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It is purely gameplay, as it works off the fact that the enemy team in a game has someone who has recently killed one/many of your teammates. No lore material suggests that Garen has DJ and knows how to use it. His magical capabilities are only hinted at by another champion's lines.Monarch Laciel said:Is there any lore material stating how Garen's villain thing works?
Because if we're doing it purely from gameplay, I would say that him being able to affect people who really aren't villains is pretty blatant gameplay mechanics. I seriously doubt he considers people like Lux or Jarvan villains.
I'm arguing for Saber as she has the AP/Durability advantage as well as her Excalibur for range and that Garen's feats involve assuming that gameplay mechanics are part of the champion's lore and not simply gameplay mechanics for the game itself.Aeyu said:Hey, why is there a bunch of negativity in this thread here?
There was an argument for Saber, but why is there negativity anyway?
also
what's the argument
Except he's never used it in a fight, and there are plenty of other abilities that champions have in game that they never show in lore. Hence gameplay shouldn't be used as valid evidence.WeeklyBattles said:@Monarch The lore and game blend together, how it works in the game is how it works in a fight
Ok, I'm going to need a bit more explanation on this, because Low 7-C people fighting being able to fight 3-B people seems to directly contradict that.WeeklyBattles said:@Monarch The lore and game blend together, how it works in the game is how it works in a fight
Same rules we use for Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat, them being able to fight vastly stronger characters on equal grounds is disregardedMonarch Laciel said:Ok, I'm going to need a bit more explanation on this, because Low 7-C people fighting being able to fight 3-B people seems to directly contradict that.
If i were the only one arguing this then i might but nearly everyone who has told you no on this topic supports the fact that im not wrong in this caseRegisNex1232 said:I could say the same about you too, ever consider that you might be wrong in this issue?
@Monarch, essentially Weekly's cherrypicking some gameplay abilities as lore canon to Garen, despite that not being the case and using that to scale a majority of the cast.
I dont think you understand, multiple staff members have told Regis to stop using the argument he's using here. He's going against staff warnings and orders by doing so.RebubleUselet said:Voting Saber FRA
And no offense Weekly, but telling people to completely dismiss other's point is not a good thing
Every other showcasing of abilities in the lore is identical or near identical to what is shown in game, why should Garen's be any different?Monarch Laciel said:@Weekly But I'm not convinced that the mechanics of how they work in-game are identical to how they work in a non-gameplay-based situation
So let me get this straight.WeeklyBattles said:Yeah that was back when they retconned the old lore, when the Institute, Fields of Justice, and Summoners were the canon reason that game and lore were separated. Now that theyre gone not only is there nothing separating lore and game, but Riot themselves has come out and said that the game and lore are intertwined, but certain aspects for each are left out so as to not limit either one's potential for growth and change. That coupled with the fact that lore events have directly affected the game itself (ie. Gangplank "dying" during Burning Tides making him unavailable in-game) further strengthen the connection between lore an game.
Yes, youre missing something, youre missing thisRebubleUselet said:@Weekly
I don't see neither the staff members you mentioned nor them giving Regis a warning
Unless I'm missing something
That calc is invalid. Asalt told you it assumes 55km as a low end which is wank. Should be cloud hight that is 2km.WeeklyBattles said:@Monarch Garen is mach 1500, Saber is 900+ right?
It is when the reasoning for the vote is based on arguments that multiple staff have told the voter to stop usingThisIsMySwagPack said:It is not up to one person to decide that votes are invalid. Other should state their opinion on that as well.
They dont. the same people that support him her are the ones that supported him thereRebubleUselet said:@Weekly
Weird how people now agree with them
Monarch Laciel said:So let me get this straight.
The entire premise of the game, the whole "settle things on the fields of justice where everyone is restricted to a certain powerlevel so we don't magically nuke everywhere again" is thrown aside. If that was all that happened, I'd just assume that practically everything that happens in-game is non-canon. But Riot comes out and says that the game and the lore are now intertwined. But the very existence of the game now contracticts the lore. Is there any mention in the new lore of the game?