Gabimaru the Hollow vs Mori Jin

[Yeolban]

yippee

 

[azontr]

Okay so now that we've got that out of the way... how exactly is Mori putting Gabimaru down?

Gabimaru's is literally the face of endurance . From birth, the average Iwagakure Shinobi is put through hellish training, to the point most die from it. Not only that, they are trained to be able to stay awake constantly for over 10 days and still fight. So he's not tiring before Mori does.

His ability to straight-up absorb damage is even better. He can tank dozens of internal damage attacks which reverberate across his entire body, and then immediately set himself on fire, and still fight just fine. He's also capable of having his heart stopped but still surviving.

I don't see how Mori ever puts him down.

 

[Yeolban]

I don't see how Mori ever puts him down.

Nothing really pops up in my head either, so let's leave this one as is for a bit and think in reverse; What does Gabimaru have in his moveset that can bring Mori down?


Or does it resume to an endurance match which ends up in Gabimaru's favor?

 

[azontr]

What does Gabimaru have in his moveset that can bring Mori down?

Probably vaporize him with Ascetic Blaze since Mori lacks the necessary heat resistance in this key.

 

[Yeolban]

Was about to say "what about just paralyzing Gabimaru with acupuncture, since this match wasn't stated to end when 1 of them dies or something", but then remembered this is pretty much just chapter 1 Mori so he doesn't have that...

 

[Yeolban]

Probably vaporize him with Ascetic Blaze since Mori lacks the necessary heat resistance in this key.

Does Mori have the Immortality Type 2 in this key? If he does, couldn't he resist the heat with his immortality?

 

[azontr]

Does Mori have the Immortality Type 2 in this key? If he does, couldn't he resist the heat with his immortality?

Immortality Type 2, which is an immortality that allows one to endure great amounts of injury, doesn't cover getting immediately killed via being vaporized.

This would only come into play if Mori had the necessary resistance feats to circumvent the burns to an extent. Then, the immortality would come into play, because you could make the argument "Oh he's just burned a bit, he can endure it with his immortality".

It does not cover instant death.

 

[Yeolban]

Immortality Type 2, which is an immortality that allows one to endure great amounts of injury, doesn't cover getting immediately killed via being vaporized.

This would only come into play if Mori had the necessary resistance feats to circumvent the burns to an extent. Then, the immortality would come into play, because you could make the argument "Oh he's just burned a bit, he can endure it with his immortality".

It does not cover instant death.

Oh, it's instant;;

Then I don't know, really. Might be Gabimaru's win, nothing's really popping up in my brain...

How does the Ascetic Blaze thing work?

 

[azontr]

How does the Ascetic Blaze thing work?

Gabimaru spits fire at you.

 

[Yeolban]

Gabimaru spits fire at you.

If speed is equalized does that grant Mori the opportunity to dodge? But even then, I guess it'd only come down to a contest of endurance which Gabimaru would ultimately win...

 

[azontr]

If speed is equalized does that grant Mori the opportunity to dodge? But even then, I guess it'd only come down to a contest of endurance which Gabimaru would ultimately win...

Gabimaru just grabs him at spits on him at close range, making dodging impossible.

 

[Yeolban]

Yeah, I don't really see Mori winning this one.

 

[azontr]

Another common Goatmaru The Hollow W.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Huh. Thought this match would be closer than what it turned out to be.

 

[Epiccheev]

I'm ascetic about these results

 

[Second22]

Vote Gabimaru here. Or this stomp

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Don't know if it's a stomp or not.

Does Mori have any win cons?

 

[azontr]

The first step to making this match fair would be to unrestrict Renewal Taekwondo, but to restrict the Kick of the Blue Dragon, which is the only move that has a higher tier than Mori's base stats. The entire fighting style of Renewal Taekwondo doesn't need to be restricted, and it HEAVILY handicaps Mori's abilities in this fight since it is his main arsenal.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I will do exactly that.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Deed has been done.

Y'all can go crazy now.

 

[azontr]

Makes things much simpler.

Now that Mori's main fighting style has been restored, he actually has a chance now. Gabimaru's fire can potentially be straight-up extinguished with the wind pressure some of his Renewal skills make.

The issue of how exactly Mori is going to put Gabi down in the long-run still remains to be an issue. Especially when Gabimaru always goes for the kill, as in, he's going to abuse his AP advantage immediately to just tear out Mori's tendons and joints and immediately permanently disable him.

The AP advantage doesn't seem very high (its only a 2x AP diff and Mori has broken AD), but it's bad when you realize Gabimaru scales to absolutely no-selling the attack he scales to. As in, he took ZERO damage from the attack. And he easily defeated the guy who did the attack with zero effort. Meaning that at the beginning of the fight, Mori is viable to countless forms of immobilization before he adapts, since Gabimaru scales utterly above his value. Gabimaru could very well tear Mori's eyes out or some shit at the beginning of the fight, and leave him blinded the entire time and bleeding out.

 

[azontr]

I'd also like to point out Gabimaru is WAY more skilled H2H wise. His skill feats are straight up uncanny. Here's I list I made beforehand:

• Inherited the title of "Gabimaru The Hollow at a young age, which is the title given to the strongest Shinobi in Iwagakure village, possessing talent that put him far above any Iwagakure Shinobi. Note that Iwagakure Shinobi are trained in how to kill from birth, and only the best of the best will survive the training, with Gabimaru having been training since he was a baby.
• Is a master of prediction, spacing and positioning, and can easily skill stomp several Iwagakure Shinobi.
• Can see through a Transformation Jutsu that alters one's voice and musculature.
• Can read several dozen steps ahead into a battle, and can decipher his opponent's condition just from their stance
• Can instinctively contort his body to dodge attacks coming from his blind spots, and his Ninja training has been drilled into him so much he can fight without thinking
• While his hands were bound, he effortlessly skewered a Warrior Monk who'd mastered over 100 weapons and killed several skilled Samurai with his own weapons without being hit once, calling it a "waste of time".
• Caught dozens of arrows and launched them back perfectly at the people who'd shot them at him while his vision was obscured both by pitch darkness and liquid he'd thrown
• His attacks are considered to be flawless by Shinobi like Shija, who is so familiar with Gabimaru's fighting style she can read his thoughts.
• Is capable of, with sheer skill, contend with one of the Lord Tensen, who have trained in Tao for over 1000 years. Tao allows someone to read the flow of one's life force and predict their movements, and Gabimaru can contend with one of the most proficient users of this precognition without having unlocked Tao himself, simply with H2H skill.
• Is comparable to if not stronger than Shugen, who absorbs and processes information like no other, and can fight with such precision that he can copy fighting styles to the point it seems as if the person he is copying possessed him.
• Instantly became able to use Tao from a brief explanation, being compared to one of the Lord Tensen in his proficiency despite them having trained over 1000 years in Tao
• Can contend with both Shugen and Rien at the same time, with Rien having Tao mastery and future sight incomparable to any of the Lord Tensen, and has grasped the truths of the physical world and the only thing she hasn't grasped is the higher-plane

 

[RandomGuy2345]

And I here I thought it was a good idea to pit WWE mfs against this guy smh.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Instantly became able to use Tao from a brief explanation, being compared to one of the Lord Tensen in his proficiency despite them having trained over 1000 years in Tao

Anime MC moment.

 

[SeijiSetto]

I'd also like to point out Gabimaru is WAY more skilled H2H wise. His skill feats are straight up uncanny. Here's I list I made beforehand:

• Inherited the title of "Gabimaru The Hollow at a young age, which is the title given to the strongest Shinobi in Iwagakure village, possessing talent that put him far above any Iwagakure Shinobi. Note that Iwagakure Shinobi are trained in how to kill from birth, and only the best of the best will survive the training, with Gabimaru having been training since he was a baby.
• Is a master of prediction, spacing and positioning, and can easily skill stomp several Iwagakure Shinobi.
• Can see through a Transformation Jutsu that alters one's voice and musculature.
• Can read several dozen steps ahead into a battle, and can decipher his opponent's condition just from their stance
• Can instinctively contort his body to dodge attacks coming from his blind spots, and his Ninja training has been drilled into him so much he can fight without thinking
• While his hands were bound, he effortlessly skewered a Warrior Monk who'd mastered over 100 weapons and killed several skilled Samurai with his own weapons without being hit once, calling it a "waste of time".
• Caught dozens of arrows and launched them back perfectly at the people who'd shot them at him while his vision was obscured both by pitch darkness and liquid he'd thrown
• His attacks are considered to be flawless by Shinobi like Shija, who is so familiar with Gabimaru's fighting style she can read his thoughts.
• Is capable of, with sheer skill, contend with one of the Lord Tensen, who have trained in Tao for over 1000 years. Tao allows someone to read the flow of one's life force and predict their movements, and Gabimaru can contend with one of the most proficient users of this precognition without having unlocked Tao himself, simply with H2H skill.
• Is comparable to if not stronger than Shugen, who absorbs and processes information like no other, and can fight with such precision that he can copy fighting styles to the point it seems as if the person he is copying possessed him.
• Instantly became able to use Tao from a brief explanation, being compared to one of the Lord Tensen in his proficiency despite them having trained over 1000 years in Tao
• Can contend with both Shugen and Rien at the same time, with Rien having Tao mastery and future sight incomparable to any of the Lord Tensen, and has grasped the truths of the physical world and the only thing she hasn't grasped is the higher-plane

the rare anime mc who's skill has breached into the levels of chinamen

 

[Nierre]

I'd also like to point out Gabimaru is WAY more skilled H2H wise

This is definitely a take.

Ik this an earlier key of Mori but its crazy to see someone make this statement, and not think it's sarcasm or a joke haha

 

[azontr]

This is definitely a take.

Ik this an earlier key of Mori but its crazy to see someone make this statement, and not think it's sarcasm or a joke haha

Just look at his feats. They are straight-up uncanny chinaman shit.

 

[SeijiSetto]

This is definitely a take.

Ik this an earlier key of Mori but its crazy to see someone make this statement, and not think it's sarcasm or a joke haha

Azontr is unironically one of, if not THE biggest Mori Jin meat rider on this site. If he says Mori gets outskilled I'm inclined to believe him - ignoring the fact that there's a demonstrated sheet of Gabimaru's skill feats and they're goofy as hell.

 

[azontr]

I mean if I need to go into more detail about why Gabimaru is far more skilled, I can make an explanation post about my analysis.

 

[Epiccheev]

Yeah, since you offered it for free with no charge.

 

[azontr]

I did not expect somebody to accept my offer.

I will see if I can write it out later tonight or tomorrow.

 

[Second22]

I have question, Does Jin Mori's fear manipulation affect Gabimaru since Gabimaru has no resistance?

 

[azontr]

Basic fear manipulation in GoH only works on significantly weaker opponents, and Gabimaru is over twice as strong as Mori.

 

[Second22]

Basic fear manipulation in GoH only works on significantly weaker opponents, and Gabimaru is over twice as strong as Mori.

If we don't change anything and Jin can use 8-B with Re-Taekwondo, will Gabimaru be afraid?

 

[azontr]

8-B comes from one (1) technique, so that's doubtful.

 

[Second22]

8-B comes from one (1) technique, so that's doubtful.

Thank you for the response.

 

[Second22]

Basic fear manipulation in GoH only works on significantly weaker opponents, and Gabimaru is over twice as strong as Mori.

If reading from this thread, does Fear manipulation still affect Gabimaru, since Fear manipulation can affect someone stronger than oneself?

 

[azontr]

Idk what that's meant to link to but the link is broken.

 

[Second22]

Idk what that's meant to link to but the link is broken.

God of Highschool - a majorly minor change to Fear Manipulation

The basic premise of this thread is that the current Fear Manipulation standards for the verse are bad and we should change them. Short version for lazy people: The current interpretation for Fear Manip in the verse is stinky, makes no sense, and we should change it. I have 2 options of how...

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[azontr]

Dumbass thread.

Anyways, even assuming that Mori's fear manipulation is not only delegated to weaker opponents, it doesn't do much but startle the opponent. Gabimaru won't be pissing his pants over Mori's fear manipulation, he'll probably ignore it all together.