Kaguya as she can dimension swap to dimensions outside of his range and regen from anything he can do.

 

[Maitreya12]

Already showed why it is

No you have no as I have already properly responded to your so called arguments. You failing to provide a proper response is simply a bad argumentation on your part.

Likely means it is taken as the default.

Yeah and High regen isn’t low godly regen which means you still need to prove she can regenerate from her atoms being split.

Hundreds-thousands of times, there is a difference

You didn’t address the argument once again prove she has that level of resistance.

Already proved she can regenerate from energy

You didn’t provide any proof whatsoever that she can regenerate from completely nothing as that would entail low-godly regen which is not something Kaguya is listed as having. All you’ve done is make the claim she can.

And she can literally teleport into another dimension

Before Garou punches her in the face which he can do isnangly via portals? Prove it. Also So can Garou.

It is literally on the profile

Glad to know you don’t even know what’s on Kaguya’s profile. High regen ain’t low godly regen my guy.

Which is meaningless

As the judge told Alex Jones:

“Your beliefs don’t make something true.” When the radiation exposure is that massive it is not meaningless as her whole atomic structure is getting out of whack.

So you are saying that anything which is not fully 100% for combat cannot be used

Literally never said that, nice strawman. Just that Kaguya never used it for combat purposes nor has she demonstrated she’s smart enough to use it in the ways you’ve described for combat.

No it really isn’t, light does not ignore 12,000km of solid earth

Yes it is since again, it’s literally just light which is something that is projected and can be avoided. Especially via portals which Garou can do inter planetary ranges.

No from her time spent in space which otsutsukis do for massive stretches of time, it is likely Far longer then that

Ok where are you getting “decades” spent just traveling in space alone. Also otsutsuki’s are literal parasites so the radiation exposure they’re getting is still less.

Kaguya does not have that same problem

Once again you ignore the argument because you simply have no response. If simple actions still need massive distractions against characters to preform the ability uninterrupted, then Garou can do the same with Kaguya and halt her IT.

Unfortunatly you seem to have no idea on how it works, If it was that simple perfect jins wouldn’t even care about it as their tailed beasts could easily take over

IT affects tailed beasts too my guy so that doesn’t work, Garou however it doesn’t matter if he’s completely unconscious since his body moves on pure instinct and action alone. So Garou still negs IT.

Oh and Bee didn’t even have Gyuki at the time so your argument already starts on false premises.

She can regenerate from energy, boom proved it

Wow didn’t know “proving” something was so easy to do. I mean if that all it takes I guess I just proved Garou’s regular punches bypass Kaguya’s immortality and regeneration. It simply doesn’t work against Garou and he one shots Kaguya since she’s just a regular human to him. There we go it. Since saying something is apparently all that’s needed to prove something, I just proved how Kathy’s can’t regenerate against Garou’s attacks. Boom easy.

Garou one shots Kaguya. Boom, proved it easy. Debate can end now since I Just proved Garou one shots Kaguya.

You don’t seem to get that piercing singular atoms of his body would do that

Prove it, prove pirercing a “single atom” triggers her ash bone affects. Oh yeah and then prove that her ash bones can even affect atoms in the first place since you can’t pierce atoms my guy. Why do you think splitting atoms via nuclear fission is already such a big deal? Can you probe Kaguya’s ash bones affects things on the atomic level?

You again don’t seem to know how IT works

You again don’t seem to understand the manga itself nor have you provided an actual response to Garou’s unconscious fighting.

No it would destroy said Gravity punches

Not it wouldn’t especially since those gravity knuckles can absorb things and extend to planetary ranges which means it can absorb ETSB before it gets massive which it takes time to do so.

Already shown on the profile

High regen ain’t low-godly regen. High regen is still susceptible to atomic dismemberment. Which Garou has in spades.

Anyways TLDR. You lack the ability to read the justification on the profile that it is High regen from energy, IT does not just put one to sleep as it would be useless against Killer Bee if it did. All Kaguya Requires is simply looking and Deciding to activate IT which one shots and no matter what Garou does he literally cannot do anything to Kaguya as she can dimension swap to dimensions outside of his range and regen from anything he can do.

TLDR: You actually don’t understand the simple definitions laid out by vs battle wiki or just in general. You believe simply making a claim is all that is needed to “prove” something and you’re so willfully ignorant to the definitions that vs battle wiki laid out that you continually confuse low-godly and high regen together which are not at all the same thing. High regen doesn’t prove you can regenerate from your atoms being split or electrons being thrown away from all your atoms.

The other methods of which Kaguya can possibly win have already been addressed which you have failed to properly respond to. IT puts you into a dream like state said multiple times throughout the series which Garou can counter via unconscious fighting. Your response with Bee doesn’t hold water since he never even had the tailed beast in him when IT was casted.

Garou’s passive radiation also completely negs Kaguya which you have failed to prove why it wouldn’t since it’s screwing up her entire atomic structure which makes her regeneration useless and Garou can use gates to traverse as well and even copy abilities too.

 

[theultimate5105]

TLDR: You actually don’t understand the simple definitions laid out by vs battle wiki or just in general. You believe simply making a claim is all that is needed to “prove” something and you’re so willfully ignorant to the definitions that vs battle wiki laid out that you continually confuse low-godly and high regen together which are not at all the same thing. High regen doesn’t prove you can regenerate from your atoms being split or electrons being thrown away from all your atoms.

I honestly don’t know if you even understand what you are saying now
Regen from energy>>>>regen From particles of any size

The other methods of which Kaguya can possibly win have already been addressed which you have failed to properly respond to. IT puts you into a dream like state said multiple times throughout the series which Garou can counter via unconscious fighting. Your response with Bee doesn’t hold water since he never even had the tailed beast in him when IT was casted.

I have already debunked all your points and you continue to keep reciting the same garbage that has been debunked over and over. Really, If he didn’t he would have died.

Garou’s passive radiation also completely negs Kaguya which you have failed to prove why it wouldn’t since it’s screwing up her entire atomic structure which makes her regeneration useless and Garou can use gates to traverse as well and even copy abilities too.

Already disproved all of this

 

[Maitreya12]

I honestly don’t know if you even understand what you are saying now
Regen from energy>>>>regen From particles of any size

Of course you don’t want to address any of these responses:

“Glad to know you don’t even know what’s on Kaguya’s profile. High regen ain’t low godly regen my guy.”
“You didn’t provide any proof whatsoever that she can regenerate from completely nothing as that would entail low-godly regen which is not something Kaguya is listed as having. All you’ve done is make the claim she can.”

Since you’ve done nothing to oppose them. So good to know.

I have already debunked all your points and you continue to keep reciting the same garbage that has been debunked over and over. Really, If he didn’t he would have died.

Please stop projecting your bad argument format onto me.

Already disproved all of this

You did not. You simply failed to understand the difference between High regen and low-Godly regen.

One is something Kaguya is listed as having, the other is not. You can find the explanation between these two things under the regeneration page in vs battle wiki fandom.

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

Kaguya’s High 4-C rating isn’t even an actual AP feat it’s just a creation thing

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Should I close this? It doesn't seem to be going anywhere and Garou looks like he stomps.

 

[King_Gorilla4002-8922]

Garou hit kills with nuclear fission and gravity knucle, as it would literally kill kaguya with its massive amount of heat which is millions of degrees, and the black hole generated by Gravity knucle would absorb any chakra left behind preventing kaguya from respawning. to come back to life

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Should I close this? It doesn't seem to be going anywhere and Garou looks like he stomps.

Honestly, I'd say yeah. Garou holds all the cards and Kaguya's only options are things he has responses to and/or not really in character to do. Just about everything else is useless due to the sheer difference in AP/DURA and radiation pretty much makes fighting him a death sentence.