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save still works though, which is all that really neededAnonimoe7875 said:Frisk never showed offensive soul manip.
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save still works though, which is all that really neededAnonimoe7875 said:Frisk never showed offensive soul manip.
But chaos isn't 4-D.Thatoneguy78 said:Frisk still needs to get over Mind hax it never shown a resistance to, Probalilty Manipulation which it also never shown resitance too, Transmuation it never shown resitance too, Chaos' Abtract existence which frisk has never shown to be able to hurt being like that, Chaos' intabiliy which Frisk still never shown to harm being like that, The fact that Chaos could ressurect herself, make even more of herself, Manipulate Frisk age and turn Frisk into Dust because of age.
So unless Frisk's "determination" can stop all of that and then some I don't see how Frisk can win. Also for someone to bring up the fact that "Frisk has a 2-A backing her up so those hax get negated" well it doesn't mean squat when the 2-A hasn't shown resistance to the abiltites Choas' has at her call. And that being is still a 4D being don't belive me look whta the tier page says.
As qouted from the wiki tier page "Multiverse level+: Characters who can destroy and/or create a countably infinite number of 4-dimensional universal space-time continuums. Take note that the universes are technically lined up along a 5-dimensional axis, but that their geometrical size still amounts to 0 within this scale."
as it says above a 2-A is still a 4D being who can destroy and infinte amount of universes in a 4D plane but never reaches the 5th Dimension. If the being was a higher dimension than both Frisk and Chaos then it would be a 5D being
qouted from the wiki tier page "High Multiverse level+: Characters who are 5-dimensional, and/or can destroy and/or create 5-dimensional space-time constructs of a not insignificant size. Characters who can destroy and/or create an uncountably infinite numbers of universes may potentially also be assigned this tier, as their geometrical 5-D size can be higher than 0"
So as mentioned above a High 2-A would need to be a 5th dimensional being or destroy 5D space which Frisk "determination" has never shown to or stated to do. So unless the undertale pages need major revisions the only real advantage Frisk has against Chaos is AP and almost nothing else.
Yeah okay, you're right about that there but she is still using a 4D power source which can still affect Frisk and Frisk's determination. So unless you want to debunk Low 2-C sailor moon, Chaos is still either a 4D Being or using a 4D power source that can affect Frisk.Ricsi-viragosi said:having 4 dimensional power doesent make you 4d, which is why goku is 3d
frisks power sorce is above infinte 4d, as its comperable to asriel at hos strongest, who is above jis firts form, whichs is infinite 4d.Thatoneguy78 said:Yeah okay, you're right about that there but she is still using a 4D power source which can still affect Frisk and Frisk's determination. So unless you want to debunk Low 2-C sailor moon, Chaos is still either a 4D Being or using a 4D power source that can affect Frisk.
Wait what? How is Frisk's powers source Infinte 4D or Asriel above Infinite 4D? Because last I checked Asreil is at best above baseline 2-A and not a High 2-A. Unless you're mentioning the Dog which I don't think is the one granting Frisk 5D protection. So unless you can prove that, Frisk is still a 4D being backed by another 4D entity.Ricsi-viragosi said:frisks power sorce is above infinte 4d, as its comperable to asriel at hos strongest, who is above jis firts form, whichs is infinite 4d.
Do you mean that Asriel is above baseline 2-A or something else?Ricsi-viragosi said:asriels true power ouutdoes that
That doesn't make it higher than infinite 4-D.Ricsi-viragosi said:asriel in base is infinitly above omega flowey (as all baseline 2As are infinite 4d) and asriels true power ouutdoes that
being directly stronger then infinity makes you above infinityThe Wright Way said:That doesn't make it higher than infinite 4-D.
base asriel, infinite 4d, full power asteil above base asrielThatoneguy78 said:Yeah now I am official confused
Which is still just infinite 4d.Ricsi-viragosi said:base asriel, infinite 4d, full power asteil above base asrielThatoneguy78 said:Yeah now I am official confused
Not really cause if you have two beings with completely different power sets but both are infinite (I'll use Low 2-C for this example). One could win over the other depending on how potent their powers are or if the other being could resist the other one's abilities.Ricsi-viragosi said:being directly stronger then infinity makes you above infinity
Inconclusive for these reasons.Thatoneguy78 said:Not really cause if you have two beings with completely different power sets but both are infinite (I'll use Low 2-C for this example). One could win over the other depending on how potent their powers are or if the other being could resist the other one's abilities.Ricsi-viragosi said:being directly stronger then infinity makes you above infinity
In this case, were arguing the above except throw in 2-A backing and one of the beings have a 2-B AP and striking strength and the other one has a lot of hax that the 2-B and 2-A backing it up have shown no resistance to or ability to negate. And that's this match in a nutshell
Ricsi-viragosi said:her sealing needs to absorb the enemies energy , which frisk hasan infinity more then anything she ever absorbedAnonimoe7875 said:Doesn't Chaos has sealing and mind control?
i responded to that below that, reset, and again, wshy cant frisk erase them with the timelines?Iamunanimousinthat said:She can seal people inside obejects, dimensions, and even their own attacks. She doesn't need to absorb anything to seal. That's just another one of her powers.
mid godly doesent bring you back from universe wide erasion, only high godlyAnonimoe7875 said:Did you look at Chaos profile?
resets countless timlines, doesent have rangeAnonimoe7875 said:Also it's not in character to Frisk simply destroy everything and they never showed the range to do that.2