FSN Assassin vs Kurogane Ikki

[Gemmysaur]

The Nameless Swordsma, Sasaki Kojiro vs The Uncrowned Sword King, Kurogane Ikki

All stats equalized.

A match of Skill.

Ittou Razetsu is locked since it amps Ikki's stats by 100.

Standard Equipment.

In-character

Scenario: They both heard of a master swordsman and wants to see how they fair.

Location:


VS Map Gakusen Toshi

 

[NotEvenHuman]

Shit, this is actually really f*cking hard.

Sasaki's profile says that he has an "aura of serenity" that prevents people reading his style. I don't know how that works, but if it prevents reading his style, Blade Steal is useless, and Perfect Vision is nerfed. Usually i would give the win to Sasaki due to Tsubame Gaeshi, but Ikki has too many countermeasures for that to work. Sasaki has Precognition, and Ikki... kinda has it, too. Precognition makes Trackless Step, Shinkirou and Dokuga no Tachi useless. I don't know who to vote for.

I say inconclusive for now.

 

[KamiYasha]

Sasaki without problem.

 

[Reppuzan]

I give it to Sasaki due to having such god-like skill that he bends reality just by swinging his sword.

Ikki is good, but not quite as good as someone like Sasaki who single-mindedly spent his life trying to kill a Swallow, reaching the realm of True Magic in the process.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Sasaki : 2

Inconclusive : 1

Kurogane : 0

Bump.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

Ikki is good, but not quite as good as someone like Sasaki who single-mindedly spent his life trying to kill a Swallow, reaching the realm of True Magic in the process.

Switching my vote to "Sasaki after a good fight" after this. I didn't know he had reached True Magic.

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Sasaki due to godlike sword skills and Tsubame Gaeshi.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Bump.

 

[Yamatohime]

Kojiro managed to reach Divine skills with simple USELESS (he said it himself that it was useless technique for practice) sword technique, his martial art skills are enough to hide his presence and conceal his technique. So I think Kojiro...

 

[Alakabamm]

Sasaki, he is not a real servant but he is still quite legendary and comes with all of the numerous buffs of an average servant.

Plus, his sword skill is not something Ikki can counter at close range.

 

[KamiYasha]

he said it himself that it was useless technique for practice

He has an OCD so magnificent that it breaks space-time.

 

[Gemmysaur]

I see. A landslide it seems. I thought that maybe Ikki has a good fight with his hyper-perception powers that amps his motion perception in exchange for color perception, as well as Zeroserker-esque skill with multiple weapons that allows him things like gripping his sword near the center of the blade to increase his combat speed to that of someone wielding a tanto instead of a katana.

Also, only Ittou Razetsu is locked. Ittou Shura still allows for x10 stats except durability.

6 - 0 at the moment. Should I add this as a win for Sasaki or should I wait for a 7th vote?

 

[Yamatohime]

If Kojiro start TG even Instinct of A level won't help you. It just show you how you gonna die.

 

[Gemmysaur]

But Tsubame Gaeshi does have a starting pose so I think that's something. Also, what of Ittou Shura? Assassin is not the only one with a trump card. If both of them are at Mach 1.8 due to speed equal, Ittou Shura makes it Mach 18, what of then?

 

[Yamatohime]

Well, he probably can keep up for minute with his Fake Eye of the Mind, since his Knowledge of Respect and Harmony will disable enemy battle precognition.

 

[Gemmysaur]

I see. So what do I do with this thread? Should i add the victory or wait for a last vote for Sasaki?

 

[NotEvenHuman]

Tsubame Gaeshi gets lolnoped by Ten'i Muhou. Even if that doesn't work, Ikki already defended against 2 simultaneous attacks in his fight with Kuraudo. If Sasaki manages to use TG, he's only getting one slash in, and that's not enough to put Ikki down. Ikki can also troll Sasaki with Shinkirou, and even if he doesn't have his precog, he does know a style completely focused on counters. Just saying. Still, Ikki has precognition works by reading the opponent's muscle movement. Does Knowledge of Respect and Harmony work on that? And if Ittou Shura is allowed, i don't see how Sasaki could deal with that.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Are you changing vote or just stating?

 

[NotEvenHuman]

Are you changing vote or just stating?

Changing the vote now that IS is allowed. Precog and skill are just not enough to close a 10x gap in speed and strenght, IMO.

 

[Gemmysaur]

I never disabled it in the first place. I only disabled Razetsu.

All stats equalized.

A match of Skill.

Ittou Razetsu is locked since it amps Ikki's stats by 100.

Anyway, 5-1 in favor of Sasaki for now.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Just saying. Still, Ikki has precognition works by reading the opponent's muscle movement. Does Knowledge of Respect and Harmony work on that?
Yes it does. Knowledge of Respect and Harmony makes that his moves cannot be perceived no matter you skill and no matter how many times they are demonstrated. This proved difficult for Saber when they fought given that she has a Precognition so strong, it borders on predicting the near future.

Also due to the skill of Vitrification B+, Sasaki can conceal his presence due to his calm spirit, lack of prana and a true Noble Phantasm.

With these said, I think Assassin takes this.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

@ScarletFirefly How good is his presence concealment? I know the skill itself is rank D, but Vitrification simulates PC to some extent, right?

 

[ScarletFirefly]

@ScarletFirefly How good is his presence concealment? I know the skill itself is rank D, but Vitrification simulates PC to some extent, right?

Actually he does not gain the class ability of Presence Concealment due to not being a true Servant Assassin, but he does have the ability on his own, although a bit weaker. He can "cut off his presence", he can merge with his surroundings. This made it harder to detect him, even for a Servant.

Also he can sustain heavy wounds even without Battle Continuation because of his strong spirit alignment.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

@ScarletFirefly Merging with surroundings isn't really going to help here.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

@ScarletFirefly Merging with surroundings isn't really going to help here.

Not it won't, not by itself that is. I mean that he can conceal his presence to to lack of prana and a real NP (think DBZ kind of Ki concealment or the Androids). Meaning that, if Sasaki goes out of sight for even a second, you lose him unless you can see him again. I did not mean conceal in the environment as some kind of camoflage, I meant it conceal because of lack of prana, meaning there's no energy signature to look out for.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

Again, that doesn't really help.

1. Ikki can't sense any kind of energy.

2. This is a sword fight with stats equalized. If Sasaki somehow manages to get out of Ikki's view, it probably won't last long enough for him to do a stealth attack.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

Again, that doesn't really help.
1. Ikki can't sense any kind of energy.

2. This is a sword fight with stats equalized. If Sasaki somehow manages to get out of Ikki's view, it probably won't last long enough for him to do a stealth attack.

Even if we ignore this skill of Sasaki, I still don't see how Ikki can win here.

 

[NotEvenHuman]

@ScarletFirefly Ittou Shura multiplies his speed and strenght by 10. Their base stats are equalized, so i don't see how Sasaki can keep up with someone 10 times stronger and faster than him for one whole minute.

 

[Yamatohime]

@ScarletFirefly Merging with surroundings isn't really going to help here.

The only useful part of his Vetrification is "no killing intent" (basicaly counter to Fake Eye of the Mind). This one make it harder to counter his attacks.