Fu Xiaoli vs Rimuru

[Elizhaa]

I don't "think" though, i argue.

• Got it.

He is not scared of dying, not he wants to die. He realizes that he will die if he starts the fight. Why would he start that fight? Not being scared to die would apply if there was any reason to pick up the fight in the first place.

• I think it was pointed out he still would fight even he know he would die; Rimuru would at least trying to seriously injure the opponent. Rimuru just wouldn't do anything as it would be out of character.

At this point, I would say leave this point to being voted on by others as I said in my last reply.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Yeah, leaving it to the voters, I feel this'll just go in circles.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I think it was pointed out he still would fight even he know he would die

Nah, those were all "he could die" not "will die"

 

[KageSakaDark]

Elizhaa, would the first fight with Hinata determine how Rimuru would act if he knew that he was going to die?

 

[Elizhaa]

I think I already explained my view on the will and would case earlier; "will" in this fight case is largely incorrect since Fu can't kill Rimuru since I am just using would for accuracy case in this fight topic, overall. At this point, I would just wait for the vote.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

I think I already explained my view on the will and would case earlier; "will" in this fight case is largely incorrect since Fu can't kill Rimuru since I am just using would for accuracy case in this fight topic, overall.

Ok but whether Fu can or not is not sth Rimuru knows. So you are going by a mentality RImuru would not have.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Yeah, leaving it to the voters, I feel this'll just go in circles.

Not necessarily but feel free to think so.

 

[Elizhaa]

Elizhaa, would the first fight with Hinata determine how Rimuru would act if he knew that he was going to die?

No, the first fight he flees. From the events in the Harvest Festival. Rimuru changed his mindset; he said he would fight even he could die. Also, evidence pointed out that Rimuru fought knowing he will die in an alternative timeline given that opponents against the Empire, given that Great Sage can predict the future in battle.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Also, evidence pointed out that Rimuru fought knowing he will die in an alternative timeline

When?

 

[Ionliosite]

Earl, you look to be the only one who thinks Rimuru will not take action because of fear of death.

What? No, Rimuru won't be able to take action at all due to the Desperado aura, there's absolutely no reason he wouldn't be affected by it since he doesn't resist Fatehax that works on Type 4 Acausals.

 

[Elizhaa]

What? No, Rimuru won't be able to take action at all due to the Desperado aura, there's absolutely no reason he wouldn't be affected by it since he doesn't resist Fatehax that works on Type 4 Acausals.

I was more discussing the mentality of Rimuru and how it would relate to Raphael acting, regarding one of Earl's arguments. I already agree with your reasonings on how Rimuru via Raphael will win the fight.
Apologies if the text is confusing. I will try to improve the text later when I wake up.

 

[Elizhaa]

When?

It is in Volume 11 Chapter 5; it is said that Rimuru died. Likewise, I said evidence points toward Rimuru knowing of his death because Rimuru used Great Sage's precognitive ability in battle or in character. precognitive ability has scan on the profile.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

How the f did Rimuru die if he's still alive?

Also that's....again just a chance rather than a certainty

 

[Elizhaa]

How the f did Rimuru die if he's still alive?

Also that's....again just a chance rather than a certainty

An "alternative version from another time" of his first key died; I thought the point was kind of clear since Patricio and I mentioned it earlier.

The MTLs Volume 12 said Veldora rampage because Rimuru specifically died; other evidence points that he [alternate timeline self] died in Volume 11. So, evidence point that Rimuru died.

In any case, Earl, your arguments should probably on Raphael since Rimuru would mostly be nonfactor currently.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Why does that scale to normal rimuru? Not that it matters cus as i said it's not certainty.

In any case, Earl, your arguments should probably on Raphael since Rimuru would mostly be nonfactor currently.

I explained why Raphael is a non factor too.

 

[Elizhaa]

Why does that scale to normal rimuru? Not that it matters cus as i said it's not certainty.


I explained why Raphael is a non factor too.

On this topic, I think you explained why Raphael will not do anything; it is extremely out of character that Raphael would not try much as explained above. So, I don't think the points were stronger than the counterarguments on the matter.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

it is extremely out of character that Raphael

Not exactly. Raphael has never been in that situation before, so you can't say what is or isn't in character for her at that point.

 

[Ionliosite]

I explained why Raphael is a non factor too.

How is Raphael, you know, the one Xiaoli can't even affect, a non-factor?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Cus Raphael wants to follow Rimuru's wish, and Rimuru wouldn't want to die. Not to mention Raphael due to info analysis would be more sold on the fact that Rimuru's chances are absolutely 0 against Xiaoli.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Cus Raphael wants to follow Rimuru's wish, and Rimuru wouldn't want to die. Not to mention Raphael due to info analysis would be more sold on the fact that Rimuru's chances are absolutely 0 against Xiaoli.

Again, Rimuru is not scared to die. If he is not scared to die, she won't move him. Coupled with the fact that Raphael would be more interested in her powers after analysis (which is what led her to through him into an EE), Raphael will not move him.

 

[Ionliosite]

This is legit just going in circles since neither side is listening to the other's arguments...

 

[Firephoenixearl]

This is legit just going in circles

Just vote at this point.

 

[00potato]

Hmmmmm
Rimuru fra.

 

[Ionliosite]

Just vote at this point.

... I already voted Rimuru.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

... I already voted Rimuru.

It was meant at everybody, not at you specifically.

 

[Shmooply]

Rimuru FRA.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Guys i said vote, not joke around. These are 4 pages of stuff. At least bother stating which one you're agreeing with.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Rimuru FRA.

 

[Zencha9]

Rimuru FRA.

 

[Mister6ame6]

Rimuru FRA.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Rimuru FRA baby~

 

[Revaret]

Grace

 

[Elizhaa]

Looking at Raphael's arguments being voted on, wouldn't the match like a stomp thread overall since Fu can't kill nor affect it?
I am removing my vote since I think the thread could be a stomp thread.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

If it's a stomp, then Rimuru can just be placed above Fu on the list, if she's on it.

 

[Ionliosite]

Guys i said vote, not joke around. These are 4 pages of stuff. At least bother stating which one you're agreeing with.

I'm voting for my own reasons, and since everyone is FRAing after what I said, I assume they're FRAing me. Seriously tho, I hate when people don't even say who they're FRAing when they vote.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Pretty much, I had voted earlier but I voted again just to make sure.

 

[Makenai]

LMAO

 

[ChosenOrDeath]

Rimuru FRA

 

[Ionliosite]

People FRAing on an outdated match, wonderful.

 

[ChosenOrDeath]

Unneeded sarcasm, wonderful.