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Game Super Sonic And Game Solaris Upgrade

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http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Fourth_wall

Sonic can break the Fourth Wall.

https://youtu.be/rXfs7-7SKTo

All Sonic moves in Sonic Battle.

http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Sonic_Heal

Sonic has healing powers.

https://plus.google.com/109510219006341293901/posts/QicgGe4imqg

Sonic has cartoon physics.

sonic twitter is official news about all things sonic https://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/sonic-twitter-logo-pretty-625x352.jpg.

he also displays how game super sonic is stronger than the needlemouse meme (needlemouse rivals sanic btw) https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/...JER2d05ZIrgDfzY5thuLptrg3SUKm8ts6ZmhMJORvEQBZ.

the game sonic, eggman and shadow cause a twitter takeover https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/...ly5w706HXnGFDOAGw-KDz1i_FBvxPCHQ-Av_MNTTPowU8.

this has happened before https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/...rLWPELJnmAf5nKF-3yTLxMtqxrVHFi4YJG8J0LMWZEfSU

solaris is high multiverse+ in the games, he'd be higher but for the sake of devils advocate, let's work our way up tho for the meanwhile.

sonic has dream dimensions (maginaryworld, both game and archie, i don't gotta explain much really, by reading he manual/scans, you can see it: here , here and here they explain the dimensions) and (sonic rush: here , Generations: here and here and,sonic forces:tails talked about it there's sonic and the secret rings here: http://powersonic.com.br/games/manuais/ssecretrings_wii_manual.pdf. plus sonic and the Black night ), parallel universes/timelines (sonic generations, sonic rivals, and 06) and higher dimensions, described as being able to shatter several timelines and erase them into nothingness (if you want inquiry on the "higher dimensions and erase everything complexity", look at the sonic the hedgehog manual pages 319-324 here , sonic when he died traveled to a higher plane of existence with the alias of "great beyond", and when he came back, he was described as being different than when he died by mephiles, and solaris was erasing everything into nothingness and shattering other timelines according to this manual booklet (in the pages i mentioned) he's so powerful, a buffed super-sonic couldn't take him alone (in the pages i mentioned)

lumina stated in shuffle that maginary world is a realm that collects peoples dreams:(25:08) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfqS15CTjjw&pbjreload=10. but you already have that? good.

but people forget the context of this- https://www.digitpress.com/library/manuals/dreamcast/sonic_shuffle.pdf. page 2 it states that the precious stone holds dreams that keeps maginaryworld from unraveling, it's not that it would be destroyed exactly, but it would become a barren void, in the words of illumina: "*the dreams conquer the emptiness*", and those precious stones in page 2 are described as 5th dimensional objects, then there's the perfect precious stone that contains all of them as whole in page 13

precious stones are contained within the perfect precious stone

here are the quotes: *"Void A mysterious character who always appears 1 step ahead of Sonic and the others and destroys the Precioustone. He suddenly appeared at the Temple of Light which is located in the center of Maginaryworld and shattered the Perfect Precioustone. Thereafter, Void appears in the different lands of the Maginaryworld and further shatters the Precioustones (shattered pieces of the Perfect Precioustone). Void is a boy with a far away look in his eyes and shows no emotion at all. At times he speaks as if talking to himself and expresses his deep feelings, which have a sense of sadness to them. Illumina She is the guardian angel of Maginaryworld who resides in the Temple of Light and protects the Perfect Precioustone. When Void shattered the Perfect Precioustone, Illumina disappeared from Maginaryworld. She sometimes appears in the dreams of Sonic and the others. She has a warm and mysterious smile and fills the hearts of the listeners with joy and warmth with her words and the music from her harp"*- page 13

(31:02-31:36) shows the location of four-dimensional space, which has bubble universes (lowball) and a precious stone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfqS15CTjjw&pbjreload=10.

bubble universes are level 2 multiverses (like the brane multiverse) but is 11th dimensional as explained by michio kaku: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI50HN0Kshg.

Solaris can perform a spatial distortion meaning he can warp reality https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/S2NAKKkt5tAr9k8QZov3Ax0TvvTY7DmbvjpCnTpiPA=w810-h1440-rw-no Solaris can consume all existing timelines and collapse it into nothingness making him have Multiversal DC https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/7QzkcBWqGK2aoPB0TLZrv5yh6G8fymrmMpVi5YSAcw=w810-h1440-rw-no https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/rTI0xKr0X-bFtt-1UcqYYKpf0nwAWa3Qli322Akffw=w810-h1440-rw-no Omnipresent https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/G...Ot5ZWRfmCsTZtOnAFJGBDoCuaKcg=w810-h1440-rw-no Solaris can use the instability of time to cause a space-time rift https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1n7HTM7uIh3YlDt9JOch9Si5cc3aTudySB2zEwPlzA=w810-h1440-rw-no Solaris can send his foes and objects to distant worlds like how he did with the Chaos Emeralds https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/duAJd6qgEhYDdUGzRA9bYqTkFKRpd51HGGyX1J_vnA=w810-h1440-rw

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Sonic Injures Time Eater In Base: here (possible outlier)

Super Sonic damages the Time Eater with spin attacks Time Eater erases time and space every where including Maginaryworld easily putting him Multiversal {https://plus.google.com/+SonicTheHedgehog123/posts/E9nkdRgvjAc} {https://plus.google.com/115198278014529700260/posts/5SeYNWdzsuQ} His power is above his since the Time Eater couldn't handle one Chaos Emerald. {https://plus.google.com/115198278014529700260/posts/Uqcadccfbh2} Another feat that puts Super Sonic universal-high multiversal+, this is what 10 dimensional time would potentially look like: https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3071/2661425133_1328692483_z.jpg?zz=1 and https://ultraculture.org/blog/2014/12/16/heres-visual-guide-10-dimensions-reality/ we also take a look at michio kaku's string theory requirements: https://www.azquotes.com/picture-qu...ics-is-the-harmonies-michio-kaku-63-52-95.jpg. if then super sonic and time eater would be 10D-11D because that's exactly the description of what they were traveling in (look at the background of the stage to see what i'm talking about): here , here, here, here and then here if you find the image "*unreliable*" for some strange reason, there's the video: here where the strings vibrate.....

Solaris scales to time eater since he threatened the sonic-verse, was going to erase everything not just things related to time.

every super hedgehog was capable of damaging solaris http://info.sonicretro.org/images/6/6f/Sonic06_Prima_digital_guide.pdf#page=311 (Page 321-322)

sonic defeated these chief

according to page 323 sonic did defeat solaris: http://info.sonicretro.org/images/6/6f/Sonic06_Prima_digital_guide.pdf#page=311 (Page 323)

solaris was stated as some time of extra-terrestial https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-...227-n-rw/bandicam+2018-11-19+22-56-33-686.jpg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkHkbFWXGhQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA7rv980JPs&t=7m32s, Silver states that focusing your thoughts on a situation can bring any Miracle when using the chaos emeralds. that enforces dreams into reality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA7rv980JPs&t=4m25s, Eggman says that they were caught by a spatial distortion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA7rv980JPs&t=5m46s, its shown that Solaris is continuing existing in all timelines and Eggman also states it. That also translates he is living in a multiverse and exiting within it.11:02, its shown the three of them Warping to each universe. Also, since Super Sonic is seen to dodge Solaris's attacks, it means he has infinite speed. To be omnipresent, first you need is infinite speed. Infinite speed can be omnipresent, but it can't at the same time cause it needs a conscious power to do so. Sonic, Shadow and Silver are also nigh omnipresent as well, since Super Sonic could have guarded all the present, silver the future, and Shadow the past.
 
Stando, you gotta realize High 2-A Game Sonic doesn't have anything supporting it. At all.

At most, and I'm talking about a really big stretch, you could argue they're 2-B (not counting Game Illumina, she's already 2-B). You gotta relax here, take your time making one large thread instead of making multiple, and make sure there isn't anything going on. Both Archie and Game verses have revisions going on.

You seem like a chill person, but you gotta cool it a bit.
 
that is a lie bro, in tier 2, a high 2A character requires 5th-6th Dimensional Space Being Destroyed............ Sonic shuffle explains how the precioustone is created from several dreams created from people of many realities including sonics (this is in the manual on page 2) it's curving in a higher dimension (5D already), aka the maginaryworld which transcends that aspect containing many precioustones (the difference here is the precioustones are not portals like dragon ball heroes/xenoverses scrolls, but actual multiverses), if you read on further as it is stated that void destroys many of them and would eventually cause maginaryworld to *"unravel"* if he continued. in page 2 it also states that maginaryworld is a realm where reality and dreams exist as one, bruh, i don't need to explain the complexity of that.

if the verse is 6D, which is a requirement for 10-11D qualification according to michio kaku and many others, game sonic-verse would be around there.
 
Well it looks like it's my time to strike. I'm still determined to downgrade Super Sonic from 2-C to low 2-C. This time I'll be more specific and bring up new points that I found so give your immortal God some time to ripe this up...
 
Ok, two things.

1) There is absolutely nothing supporting High 2-A. Destroying timelines is 4D which is already higher-dimensional.

2) Zamasu Chan, you already tried to downgrade Super Sonic to Low 2-C twice and it was debunked both times.
 
Lay off of Zamasu, Shadow. Listing his failures and implying he will fail again might get us derailed for obvious reasons. Let's focus on ZaStando here. There is far more stuff he said we need to look over.
 
ZaStando27 said:
in page 2 it also states that maginaryworld is a realm where reality and dreams exist as one, bruh, i don't need to explain the complexity of that.
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Sorry but I ain't no mathematician so I'm gonna need you to explain why is is complex.
 
Maginaryworld was created by Illumina, which is comprised of countless universe-sized dreamworlds each created from the dreams of every person in the Game Sonic multiverse. That's 2-B.
 
good.

1) There is absolutely everything enough to support 2-A. Destroying timelines beyond the linear and containing it is 5D which is already higher-dimensional.

2) lumina stated in shuffle that maginary world is a realm that collects peoples dreams:(25:08) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfqS15CTjjw&pbjreload=10. but you already have that? good.

but people forget the context of this- https://www.digitpress.com/library/manuals/dreamcast/sonic_shuffle.pdf. page 2 it states that the precious stone holds dreams that keeps maginaryworld from unraveling, it's not that it would be destroyed exactly, but it would become a barren void, in the words of illumina: "*the dreams conquer the emptiness*", and those precious stones in page 2 are described as 5th dimensional objects, then there's the perfect precious stone that contains all of them as whole in page 13

precious stones are contained within the perfect precious stone

here are the quotes: *"Void A mysterious character who always appears 1 step ahead of Sonic and the others and destroys the Precioustone. He suddenly appeared at the Temple of Light which is located in the center of Maginaryworld and shattered the Perfect Precioustone. Thereafter, Void appears in the different lands of the Maginaryworld and further shatters the Precioustones (shattered pieces of the Perfect Precioustone). Void is a boy with a far away look in his eyes and shows no emotion at all. At times he speaks as if talking to himself and expresses his deep feelings, which have a sense of sadness to them. Illumina She is the guardian angel of Maginaryworld who resides in the Temple of Light and protects the Perfect Precioustone. When Void shattered the Perfect Precioustone, Illumina disappeared from Maginaryworld. She sometimes appears in the dreams of Sonic and the others. She has a warm and mysterious smile and fills the hearts of the listeners with joy and warmth with her words and the music from her harp"*

(31:02-31:36) shows the location of four-dimensional space, which has bubble universes (lowball) and a precious stone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfqS15CTjjw&pbjreload=10.
 
perfect precious stone is 6th dimensional at least as it contains precious stones 5th dimensional objects.
 
@MYHERO sonic's world is described as being real in most stories it's invloved in, king arthur's adventure tale, the arabian nights and aladdin, every continuity related to the arabian nights are considered connected to eachother: https://www.candlelightstories.com/storybooks/the-arabian-nights/. and it's connected to magic: the gathering http://store.channelfireball.com/catalog/magic_singles-old_expansions-arabian_nights/64.

i have scans that show arabian nights/magic: the gathering in some comics having infinite-planes or some ridiculous crud like the rabiah ........ http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CmwPjnOifc0/VSAesz2ja7I/AAAAAAAACz4/TGNE9YaZl1o/s1600/SuperHero.png.

dark spine sonic > alf-wa-lay-la > arabian nights > magic: the gathering
 
Can you please leave the crossovers out of this thread? Especially media franchises like Magic: the gathering. Save it for another one. It is too controversial and it will derail this thread. I regret even asking you to explain it. Tbh you didn't even answered my question at all.
 
bro, this is the arabian nights, it ain't a crossover, it's sonics main story, the fact is sonic and friends sees these multiverses as pure fiction and something to look at (they have their own dimensions and universes, shahra mentioned sonic going to some of them before going home by running), and unlike dragon ball heroes, the real world is not just an alternate universe just separate from the time-stream.

sonic is simply an expansion to the arabian nights, like all other stories.

sonic dwarfed the power of the arabian nights. which is a multiverse composed of 1000's of stories and continuities/universes and dimensional planes.

i'm gonna try to as nice as i can and explain it simply.

please read tier 2 again, 4th dimensional multiverse is the lowest and 5th dimensional multiverse is the highest.

if you guys seriously do not want to accept 2-A Game Sonic despite him clearly having bubble universes curving in higher 4th dimensional space, 5D space comprised of infinite dreams and dimensions, along with a conal time-stream referencing 10D time and michio kaku's 11D bands with lowball, then you guys at least have to accept 2-B, especially since the likes of super dimentio is on that tiering field... and he's not that much different from solaris whatsoever.neither is the mario cosmology, i actually have evidence for mario-verse being much lower than sonic-verse (i will not discuss it here, i'll make another thread)

back to the main point

solaris existed simultaneously within and out of the cosmology of sonic according to eggman and the manual pages i mentioned, and was erasing the concept of everything into nothingness!.

2B Game Super Sonic (all those who scale as well like imperierator ix and such) and Game Solaris. all or nothing.

ban me for all i care ( Talking to you antvasima and others related )this is the absolute truth, there's no dishonesty in none of the scans i've mentioned thus far. at least take a look, be considerate and be honest with yourself.
 
actually, a 7D multiverse has universes with different timelines and universes with different histories existing on dimensional planes.................... 5D is the lowest i have actually for the games.
 
@ZaStando Dude. I was talking about the crossover with Magi. It is way to controversial that it needs to be addressed on a different thread. If you bring it up here it's gonna get derailed that's why I am telling you this.
 
What are you talking about?, MaginaryWorld? Or? Magic: The Gathering?

If you're talking about one or the other, it's still in Sonics Vicinity.

MaginaryWorld Is Within Sonic-Verse, point-blank.

Everything Involved With The Arabian Nights is Within the stories, I thought I gave you and shadow the link?

It's a buff thread my guy, anything brought up in the post first can be debated from there on out.
 
Erazor Is A Djiin Who Constantly References The Arabian Nights, hell its a main thing in what happens at the final boss fight, Sonic And The Secret rings is not a Crossover, it's the real deal Within Continuity, Generations Even References The Events Of Secret rings and black knights.
 
@ZaStando Magic: The Gathering. That's what I'm talking about. All this crossover that adds into Sonic's cosmology is not a laughing matter here. It needs to be brought up at another thread, because if not it will get clogged up and we will have to a discussion about whether it is legit or not. Which would derail the topic on buffing Sonic. So it needs to be brought up in a different thread. Furthermore, in CRT threads you only discuss the things you have originally posted. Yeah look at your original comment and just focus on that. You brought this crossover cosmology and this Arabian Nights gig out of nowhere. And don't try to say it's because I asked you. I asked you to tell me how a realm that has reality and dreams coexisting as one is super complex. You did not needed to bring up Arabian Nights, or even Sonic for the matter.
 
@MYHERO "All this crossover that adds into Sonic's cosmology is not a laughing matter here" don't give me that hogwash ever again, because the argument you are bringing up does not make any sort of sense and was not even my argument, i never mentioned crossovers at all in this post. magic the gathering is the arabian nights as well as the arabian nights is magic: the gathering, as it's an extension. i never mentioned anything else of the sort, i did not mention that it was a crossover, you are the one claiming it, the arabian nights verse is a compiled multiverse, and darkspine sonic manipulated it to factory state.

all i said was arabian nights is an extension/connected of magic:the gathering, so in other words: arabian nights can be said as being the same thing as magic:the gathering.

a realm where dreams and reality coexist is complex because you're taking what's considered what's real and compiling it with something that does not exist/will exist. that's how it's complex, think about it for a second.
 
"all i said was arabian nights is an extension/connected of magic:the gathering, so in other words: arabian nights can be said as being the same thing as magic: the gathering."

Elaborate on this. This sounds incredulous, to say the least. You're not a bad person so I at least want to hear you out.
 
@ZaStando First off, calm down. Second off, I don't care what I called it. Crossovers, extensions, doesn't matter. What you're trying to say is that all these franchises are connected and therefore it adds to the Sonic cosmology. That is a far stretch, and it needs to be addressed at another thread which is happening. Just stick to the other one for that, and focus on the ones you've originally brought. My wording was off by calling it a crossover, but it was very clear that I was talking about the cosmology extension. Hell, you went off on a tangent on just a single quote of me misusing the word crossover and not bother to respond to my other points.

Other than that, thank you for the explanation of why it is complex. But, did you have any real reason to tell me this Arab thing in the first place?
 
@The Real Cal Howard well, if you read this, Arabian Nights is considered an ever expanding media (Connected To several stories, western, Asian, Muslim and what might have it) every story is considered part of the 1001 (and above) Stories, in short; everything is canon as it is non canon: https://www.candlelightstories.com/storybooks/the-arabian-nights/. I'm not saying sonic is infinite dimensional or some mess because of this, but the Arabian Nights is primarily a multiverse because of their 1001 (and more) stories, which darkspine Sonic dwarfed in his vicinity.

And to add depth to what I mean about magic the gathering being the same as the Arabian Nights: http://store.channelfireball.com/catalog/magic_singles-old_expansions-arabian_nights/64.

"This is where it all began. Released in December 1993, five months after the release of the basic game, Arabian Nights was the first expansion for Magic: The Gathering. The flavor of the cards was based on the characters, stories, and objects in the classic Middle Eastern tales, 1001 Arabian Nights. With this set, players can relive the tales of Sindbad and Aladdin, battle powerful djinns and efreets, and journey to strange lands like the Island of Wak-Wak and the Diamond Valley. Featuring some of the most powerful cards ever printed, like Library of Alexandria and Juzam Djinn, Arabian Nights was a fitting beginning to the long tradition that is Magic: The Gathering expansion sets." it's the literal exact same as magic: the gathering as well as it is an expansion and a "long tradition" yeah, you try arguing with the honest evidence I've displayed.

The infinite dimensional Scan I posted shown that if I over-balled hard enough, Sonic would be exactly of that level.

But he's 6D, High 2-A requires 5D, 6D is Above that. He's high 2-A- Low 1-C.


Crossover =\= Extension

Crossover: a point or place of crossing from one side of Fiction to the other/another.

Extension: a part that is added to the Fiction enlarge/prolong it: a continuation.

Except the fact that I mentioned sonic and the secret rings in my initial post...... stop lol. I am explaining the crossover thing-uh-mah-jij in my other posts. And you've just displayed a tu-quoque fallacy to your end, I am correcting you on the misuse of context of what happened, I wasn't displaying Arabian Nights as a crossover, it's actually canon to the Sonic Franchise, an extension that is mentioned once again in Sonic Generations, confirming it's canon.
 
^ Why's That?, you can't just claim that with no explanation. Can I get a reason/elaboration?

I could literally show you the Crossover Laws and show how it works.
 
because MTG and sonic are completely different verses...
 
@Wokistan actually they are the same, except Sonic-Verse is higher. https://www.candlelightstories.com/2009/03/27/the-history-of-the-arabian-nights/. Collections can be easily to Arabian Nights that are not in the scriptures. (Look to my response to shadow for more details)

@ShadowWarrior1999 Unnecessarily Begging The Question Here, Fellow Comrade.

1. The Arabian Nights Is The Same As Magic:The Gathering as in above the scans I mentioned.

2. Alternate Multiverse Lmao https://youtu.be/ONp4axfobvk. Sonic Said For Erazor To Restore The Worlds Of The Arabian Nights so they can have their *"stories again"*

Sonic Sees the Arabian Nights Multiverse As Fiction, Then The 4th dimensional plane, the bubble universes, then the Precious Stone Is Above Sonic, Then Theres the Perfect Precious Stone And finally MaginaryWorld.

Do I really need to explain why sonic is 6D now?
 
@ShakeResounding

It's definitely turning into an interesting subject, they confuse extension with crossover which are not the same as one another.

And again the Arabian Nights is a multiverse: https://youtu.be/pj7UeKhLpVo.

On top of that, they don't realize that sonic verse has bubble universes as displayed by 4th dimensional plane in sonic Shuffle which would put it on 10D scaling pretty easily based on what michio kaku believes is higher dimensional.
 
ZaStando27 said:
Crossover =\= Extension

Crossover: a point or place of crossing from one side of Fiction to the other/another.

Extension: a part that is added to the Fiction enlarge/prolong it: a continuation.

Except the fact that I mentioned sonic and the secret rings in my initial post...... stop lol. I am explaining the crossover thing-uh-mah-jij in my other posts. And you've just displayed a tu-quoque fallacy to your end, I am correcting you on the misuse of context of what happened, I wasn't displaying Arabian Nights as a crossover, it's actually canon to the Sonic Franchise, an extension that is mentioned once again in Sonic Generations, confirming it's canon.
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First off I already explained that I used crossover incorrectly, you don't need to waste time writing that definition.

Second, no you didn't. I do not see Arabian Nights mentioned in your og CRT board here.

Third, you're correcting me for something that really does not matter. My original point does not have to do with the context if how I used crossover. My point is that the cosmology for a franchise to be connected with other stories is a complicated mess and it needs to be addressed somewhere else. Not here. And because of you bringing this up, this thread has became another discussion of the "connected cosmology" (as I like to call it) for Sonic. When we could have easily discussed the Maginaryworld thing which seems to be more intriguing here.
 
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