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Frisk Vs Chaos (Add This Shit please!)

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Frisk still needs to get over Mind hax it never shown a resistance to, Probalilty Manipulation which it also never shown resitance too, Transmuation it never shown resitance too, Chaos' Abtract existence which frisk has never shown to be able to hurt being like that, Chaos' intabiliy which Frisk still never shown to harm being like that, The fact that Chaos could ressurect herself, make even more of herself, Manipulate Frisk age and turn Frisk into Dust because of age.

So unless Frisk's "determination" can stop all of that and then some I don't see how Frisk can win. Also for someone to bring up the fact that "Frisk has a 2-A backing her up so those hax get negated" well it doesn't mean squat when the 2-A hasn't shown resistance to the abiltites Choas' has at her call. And that being is still a 4D being don't belive me look whta the tier page says.

As qouted from the wiki tier page "Multiverse level+: Characters who can destroy and/or create a countably infinite number of 4-dimensional universal space-time continuums. Take note that the universes are technically lined up along a 5-dimensional axis, but that their geometrical size still amounts to 0 within this scale."

as it says above a 2-A is still a 4D being who can destroy and infinte amount of universes in a 4D plane but never reaches the 5th Dimension. If the being was a higher dimension than both Frisk and Chaos then it would be a 5D being

qouted from the wiki tier page "High Multiverse level+: Characters who are 5-dimensional, and/or can destroy and/or create 5-dimensional space-time constructs of a not insignificant size. Characters who can destroy and/or create an uncountably infinite numbers of universes may potentially also be assigned this tier, as their geometrical 5-D size can be higher than 0"

So as mentioned above a High 2-A would need to be a 5th dimensional being or destroy 5D space which Frisk "determination" has never shown to or stated to do. So unless the undertale pages need major revisions the only real advantage Frisk has against Chaos is AP and almost nothing else.
 
Thatoneguy78 said:
Frisk still needs to get over Mind hax it never shown a resistance to, Probalilty Manipulation which it also never shown resitance too, Transmuation it never shown resitance too, Chaos' Abtract existence which frisk has never shown to be able to hurt being like that, Chaos' intabiliy which Frisk still never shown to harm being like that, The fact that Chaos could ressurect herself, make even more of herself, Manipulate Frisk age and turn Frisk into Dust because of age.
So unless Frisk's "determination" can stop all of that and then some I don't see how Frisk can win. Also for someone to bring up the fact that "Frisk has a 2-A backing her up so those hax get negated" well it doesn't mean squat when the 2-A hasn't shown resistance to the abiltites Choas' has at her call. And that being is still a 4D being don't belive me look whta the tier page says.

As qouted from the wiki tier page "Multiverse level+: Characters who can destroy and/or create a countably infinite number of 4-dimensional universal space-time continuums. Take note that the universes are technically lined up along a 5-dimensional axis, but that their geometrical size still amounts to 0 within this scale."

as it says above a 2-A is still a 4D being who can destroy and infinte amount of universes in a 4D plane but never reaches the 5th Dimension. If the being was a higher dimension than both Frisk and Chaos then it would be a 5D being

qouted from the wiki tier page "High Multiverse level+: Characters who are 5-dimensional, and/or can destroy and/or create 5-dimensional space-time constructs of a not insignificant size. Characters who can destroy and/or create an uncountably infinite numbers of universes may potentially also be assigned this tier, as their geometrical 5-D size can be higher than 0"

So as mentioned above a High 2-A would need to be a 5th dimensional being or destroy 5D space which Frisk "determination" has never shown to or stated to do. So unless the undertale pages need major revisions the only real advantage Frisk has against Chaos is AP and almost nothing else.
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But chaos isn't 4-D.
 
According to the wiki tier system, she is

quoted from the wiki tier page "Universe level+: ("Low 2-C") This is for characters who can destroy and/or create the entire 4-dimensional space-time of one universe, not just the physical matter within one. For example, an entire timeline"

quoted from the wiki tier page "Multi-Universe level: Characters who can destroy and/or create up to 1000 universal space-time continuums. The power difference between Low 2-C and 2-C characters is not possible to exactly quantify, given that the latter category has to breach the distance between universes along a 5-dimensional axis"

and since we're using SBA then that means that the strongest form is used which means that Chaos is 4D or using a 4D powers source that can still work on Frisk.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
having 4 dimensional power doesent make you 4d, which is why goku is 3d
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Yeah okay, you're right about that there but she is still using a 4D power source which can still affect Frisk and Frisk's determination. So unless you want to debunk Low 2-C sailor moon, Chaos is still either a 4D Being or using a 4D power source that can affect Frisk.
 
Thatoneguy78 said:
Yeah okay, you're right about that there but she is still using a 4D power source which can still affect Frisk and Frisk's determination. So unless you want to debunk Low 2-C sailor moon, Chaos is still either a 4D Being or using a 4D power source that can affect Frisk.
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frisks power sorce is above infinte 4d, as its comperable to asriel at hos strongest, who is above jis firts form, whichs is infinite 4d.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
frisks power sorce is above infinte 4d, as its comperable to asriel at hos strongest, who is above jis firts form, whichs is infinite 4d.
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Wait what? How is Frisk's powers source Infinte 4D or Asriel above Infinite 4D? Because last I checked Asreil is at best above baseline 2-A and not a High 2-A. Unless you're mentioning the Dog which I don't think is the one granting Frisk 5D protection. So unless you can prove that, Frisk is still a 4D being backed by another 4D entity.

Or I could be completely misinterpreting you and you're just saying that Asreil is just above baseline 2-A.
 
asriel in base is infinitly above omega flowey (as all baseline 2As are infinite 4d) and asriels true power ouutdoes that
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
asriel in base is infinitly above omega flowey (as all baseline 2As are infinite 4d) and asriels true power ouutdoes that
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That doesn't make it higher than infinite 4-D.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
being directly stronger then infinity makes you above infinity
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Not really cause if you have two beings with completely different power sets but both are infinite (I'll use Low 2-C for this example). One could win over the other depending on how potent their powers are or if the other being could resist the other one's abilities.

In this case, were arguing the above except throw in 2-A backing and one of the beings have a 2-B AP and striking strength and the other one has a lot of hax that the 2-B and 2-A backing it up have shown no resistance to or ability to negate. And that's this match in a nutshell
 
Thatoneguy78 said:
Ricsi-viragosi said:
being directly stronger then infinity makes you above infinity
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Not really cause if you have two beings with completely different power sets but both are infinite (I'll use Low 2-C for this example). One could win over the other depending on how potent their powers are or if the other being could resist the other one's abilities.
In this case, were arguing the above except throw in 2-A backing and one of the beings have a 2-B AP and striking strength and the other one has a lot of hax that the 2-B and 2-A backing it up have shown no resistance to or ability to negate. And that's this match in a nutshell
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Inconclusive for these reasons.
 
Also, Chaos has abstract existence and intangibility and still has Hax that Frisk isn't resistant to. So, in the end, I will vote for Chaos simply due to the fact that she has more Hax that Frisk isn't resistant to and her own abstract existence and intangibility make it more likely for Chaos to survive Frisks attacks long enough for her to hax Frisk to death
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Anonimoe7875 said:
Doesn't Chaos has sealing and mind control?
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her sealing needs to absorb the enemies energy , which frisk hasan infinity more then anything she ever absorbed
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She can seal people inside obejects, dimensions, and even their own attacks. She doesn't need to absorb anything to seal. That's just another one of her powers.
 
Iamunanimousinthat said:
She can seal people inside obejects, dimensions, and even their own attacks. She doesn't need to absorb anything to seal. That's just another one of her powers.
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i responded to that below that, reset, and again, wshy cant frisk erase them with the timelines?
 
Yeah, you didn't...

Chaos has immortality type 3,4 and 8, is non-corporeal, has resurrection and is resitant to existance erasure

Also it's not in character to Frisk simply destroy everything and they never showed the range to do that.
 
said exictence erasure is 2b, rype 3 gets lelnoped by erasure, star seed would also get erased, and non corporeal doesent affect timlione erasure in any way
 
Chaos has existed in the timeless void of the Galaxy Cauldron since the beginning of time. Destruction of a timeline or the lack of time shouldn't be a problem for it in any way.

Furthermore, there is no resistance to the Void Manipulation or Mind hax besides a minor resistance to memory manipulation on Frisk's profile. Frisk cannot use her powers if she is already been mind-haxed into a vegetable like state. She wouldn't even have the capacity to use her reset technique in that state.
 
erasure =/=destruction


the reset is assive tho, it happens when they die, and it puts them into the state they were at that point
 
said exictence erasure is 2b
So?

Being 2-B changes nothing.

Also it's not in character to Frisk simply destroy everything and they never showed the range to do that.2
 
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