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Freddy due to Type 2 and being a robot and also stronger physically
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freddy fazbear vs walter white
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how is "being a robot" a wincon here
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robots don't really have easily exploitable weakpoints.
anyways count my vote you vote counter
anyways count my vote you vote counter
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walt is in a car
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wanna name them?
and his car wont help if the fazbear is thrown through his windshield, slamming his fat bear metal body into him, likely killing him.
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normal humans can tamper with him and pulling on his bowtie will expose his wires and exoskeleton
fazbear isnt tall enough for that to happen, he’d have to jump up onto the windshield, which i imagine he’d have trouble doing
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when did i say walter knew about them
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normal humans such as mike could tamper with him without getting turned into human stew so idk about that
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Now wanna explain to me how Walt would even considerably get close to doing that? Michael likely did that in the daytime, as they'd be off.
If walt is in his car and slams into freddy, freddy is going to fly into the windshield and crush walt to death.
Michael could do that since his dad literally built them.
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in the daytime they would be active, one of the first things we hear in fnaf is that they can't be left off or else their servos will get locked up, plus during the day they would be performing
as i said, freddy isn't tall enough for that to happen unless he jumps up onto the rv
mike schmidt and michael afton were never confirmed to be the same person, and there is nothing that implies william taught his son anything about robotics. i highly doubt he did, the guy was a terrible father
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no, they're active but are passive during the day, but they can still get freaked out by adults
well, considering roxanne, who is a much more advanced robot than freddy, got trashed by a go-kart, i doubt freddo could do much if he gets run over by an actual car.
like, I know it's a shitty car, but it can't be worse than a ******* nine year old on a go-kart
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Michael is like, could be like... 30 when he's turned into a shishkabob by his sister (he's a teenager in the 1980s, as that's when fredbear was created, and FNAF 3 takes place in like, 2023 or some shit so that'd make him around 43 in pizza simulator) when he's working at fazbear's he should look a hell of a lot younger.
Despite that, Freddy would still be alive, and covered in the remains of an unfortunate Walter being crushed under his fat ass.
He's too tall to be hit by a car and go into the windshield? that literally makes zero sense. freddy can have human adults fit inside his suit he can fly through a windshield...
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"Unknown, possibly Gifted (Is a skilled businessman as shown in Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria Simulator; could be comparable to his father, who made at least the Sister Location's animatronics and a devise that can manipulate soul energy)"
right...
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mike would probably be in his 20s during fnaf 1, freddy would register him as an adult
when did i say he was too tall lol i said he wasn't tall enough, the rv's windshield is pretty high up
i think that's more to do with him outsmarting his father, or something? either way it's really ******* stupid, there is zero indication that michael is on par with william
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oh wait walt's using the rv? i thought he was using the aztek my bad. then yeah the rv's windshield is too high up for feddy to crash into it on impact. in fact, he'll probably be stuck underneath it with no way to get out
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how does this work with two vehicles? he would supposedly start in his vehicle but he has two cars in this situation since he has all his season 1 equipment
does he just have a second car while he's in the other, or does something else happen? haven't seen this situation in a thread before-
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Ahm...maybe Freddy has the intelligence of a child, and Walter is a genius
Seeing the explosion clip, i think the battle would go like
Freddy hides, then sees he's facing an adult, entering BL
(considering he has the equip close to him/with him) Walter is with a sack of stuff that would **** freddy, sees where Freddy hides and goes behind the car
Freddy is fast, but Walter is waiting for him. Freddy cannot try and reach him in the middle of movement (Walter throws a rock and he's incapacitated) or reach an angle that possibilites him to jump straight for Walter or shorten the distance without Walter noticing and adapting to that.
(ok, before i finish: wtf is this writing on Freddy's speed? I can also move between the camera points of my house in seconds. Like, everyone can. Imma consider the writer meant "he can go through the whole Freddy Fazbear Pizzaria in seconds" (which yeah, no proof, but imo less shitty))
If Walter aims on a incredibly fast Freddy coming straight to him, worst case scenario is wrecking the car too. I see clearly why Freddy woudn't die imediatelly, but he would have (on the best case) took severe damage and would be immobilized. WCS again and he's only a head...Walter finishes him by using all of those crystals to make the animatronic completelly wrecked.
"stealth mastery+superhuman speed"
Well, Walter saw the first place he hid, it would take a lot of time to go unheard from one place to another or a lot of noise would be made and Walter would be able to adapt (or do the last paragraph, more probable). Freddy picking the time would give Walter space for
-putting some of the rocks around the car, step on it with your superhuman body, boom
-go inside the car and wreck the windows, stays on the middle of it (between the driver and passenger's seat, prepared for Freddy coming in any direction, boom
-go inside the car, if it works, get some distance and get the 2 preps above :>, boom
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Seeing the explosion clip, i think the battle would go like
Freddy hides, then sees he's facing an adult, entering BL
(considering he has the equip close to him/with him) Walter is with a sack of stuff that would **** freddy, sees where Freddy hides and goes behind the car
Freddy is fast, but Walter is waiting for him. Freddy cannot try and reach him in the middle of movement (Walter throws a rock and he's incapacitated) or reach an angle that possibilites him to jump straight for Walter or shorten the distance without Walter noticing and adapting to that.
(ok, before i finish: wtf is this writing on Freddy's speed? I can also move between the camera points of my house in seconds. Like, everyone can. Imma consider the writer meant "he can go through the whole Freddy Fazbear Pizzaria in seconds" (which yeah, no proof, but imo less shitty))
If Walter aims on a incredibly fast Freddy coming straight to him, worst case scenario is wrecking the car too. I see clearly why Freddy woudn't die imediatelly, but he would have (on the best case) took severe damage and would be immobilized. WCS again and he's only a head...Walter finishes him by using all of those crystals to make the animatronic completelly wrecked.
"stealth mastery+superhuman speed"
Well, Walter saw the first place he hid, it would take a lot of time to go unheard from one place to another or a lot of noise would be made and Walter would be able to adapt (or do the last paragraph, more probable). Freddy picking the time would give Walter space for
-putting some of the rocks around the car, step on it with your superhuman body, boom
-go inside the car and wreck the windows, stays on the middle of it (between the driver and passenger's seat, prepared for Freddy coming in any direction, boom
-go inside the car, if it works, get some distance and get the 2 preps above :>, boom
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throw rock and they both die, moot point.
he moves between cameras without the camera picking up his movements.
Crystals blow up, killing them both, moot point
im not even sure what you're saying here.
-rocks blow up killing Walter, Freddy is incapped, that's a point for Fred, not Walter
-Not sure what you're even saying here.
-Not sure what you're saying here part 2
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that seems to be a limitation on the game’s part, rather than an actual speed feat. fnaf 1 didn’t have a very high budget, so scott couldn’t really have fully animated characters. to further reinforce this, the camera can pick up on foxy’s running, but not his normal movements. so i think it’s just a matter of whether or not scott bothered to animate it.
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walt doesn’t use his aztek in any sort of combat scenario until season 3, so it isn’t listed in his season 1 equipment
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Yet every other fnaf game has this same exact feat in it for every single animatronic?
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car between them, rock took a little to explode and is very easy to determine that it would activate by contact, so no, not moot
the one from fnaf 1? but he's BL and the protag can close the door before he comes...
so the protag is superhuman reaction speed? or worse: that door moves superhuman level of speed?
with a car between them? again, i don't think so.
going trough a possible response arguing about his Superhuman speed and stealth mastery combined
-rock doesn't kill walter because there is a car between them, i think you haven't read that part for me to say this thrice
-what* could you not understand? i'm telling possible scenarios after Freddy hides
-what* could you not understand? i'm telling possible scenarios after Freddy hides
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no, because it isn’t a feat. surprisingly, scott didn’t want to fully animate every animatronic. the camera “animations” are, pretty clearly, just a bunch of still frames, most likely for the sake of not spending 120% of the budget on pointless animations for every single one of the animatronics.
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you have to wait eight hours before bumping a thread, otherwise the mods will be forced to mute you for 24 hours
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ouch, ok, imma delete
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cool so anyways still a feat since Scott not wanting to do that isn't canon to the games.
yes moot. if you throw something that has the explosion radius of a ******* football field they are both going to die. doesn't matter there's a shitshow car next to it, the range is gonna **** him over.
Yes... the doors move at superhuman speeds to close... they're electric metal doors that slam closed. they move at superhuman speeds.
and, sure, maybe mike does have superhuman reaction speeds. too bad it's possible he's Michael afton, so we cant make a profile for Mike. (nor any of the other night guards, as some of them are possibly Michael Afton, making it debatable whether you can have a separate profile for them)
The way that the car would be between them is if walter was OUTSIDE the car, in which freddy completely overpowers and outspeed because he casually kills athletic humans far easier...
if he sits in his car, he cant ******* throw the explosive out without stepping out, or sticking his head out and getting grabbed.
there is no situation where walter can throw that with certain safety.
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that doesn't mean the result is canon to the games. it's an inconsistency caused by time constraints and budgetary limitations, and as such probably shouldn't be considered canon.
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it quite literally happens in EVERY. SINGLE. GAME. you would have to try and disprove how every animatronic can do this with more evidence than 'well scott didn't feel like animating all of that'
it will not go through with a single bit of 'evidence' like that.
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iirc the only animated camera footage of animatronic movement in the games is foxy running through the hall. the fact that foxy running at top speed can be picked up by the camera, but his normal movements cannot, is kind of cringe!!!! really doesn't make sense...unless those normal movements just aren't animated in the first place (which they clearly aren't, by the way). it would probably be more reliable if we just calced foxy's running speed.
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by the way, if freddy is too fast for the cameras to track his movements, why does he actively hide from the camera, rather than just going too fast to be seen?
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same reason springtrap does? he wants someone going through the cameras to miss that he's there, letting him jump them easier.
Yes, his movement speed is too fast for cameras to pick it up, that doesn't mean the camera will completely fail to pick up glimpses of them. hell half the poses in fnaf 1 show that they are in a walking stature.
and lets say you do somehow get enough evidence to throw out this. this still leaves them with superhuman speeds as they can outspeed and overpower athletic adults like all of them can (even the security breach animatronics are capable of this, besides burntrap who is so heavily damaged it's a given he isn't as fast as he used to.)
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cameras pick up glimpses of them anyways
so i guess their lack of movement when they're on camera is only canon for you when it's convenient, how wholesome
overpowering an adult doesn't give you superhuman speed lol
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near blitzing one does, read what i said.
... which is why they hide from the camers...
what are you even saying here? if you wanna dive into bullshit, the only reason they don't move in cameras is due to click team limitations, not that Scott didn't want to. in lore its a mix between how foxy moves less when looked at and the animatronics being too fast.
this match has gone through enough at this point. Walt doesn't have anything he can reliably do without ******* killing himself to put down freddy except ramming him with his car, which freddy can easily move out of the way from.
this thread has given me enough of a headache, so im out.
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i did. they don't blitz adults, they literally just jump at them and kill them. the player is cornered in a small office, so it's not like they can do much anyways. imagine if i jumped a guy who was already in a corner, beat him up, and then said that i blitzed him. except unlike me, freddy is a 600 pound animatronic, and only really needs one good hit to kill a guy before he can react. it's hardly a speed feat.
no i mean the cameras catch glimpses of them even when they're hiding
got it, so it's gameplay mechanics more or less
you can hear his footsteps moving at the same pace either way. looking at the cameras does not change how fast he runs, he's literally just rushing straight for your office as fast as possible
i do not remember that being a part of the lore, like ever
even with fredr's superhuman speed, the rv is still faster than him, simple due to being higher than baseline. anyways i take it you're voting for fertile fatbren so i guess i'll add that to the count
ok
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from the source that was provided of the rocks on this thread, it's not even close to this radius
it ****** a room and everyone there haven't died because of PIS, as was already discussed on this thread
but it would require more than that for the protag to react seeing wherever is him and close the door.
considering he's BL the entire game and it's easy to shut the door on his face, idk if freddy is soooooo fast
and every animatronic should be comparable, and the only feat we get to see actual speed is Foxy coming for your ass (at least in FNAF1), which is a speed that a regular human being can achieve with ease.
considering freddy coming straight to him, he can predict his route and already be prepared for throwing at him
remember that with the context that i provided, Walter saw where freddy was hiding, and remember how big is the intelligence gap.
i was considering he could break the windows, and in the context i provided, freddy would be hiding, which would give prep time for Walter.
(i was considering a really old car, dunno its appearence)
again, provided source proves otherwise
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I'm going off of profile, and that's what we consider valid in this thread. if you have a problem with that make a CRT.
The protagonist in fnaf 1 is theorized to be Michael Afton, is it so hard to believe Michael has superhuman reactions, considering his father is superhuman in speeds? i mean, prior night guards never lasted beyond night 2 (i believe) so clearly theres something superhuman about the fnaf 1 protag, regardless if it's Michael or not.
Still a football field in range on this explosive, and will still kill him. the explosives are basically a no-no and Walter knows that with his intelligence. it's not gonna be his starting move.
a good starting move would be his gun actually, which can shoot freddy, and still damage him without getting his ass blown up by himself. (it also lets him do you're idea of hiding inside his car, even if freddy could easily open the door and rush him.)
