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Funny Bone Man against a supersoldier

this is a baki character so im assuming they're skilled as ****.

that mind-reading/Analytical Prediction is useless since sans will be able to dodge his attacks regardless. he's skilled with dodging attacks even when his opponent is aware of where he'll be.

sans has a Hax, intelligence, reaction speed and LS advantage

does Gaia have any work with dodging danmaku?
 
that mind-reading/Analytical Prediction is useless since sans will be able to dodge his attacks regardless. he's skilled with dodging attacks even when his opponent is aware of where he'll be.
Actually that's more useful on Gaia's end for the purpose of dodging instead of hitting
 
ah, alright. cool.

sans range spams as usual, and Gaia is a skilled melee fighter who doesn't seem to have any prior skills with dodging mass of danmaku.
Uh, this is basically precog

Didn't Pinkie stomp that last match because she had that?
 
Didn't Pinkie stomp that last match because she had that?
Teleportion, better Stamina, and AoE Explosion ****** Sans over due to his "I literally die in one hit" thingy he has. Gaia doesn't have this advantage. He also possibly gets ragdolled by Sans' TP due to the funny bone man's superior LS.
 
He also possibly gets ragdolled by Sans' TP due to the funny bone man's superior LS.
Yeah, Sans' first in character move is literally pancaking with TK. And if (somehow) the danmaku doesn't work on Gaia, Sans will just ragdoll him against the walls like what he did when he got frustrated against Frisk.
 
Sans can also teleport people into his attacks, so that's an option too.
Can everyone please stop ******* using that as a point I'm getting sick of seeing it in every Undertale related topic. No, there is never a time when he just straight up makes a projectile in your soul. You're talking about when the screen blacks out and you're suddenly faced with a number of attacks you CAN dodge.

This is where precog comes in handy since the most dangerous part of that is the shock from suddenly facing that
Sans will just ragdoll him against the walls like what he did when he got frustrated against Frisk.
But you see that's the problem, his ragdolling is where the 9-A comes from and is the one thing he ends up with once tired. If Frisk is on full health, Sans can't even kill them with his final attack

Combine that with precog assisted dodging and some upscaling and it's very possible Gaia can just tank that last attack. Not to mention he does an adrenaline based amp and that stuff can keep someone from getting knocked out
 
Can everyone please stop ******* using that as a point I'm getting sick of seeing it in every Undertale related topic. No, there is never a time when he just straight up makes a projectile in your soul. You're talking about when the screen blacks out and you're suddenly faced with a number of attacks you CAN dodge.
Show me a time when Gaia has dealt with mass danmaku and teleportation?
But you see that's the problem, his ragdolling is where the 9-A comes from and is the one thing he ends up with once tired. If Frisk is on full health, Sans can't even kill them with his final attack
It goes a little over half of their hp.
Combine that with precog assisted dodging and some upscaling and it's very possible Gaia can just tank that last attack. Not to mention he does an adrenaline based amp and that stuff can keep someone from getting knocked out
Tank attacks that ignore durability?
 
this is a baki character so im assuming they're skilled as ****.

that mind-reading/Analytical Prediction is useless since sans will be able to dodge his attacks regardless. he's skilled with dodging attacks even when his opponent is aware of where he'll be.

sans has a Hax, intelligence, reaction speed and LS advantage

does Gaia have any work with dodging danmaku?
Scan please.I dont remember sans doing such a feat
 
Scan please.I dont remember sans doing such a feat
quite literally on the page.
JYRsSUs.jpg

and heres the link from where that feat comes from

(its literally the entire sans fight he shows this feat)
 
quite literally on the page.
JYRsSUs.jpg

and heres the link from where that feat comes from

(its literally the entire sans fight he shows this feat)

I'm gonna be honest, this looks more like a speed feat than anything else, sans was just too fast for frisk to catch him even when she/he knew what would he do, he/she simply could not keep up with it sans combat speed.


also, I feel like the always knew where he would be part is an assumption, it was never really shown that frisk always knew where sans would be, in the gameplay such thing was never even implied
 
I'm gonna be honest, this looks more like a speed feat than anything else, sans was just too fast for frisk to catch him even when she/he knew what would he do, he/she simply could not keep up with it sans combat speed.
why would sans be faster than frisk? that makes literally zero sense.
also, I feel like the always knew where he would be part is an assumption, it was never really shown that frisk always knew where sans would be, in the gameplay such thing was never even implied
if you reverse time from being killed someone and fight them again, you know exactly where they're going to be next. that's how remembering stuff works.
 
why would sans be faster than frisk? that makes literally zero sense.
“Able to consistently tag Frisk during the Genocide Route. Most of his attacks are faster than Frisk boosted by Sea Tea

the profiles stated that sans attacks attacks are faster than frisk with a speed boost, implying way superior combat speed

not only that but the wiki stated that the only way that frisk can dodge sans gaster blasters is via aim dodging(again, sans has superior combat speed)


not only that, sans is hypersonic + while frisk is hypersonic, so even in the profiles the wiki confirms that sans reaction speed is faster than frisk.

Also, the image that u sent kinda confirms what I'm saying here. The text that u screenshotted is in the speed section. so the wiki also considers that feat as a speed feat for sans, so sans>>>>frisk in speed.

if you reverse time from being killed someone and fight them again, you know exactly where they're going to be next. that's how remembering stuff works.
Ok I forgot about the save and load mechanic, but if said guy is WAY faster than you ur not catching him even if u know what he is going to do next, just because someone knows exactly what is gonna happen next does not mean he can avoid a speed blitz from someone way faster than him like wally west or flashy flash.
 
“Able to consistently tag Frisk during the Genocide Route. Most of his attacks are faster than Frisk boosted by Sea Tea
all of those things refer to his magic, not sans himself.
not only that, sans is hypersonic + while frisk is hypersonic, so even in the profiles the wiki confirms that sans reaction speed is faster than frisk.
reaction speed, not actual speed.
Also, the image that u sent kinda confirms what I'm saying here. The text that u screenshotted is in the speed section. so the wiki also considers that feat as a speed feat for sans, so sans>>>>frisk in speed.
reaction speed, not actual speed. right before that you clearly see the rating for his regular speed.
Ok I forgot about the save and load mechanic, but if said guy is WAY faster than you ur not catching him even if u know what he is going to do next, just because someone knows exactly what is gonna happen next does not mean he can avoid a speed blitz from someone way faster than him like wally west or flashy flash.
sans cant speed blitz frisk.
 
all of those things refer to his magic, not sans himself.
It applies to his attacks, so it kinda affects his combat speed too


reaction speed, not actual speed.

reaction speed, not actual speed. right before that, you see the rating for his regular speed.

his reaction speed is what determines how fast he can react and dodge

if his reaction speed is above the frisk's speed, then the frisk will never be able to land a hit on sans.

and that is what we see here, sans have hypersonic+ reaction speed while frisk attack speed is hypersonic

there is a clear speed gap between the two

and again, the dodging feat is on the speed section, so in this wiki, the feat is seen as a reaction speed feat, not as a "dodging skill" feat



sans cant speed blitz frisk.

ye he can't, but his reaction speed is still faster than frisk's attack speed
 
It applies to his attacks, so it kinda affects his combat speed too
no. he's implied to be slower than frisk throughout the fight.
his reaction speed is what determines how fast he can react and dodge

if his reaction speed is above the frisk's speed, then the frisk will never be able to land a hit on sans.

and that is what we see here, sans have hypersonic+ reaction speed while frisk attack speed is hypersonic

there is a clear speed gap between the two

and again, the dodging feat is on the speed section, so in this wiki, the feat is seen as a reaction speed feat, not as a "dodging skill" feat
yes. that's how reaction speeds work.

frisk still knows where he'll dodge to, irrelevant.

yes, good on you for reading. that means he can dodge attacks from someone who knows where he'll be and still avoid it.

yes. thank you for reading.

unless you're misinterpreting this, it's a dodging skill in the speed section, referring to his higher reaction speed.
 
Sans doesn't speed blitz. but his blasters are faster than Gaia, which he does start with that
"Hypersonic attack speed (Able to consistently tag Frisk during the Genocide Route. Most of his attacks are faster than Frisk boosted by Sea Tea)"

"Supersonic (Likely faster than Sikorsky)"

Sans > Frisk = Mach 6.1
Gaia > Sikorsky = At least Mach 1.06 Likely Mach 1.1

How is Gaia able to tag Sans?, Sans is over 5.54 times faster.

And i know Sans doesn't instakill but he's able to kill Chara in a very short time using dura negation, Gaia hasn't any wincon here.
 
Ha Ha Bone Pun : 0
Go search "Dark Tunnel Baki" : 0
Incon : 0

Speed equalized
Fight takes place in the Gobi Desert, 10 meters apart
Third Key Gaia used
"Hypersonic attack speed (Able to consistently tag Frisk during the Genocide Route. Most of his attacks are faster than Frisk boosted by Sea Tea)"

"Supersonic (Likely faster than Sikorsky)"

Sans > Frisk = Mach 6.1
Gaia > Sikorsky = At least Mach 1.06 Likely Mach 1.1

How is Gaia able to tag Sans?, Sans is over 5.54 times faster.

And i know Sans doesn't instakill but he's able to kill Chara in a very short time using dura negation, Gaia hasn't any wincon here.
 
Damn, i always forget about equalized speed, anyways in that case Gaia can easily dodge Sans attacks due to basically predicting his opponent movements, which allowed him to dodge all of Baki's attacks, even when the later was equal to him in terms of speed, Gaia can also use camouflage so Sans can't perceive him.

Sans has superior LS which can help him with Telekinesis but this will tire him out very soon, plus Gaia will always know Sans plans since he can literally read his mind.

So with equalized speed, Gaia should win unless Sans uses telekinesis on him and can restrain him enough to make considerable damage.

Anyways, Gaia has advantage.
 
Damn, i always forget about equalized speed, anyways in that case Gaia can easily dodge Sans attacks due to basically predicting his opponent movements, which allowed him to dodge all of Baki's attacks, even when the later was equal to him in terms of speed, Gaia can also use camouflage so Sans can't perceive him.
Easily? just because you can read someone's mind doesn't mean you can easily dodge something you have never encountered, that'd only apply here if sans was using a sword here, and was slashing somewhere.

this danmaku, meaning he can't just say 'haha that's gonna go there when there are 100 bones coming at him, that simply isn't how it works. if he reads sans' mind and sees he's gonna get attacked with a horde of bones, he'll know where bones will appear, but he'll have no idea where they'll go, as the bones seem to move on their own.

camouflage is useless since if he tries to throw sand around and then begins covering himself in said stuff, he'll just get ripped apart by bones while he's stuck doing that.
Sans has superior LS which can help him with Telekinesis but this will tire him out very soon, plus Gaia will always know Sans plans since he can literally read his mind.
When has his telekenesis EVER tired him out fast besides the one time he uses enough power to injure frisk, which was at the end of the fight. moot point. knowing what sans' plan doesn't help when you can't even fight his plan, which is to throw him into a sea of bones (which he starts with)
So with equalized speed, Gaia should win unless Sans uses telekinesis on him and can restrain him enough to make considerable damage.
starts with, doesn't need to do a considerable amount of damage.
 
Easily? just because you can read someone's mind doesn't mean you can easily dodge something you have never encountered, that'd only apply here if sans was using a sword here, and was slashing somewhere.

this danmaku, meaning he can't just say 'haha that's gonna go there when there are 100 bones coming at him, that simply isn't how it works. if he reads sans' mind and sees he's gonna get attacked with a horde of bones, he'll know where bones will appear, but he'll have no idea where they'll go, as the bones seem to move on their own.

camouflage is useless since if he tries to throw sand around and then begins covering himself in said stuff, he'll just get ripped apart by bones while he's stuck doing that.
He literally did that with Baki who was just as fast as him, and Baki tried attacking him in the most unespected ways a ton of times, it didn't work, he was only able to hit him with insctinctual abilities (because that's unconcious so Gaia can't read it, Sans doesn't have that), knowing attack patterns before they happen + camouflage = Sans perfect counter

The rest of the comment is just pointless, the fight with Frisk was relatively fast and even with that Sans was so tired that he literally fell asleep, Sans has normal human stamina at best, and if he fells asleep fighting against someone slower who doesn't has technique, imagine against Gaia, is completely ridicolous say that Sans will keep up for more than a few minutes.
 
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He literally did that with Baki who was just as fast as him, and Baki tried attacking him in the most unespected ways a ton of times, it didn't work, he was only able to hit him with insctinctual abilities (because that's unconcious so Gaia can't read it, Sans doesn't have that), knowing attack patterns before they happen + camouflage = Sans perfect counter
Where is sans' physical weapon that can be telegraphed? oh wait he doesn't have one and you're ignoring the part where 'the bones are moving on their own so you can't just read where they're going to be through someone who's not doing shit with them'

yeah **** off with that shit.
The rest of the comment is just pointless, the fight with Frisk was relatively fast
what does this have to do with anything?
even with that Sans was so tired that he literally fell asleep, Sans has normal human stamina at best, and if he fells asleep fighting against someone slower who doesn't has technique
Frisk was faster than sans by the time he fell asleep, irrelevant.
imagine against Gaia, is completely ridicolous say that Sans will keep up for more than a few minutes.
Lolreact? hey buddy did you miss where sans has a reaction speed advantage?
 
'the bones are moving on their own so you can't just read where they're going to be through someone who's not doing shit with them'
How do you know they move on their own?
Frisk was faster than sans by the time he fell asleep, irrelevant.
How do you know this too?
Lolreact? hey buddy did you miss where sans has a reaction speed advantage?
Yeah, like, where did that come from? gap is from 6.1 to 10, i've seen much higher gaps not being uploaded, why does Sans has Hypersonic+ reactions? that seems like a wank.
 
How do you know they move on their own?
because thats how like, 99% of his magic works? hell most magic in undertale seem to work on their own to an extent (Froggit's attacks seem to be completely independent to it to an extent, Toriel is a great example of this, who can accidentally kill you when you fight her [she only purposefully avoids you if you're one shot before her turn], Papyrus' bones seem to manually change size from papyrus, but besides that they seem to glide on their own)
 
How do you know this too?
"Sans's movements seem to be slower." menu after fighting 4 times.
Yeah, like, where did that come from? gap is from 6.1 to 10, i've seen much higher gaps not being uploaded, why does Sans has Hypersonic+ reactions? that seems like a wank.
Being able to dodge an attack from someone who KNOWS WHERE YOU WILL BE means you have the reaction speed to avoid an attack thats coming at you that would be usually unavoidable without a higher reaction speed

basically;

character A attacks where character B will be because they know where they will be there, since they have time manip, Character B gets out of the way regardless, meaning they have higher reaction speeds to react to character A attacking where they are supposed to be
 
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because thats how like, 99% of his magic works? hell most magic in undertale seem to work on their own to an extent (Froggit's attacks seem to be completely independent to it to an extent, Toriel is a great example of this, who can accidentally kill you when you fight her [she only purposefully avoids you if you're one shot before her turn], Papyrus' bones seem to manually change size from papyrus, but besides that they seem to glide on their own)
So basically headcannon based on supposition, nice.
"Sans's movements seem to be slower." menu after fighting 4 times.
Dude, reaction speed and attack speed aren't the same, Sans has Hypersonic Attack Speed and higher Reaction Speed, if you use this argument you will nerf his reaction.
Being able to dodge an attack from someone who KNOWS WHERE YOU WILL BE means you have the reaction speed to avoid an attack thats coming at you that would be usually unavoidable without a higher reaction speed

basically;

character A attacks where character B will be because they know where they will be there, since they have time manip, Character B gets out of the way regardless, meaning they have higher reaction speeds to react to character A attacking where they are supposed to be
Still not being enough for Mach 10, is a hell of a gap, in most fictional verses that would be an instant blitz but Frisk was able to hit Sans via suprising him which wouldn't be possible with that stupidly huge gap, the difference isn't that big at all.

And that "Frisk attacking where Frisk know Sans will be" is just supposition, i mean, is possible, but nothing indicates that happened.
 
So basically headcannon based on supposition, nice.
Did you miss where i blatantly showed you they usually dont control their magic's movement with toriel killing you (who didn't want to do that.) atleast read the replies before you respond.
Dude, reaction speed and attack speed aren't the same, Sans has Hypersonic Attack Speed and higher Reaction Speed, if you use this argument you will nerf his reaction.
Sans physically moving slower will effect his reaction speed? christ almighty atleast try to understand what you're saying first.
Still not being enough for Mach 10, is a hell of a gap, in most fictional verses that would be an instant blitz but Frisk was able to hit Sans via suprising him which wouldn't be possible with that stupidly huge gap, the difference isn't that big at all.
now you're not even understanding how frisk killed him. sans was only ever killed once frisk broke the rules of the verse to hit him, and he was completely out of energy at that point. hell, sans STILL reacts to him being attacked before he's truly hit, he was just too tired to move.
 
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