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Breaking spacetime ain't a stamina feat like that, especially when you are tier 2, i'm pretty sure eating the life force of billions would be better
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"Tore apart the very texture of the space-time continuum on"
Right after saying that the text says that he did so to make portal into parallel worlds, he didn't destroy the timeline nor did nor notable damage to it, he was just making portals. Even if he wasn't, tearing apart something doesn't always give as much power as destroying all of said something, it can very simply be messing a part of unknown size of it, like if I tear open a hole in a super big thing to enter inside then that's not wrong to word and it doesn't have the same tier as destroying all of it, same case for Galactus.
"a quantum level."
Once again the text clealy puts the scale far lower than what the profile claims.
"Would've destroyed the universe, as well as others, if he wasn't stopped"
It says there that the catastrophe would have been on a global scale and that Earths are what's in danger. If they were they universes then it could be over time.
"Multiple futures were saved when he was defeated"
If true then this wouldn't prove anything and it's not what the scan says or implies by itself.
"and he tore away the space-time separating multiple parallel worlds"
That's not 2-C and he just used clairvoyance.
Right after saying that the text says that he did so to make portal into parallel worlds, he didn't destroy the timeline nor did nor notable damage to it, he was just making portals. Even if he wasn't, tearing apart something doesn't always give as much power as destroying all of said something, it can very simply be messing a part of unknown size of it, like if I tear open a hole in a super big thing to enter inside then that's not wrong to word and it doesn't have the same tier as destroying all of it, same case for Galactus.
"a quantum level."
Once again the text clealy puts the scale far lower than what the profile claims.
"Would've destroyed the universe, as well as others, if he wasn't stopped"
It says there that the catastrophe would have been on a global scale and that Earths are what's in danger. If they were they universes then it could be over time.
"Multiple futures were saved when he was defeated"
If true then this wouldn't prove anything and it's not what the scan says or implies by itself.
"and he tore away the space-time separating multiple parallel worlds"
That's not 2-C and he just used clairvoyance.
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I agree
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this crt
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That doesn't make any sense at all, you don't know the stuff you're talking about and have no reasons to write "Quantum Level" starting in caps as if that meant anything or was a way of doing thing.
Tear away something doesn't give the same tier as destroying the whole thing unless proven, what we see the guy do there is just use clairvoyance, meaning that as far as we know the veil between those universe is still there and he just mess it up a bit to do that. Even if he were to destroy it, what does it matter? Destroying the space between 2 cities doesn't make one able to blow it up+the cities.
Taring apart doesn't mean anything aside from hax here, it's not quantifiable as he doesn't destroy the space-time countuinum. Also stop that dumb use of putting things in caps. Alt. universes being places where he does something means as much as you living in the universe.
He's in process of being downgraded and was somewhat implied to destroy the multiverse.Almost like what Mawgu did.
Mawgu
Making his first appearance in Nicktoons: Battle For Volcano Island, the Mawgu is an ancient villain who was imprisoned long ago. He escaped from his prison and attempted to take all the energy from the Nicktoons Multiverse and destroy it. He corrupts several of the island's inhabitants to serve...vsbattles.fandom.com
This is cringy to read.
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@The_real_cal_howard @DarkDragonMedeus Can I request you evaluate my comment? I don't see myself contributing further in this thread.
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I'm overworked and tied up ATM, but I'm just going to comment on the Quantum level part. That's just Quantum manipulation; which is the most advanced level of matter manipulation as well as time and space manipulation to some extent. And honestly, assuming universal or multiversal tiers based on that alone is whack tbh; and "Warping reality on a multiversal scale" honestly doesn't sound like something that should be on that and with the default that they can do that simply because they have quantum manipulation.
I may look at the other stuff later, but for now; I agree that the "Quantum level" part alone doesn't sound like an AP justification at all.
I may look at the other stuff later, but for now; I agree that the "Quantum level" part alone doesn't sound like an AP justification at all.
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@Eficiente and @DarkDragonMedeus make sense to me. Thank you for helping out.
What, if anything, do you find acceptable to apply here?
What, if anything, do you find acceptable to apply here?
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@Eficiente @DarkDragonMedeus
What do you think would be appropriate to apply here? Or does MikeBro25 seem too inexperienced and unreasonable to properly create the profile page? In that case we might have to close this thread.
What do you think would be appropriate to apply here? Or does MikeBro25 seem too inexperienced and unreasonable to properly create the profile page? In that case we might have to close this thread.
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I only commented on the Quantum level stuff, but otherwise, the Chaos Scepter tearing away universes sounds more like a range feat rather than an AP feat. And I also forgot to mention that "Surviving in outer space" shouldn't grant resistance to extreme cold based on what DontTalkDT said in other threads. The average temperature in the universe is merely 1 K, which is close to absolute zero; but that's mostly because of the places that are AZ due to the absence of matter or air which wouldn't actually grant AZ or cold resistance for other reasons.
Unlike Ice manipulation or other cold areas; most of the reason Cold is considered hazardous is due to the electromagnetic fields and Conductivity that most cold objects, cold airs, and refrigerators have which absorbs or extracts heat from warm objects via electromagnetic energy. But, the outerspace doesn't have even that; so there's nothing actively extracting more heat from your body than your body produces. Although, I forget if Cosmic radiation is still considered legit which I heard it is from others, but not entirely certain.
Other than that, I recall BroKai/MikeBro being relatively okay at editing profiles. Though I do think Eficiente is making more sense mostly regarding the abilities.
Unlike Ice manipulation or other cold areas; most of the reason Cold is considered hazardous is due to the electromagnetic fields and Conductivity that most cold objects, cold airs, and refrigerators have which absorbs or extracts heat from warm objects via electromagnetic energy. But, the outerspace doesn't have even that; so there's nothing actively extracting more heat from your body than your body produces. Although, I forget if Cosmic radiation is still considered legit which I heard it is from others, but not entirely certain.
Other than that, I recall BroKai/MikeBro being relatively okay at editing profiles. Though I do think Eficiente is making more sense mostly regarding the abilities.
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I was going to evaluate this thread after pointing out how the current tier was wrong, so we can't close the thread for it. MikeBro25 is probably good enough if Medeus says so, but telling him what was wrong in the profile seemed impossible and he still thinks he did eveything correct, so I believe things like that could happen in the future and they may take extensive amounts of time to whoever deals with it. So, idk, that's something to look up for.
What new tier should Galactose have?
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There's no reason why TMNT can't be upgraded right now. Frankly, I don't think the moderators' reasons for debunk it are enough.
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Eficiente’s evaluations are solid, Tier 2 should be replaced with “Unknown” unless they have another feat.
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I am not even slightly inclined to conclude he can destroy a timeline or more than one universe by that. There is a lot of improvements to be made in the logic you have, as in, if you show what you have to a regular person they would not conclude the same as you, and that is problematic.
A comparison does nothing and thus should not be used, + Galactus eats planets.
I don't think you are expressing yourself properly here.
You are supposed to be able to express this w/o having to link other threads for others to read to find whatever you're talking about and appeal to what others may have agreed on in the past, in a closed thread. Rend anything isn't the same as destroying all of it and the bigger the thing it the easier it is for one to rend it while affecting less of it, I believe I already told you this notion of common sense. Here we are even explicitly told that this happens due to objects being ripped apart from time & space, making it impossible for it to mean Low 2-C, and the fact that you ignored this is very problematic for your part.
This is the first thing I went over with before, saying it again doesn't make it less wrong because logic. There's also a note about this in the tiering page, unless this thing done to the texture of the space-time continuum were to be = in power to destroying all of it by the verse then it is not Low 2-C.
It is your unlikely headcanon that it's objective that he would feed by eating whole timelines at once. Feeding in certain places simply means that he will do so in those places, that is the more logical thing to take from that per common sense, it takes astronomically more speculation your take. Not to mention that if he wanted to eat timelines then he should have eaten his own.
A comparison does nothing and thus should not be used, + Galactus eats planets.
I already went over this.
It says there that the shard is a piace of the thing that did it.
This is terribly structured, please do not try to convey this again without getting better at it first.
Based on how unbelievableunreliable you are, no I'm not just gonna believe you claiming that, which just so happen to be common wank as most verses don't use that as a black and white term and it at best varies from use to use.
This is the same image as before, and it puts the would-be tragedy at only a global scale.
Do not keep bringing up things that don't matter.
Earth isn't universe in that context, it doesn't matter if he was eating the life force of that place.
It is your unlikely headcanon that it's objective that many futures would have been destroyed and thus they were saved as they weren't destroyed, then the same bit of text can more easily mean that nobody died and so the gang has futures, no even referring to the futures of many other universes based on that image alone.
2-C doesn't even make sense should any of what you had be true.
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It would actually be better to not portray it as if you had infinite tries, you were repetitively unreliable to a very high extend and people like me need to work under limitations like stuff being correct as long as isn't proven incorrect in the single panels you show. If anyone notices this to be more of an issue than what I experienced, which is already pretty bad, I would second any drastic decision to be done about it.
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I believe MikeBro25 to way too unreliable for the wiki and that staff that are more familiar with him should evaluate his contributions on this thread, in my opinion he should just be banned. From his last reply alone he replied to me saying that I won't just believe him a massive proof-less claim in part due to him being unreliable by saying that since I downgraded Bill Cipher to 3-A and people call me unreliable too, then he isn't going to believe what I say either. I can't even picture a literal kid coming up with a logic that childish, it generates me some anxiety having to deal with things like this, let alone knowing they're around in the wiki.
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Anyway, @DarkDragonMedeus and @Amelia_Lonelyheart , would you be willing to help out a bit here please?
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I respect that, but disagree himself.
Ideally a regular user should have just pointed out how this Low 2-C profile of a verse they don't know isn't Low 2-C by saying their reasons and maybe arguing a bit back and forward, here it took me way too much time, I had to be extra careful for innocent lies, had to deconstruct things more than what's reasonable, and had to rely on help to have this finished, if I see this happen again I would first have to see if I had to time to do something like this again and really, really feel like it, just to make a small aport to the wiki, with the easier option being to let it slide. I see this as an issue to be fixed, if a troll who wanted to harm the wiki were to get a bit smarter than to get intandly banned for what they do, it would act like MikeBro25.
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I suppose that is a valid point, but I think that he simply seems biased/overenthusiastic about his favourite franchise and rather inexperienced/incompetent regarding how we do things around here.
Anyway, what do you think that we should do here? Should we close this thread?
Anyway, what do you think that we should do here? Should we close this thread?
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Thank you for the information. Would you or Eficiente be willing to handle it?
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wouldnt he be moon level without this tier 2 stuff?
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Applied. This can be closed.
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switch him to moon level
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did he not destroy a moon? noone had issues with that scaling
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You are not allowed to create new threads about the same topics after the previous ones were rejected.
Absorbing souls is usually unquantifiable. Also, please try to stop being obnoxious.
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Thank you. Is it fine if I close this thread @Eficiente ?
