Ganondorf vs. Narutoverse

[DeathBattleMike]

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Round 1: Ganondorf without Full Triforce

Round 2: Ganondorf with Full Triforce

Who wins?

 

[Pikachu942]

Round 1: Naruto wins with superior AP and durability and enough hax to win out.

Round 2: Ganon wins via the same way as Round 1 but the other way around.

 

[WarriorWare]

What about Kaguya?

 

[Shanks_of_the_red_haired_pirates]

Madara is enough faster + better hax even without his third eye this is a stomp

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I made a thread about Ganon vs Kaguya. No one responded.

Anyway, I'd give it to Ganon (round 2) because he doesn't need prep and has similar speed. And he has greater AP/Durability

 

[Shanks_of_the_red_haired_pirates]

He's not even close in terms of speed he's scaled off Onox who's high end Mach 900 while Madara no third eye is over Mach 3K he gets blitzed and haxxed

 

[SwordSlayer99]

Round 1. Naruto has higher AP and durability and more than enough hax to annihilate Ganondorf.

Round 2. Kaguya could most likely beat Ganondorf, but without Kaguya, Ganondorf solos the verse.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Ganondorf would have to be high MHS+, because Link (composite) has sub-rel reaction. How does Link's main rival have drastically slower speed.

 

[Shanks_of_the_red_haired_pirates]

Reactions are not movements so no.And frankly I have no idea where the sub rel even comes from.

 

[Blahblah9755]

Reactions are short movements, like the distance you'd move your arm for a punch, they're typically more important than movement speed in vs debates

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

^this

 

[Shanks_of_the_red_haired_pirates]

...No it'd be the speed in which you can react not attack..

And again he doesn't have any sub rel reaction speed feats it's just via scaling from an item he won't be able to deliver blows at that speed regardless

 

[Yamatohime]

Hm... Is Kaguya's Regenerationn enough for her to survive?

...No it'd be the speed in which you can react not attack..

Reaction speed is the speed of you response to enemy action: dodging, using ability or plain counter-attack. Movement speed is good if you can use long-range sniping though.

 

[Shanks_of_the_red_haired_pirates]

Blocking or countering attacks is pretty much keeping up with your adversary I wouldn't say it's a reaction.In any case the fact that attack speed ,combat speed and reaction speed are different categories pretty much says it all

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

attack speed is for beams and the like. Like the Special Beam Cannon for example

 

[Shanks_of_the_red_haired_pirates]

Combat speed is what your referring to and reaction speed is not:https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Speed

 

[Shanks_of_the_red_haired_pirates]

In any case I think Link has actual better feats then this since this is merely scaling from a really old game of Zelda

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Which one? And by old, do you mean N64 era or (S)NES/Gameboy era?

 

[Shanks_of_the_red_haired_pirates]

Not certain I have most Zelda games so I'll keep an eye out for one I recall a few though

 

[The_great_ZZ]

Ganondorf would have to be high MHS+, because Link (composite) has sub-rel reaction. How does Link's main rival have drastically slower speed.

After this comment no one is talking about Ganondorf.

 

[ThePerpetual]

Just going to point out that Ganondorf (at his best) is sitting at Mach 4800 or so, and that a good deal of the verse: Madara, Naruto, Sasuke, etc.: all are counted as scaling to this Mach 7500+ feat.

So yeah, Naruto's top-tiers are in fact sitting at higher speeds than Ganondorf.

 

[Cropfist]

I'm not sure. Ganon actually has a good deal of good hax.

 

[ThePerpetual]

Or maybe I'm wrong, apparently we rejected that feat and now Narutoverse is what, Mach 3200-4000 or something? I dunno, I thought it was legitimate, but whatever I guess.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Madara's Mach 3277.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Kkapoios/Madara's_speed_feat