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Hi, I've been talking about Fortnite revisions for a while, and if you've been paying attention I make light jokes here and there about Tier 1 or 0 Fortnite...
Yeah, it's kind of not a joke anymore, this verse is insane.
This CRT aims to accomplish a few things, Most important of which is a basic understanding of the verse and it's crossovers/crossverse scaling, as if you haven't been living under a rock you likely know Fortnite has MANY crossovers.
I also want to establish standards for how the crossverse scaling will/should work, and who exactly is going to be the Tier 1/0 big dogs of the verse.
Without further ado, let's get started.
To keep this simple, in Fortnite Lore everything originates from the "Zero Point", a burst of pure creation that created what Fortnite calls "The Omniverse" a term used to refer to the collective of EVERY universe in existence, including its crossovers as The Foundation confirms that the DC universe was created via The Zero Point.
These passages come from Batman/Fortnite: Foundation a canon comic (all crossover Fortnite comics are canon)
So yeah, right off the bat (heheh) we already have confirmation that Fortnite is no doubt valid enough for crossverse/crossover scaling. Here are a couple articles about the Marvel and DC Comics at the very least, they feature official interviews with the writers.
www.dc.com
gizmodo.com
www.newsweek.com
With this established, let's go into some important lore and terms
The Zero Point is a physical thing you can interact with, it exists as the coalesced creation energy of everything. Touching it while it's uncontrolled sends Omniversal Energy throughout you and instead of going to a specific place you are split through countless realities, voyaging for eternity.
Reality Zero is the place where Fortnite takes place. It is the Fortnite Island, and it houses the Zero Point itself. As a means to protect itself, it uses The Storm to kill people trying to claim its powers and whatnot.
The Imagined Order, created by Geno, uses the storm to make The Loop, a 22-minute battle royale where people from other realities are pulled in and are forced to fight to the death. You cannot speak or communicate in any way, you lose all your powers, memories, and once you win you appear outside The Loop, regaining your freedom in exchange for working for The IO.
People in the Loop are called "Loopers" and when you leave the loop a "snapshot" of you is created. This is how skins exist in lore.
The In-Between is the realm of the Zero Point, and it connects all the realities in Fortnite.
So that's important stuff, but the important part is The Zero Point/Imagined Order bringing in people from other realities to fight in the Battle Royale.
Now let's talk standards. Due to Fortnite's many crossovers, and the fact that it pretty much confirms that everything in it is a part of its cosmology the thing I settled on was this.
Marvel and DC are the big ones, and are the verses that will make or break Tier 1/0 for this verse (I will be honest, I don't know where those verses will stand after the Tiering System revisions). So, because of the statements and canon comics, I believe that we can apply the DC and Marvel cosmology retroactively to Fortnite's own, given the Zero Point is stated to have created them. Now for obvious reasons, not everyone scales, only characters that can effect or use the Zero Point's power should. This includes
Geno (created the Imagined Order and is stated to have harnessed the Zero Point's Energy. Can even survive within it and reform himself within.)
The Foundation (Leader of the Seven and can match Geno, also contained the destructive blast of the Zero Point within a tower.)
Jonesy (Fought on par with the characters above and was also there helping The Foundation contain the Zero Point, can also survive inside the destabilized zero point)
Peely (Mentioned to be a lynch pin holding all of reality together in the latest chapter events)
Mecha Team Leader (A giant mech that physically grabbed the zero point and beat the devourer to death with it, also got its energy as mentioned in Fortnite x Marvel: Zero War)
Galactus and maybe Herald of Thunder Thor (The entirety of Chapter 2's marvel event revolved around Galactus invading and trying to feed on and steal the Zero Point's powers, he kinda does so, full event here, but he was a threat to it.)
Eminem (Created the big bang event)
Travis Scott (also did a full reality warping event)
The Nothing (An entity that wishes to destory the zero point, it's from The Last Reality)
So yeah, those are the characters who scale, and it's only throguh scaling to the zero point.
As for other standards, with crossovers such as JJK, and Avatar, no the looper is not suddenly someone who can use Limitless with Airbending, Spider-Man powers, and summon lightning from the sky. The standard I want, and I'm shooting for is that crossover abilities like Hollow Purple, Straw Doll, Airbending, Marvel stuff apply on a weapon by weapon basis, either as optional equipment or weapons that could be used for that Chapter. For example, the looper can use hollow purple, but they shouldn't be able to use limitless or cursed energy despite JJK existing in Fortnite's lore now.
Anyway yeah, I wanted to get this out of the way before I update profiles, I don't want to be super active on this thread, but I don't doubt this is gonna be controversial.
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Yeah, it's kind of not a joke anymore, this verse is insane.
This CRT aims to accomplish a few things, Most important of which is a basic understanding of the verse and it's crossovers/crossverse scaling, as if you haven't been living under a rock you likely know Fortnite has MANY crossovers.
I also want to establish standards for how the crossverse scaling will/should work, and who exactly is going to be the Tier 1/0 big dogs of the verse.
Without further ado, let's get started.
To keep this simple, in Fortnite Lore everything originates from the "Zero Point", a burst of pure creation that created what Fortnite calls "The Omniverse" a term used to refer to the collective of EVERY universe in existence, including its crossovers as The Foundation confirms that the DC universe was created via The Zero Point.
These passages come from Batman/Fortnite: Foundation a canon comic (all crossover Fortnite comics are canon)
So yeah, right off the bat (heheh) we already have confirmation that Fortnite is no doubt valid enough for crossverse/crossover scaling. Here are a couple articles about the Marvel and DC Comics at the very least, they feature official interviews with the writers.
Christos Gage and Reilly Brown Share Secrets from Batman/Fortnite | DC
What would you do if you knew you only had 22 minutes to live? And as if that wasn’t bad enough, what if you also had to spend those minutes trapped on a strange island full of freaky psycho-cartoons trying to kill you?
Marvel Made Fortnite Canon and I Have Lost My Entire Mind
Trying to make sense of comics continuity at the best of times requires offering up a tiny little part of your brain to be smushed to gooey smithereens in the mortar and pestle of comic book publishing tomfoolery. But friends, I fear trying to make sense of Marvel’s newest tango with the world...
gizmodo.com
Everything We Learned About 'Fortnite's' Lore in the Batman Crossover Comic
The final issue of "Batman/Fortnite: Zero Point" reveals a lot about the inner workings of Fortnite island. Writer Christos Gage told us more.
www.newsweek.com
With this established, let's go into some important lore and terms
The Zero Point is a physical thing you can interact with, it exists as the coalesced creation energy of everything. Touching it while it's uncontrolled sends Omniversal Energy throughout you and instead of going to a specific place you are split through countless realities, voyaging for eternity.
Reality Zero is the place where Fortnite takes place. It is the Fortnite Island, and it houses the Zero Point itself. As a means to protect itself, it uses The Storm to kill people trying to claim its powers and whatnot.
The Imagined Order, created by Geno, uses the storm to make The Loop, a 22-minute battle royale where people from other realities are pulled in and are forced to fight to the death. You cannot speak or communicate in any way, you lose all your powers, memories, and once you win you appear outside The Loop, regaining your freedom in exchange for working for The IO.
People in the Loop are called "Loopers" and when you leave the loop a "snapshot" of you is created. This is how skins exist in lore.
The In-Between is the realm of the Zero Point, and it connects all the realities in Fortnite.
So that's important stuff, but the important part is The Zero Point/Imagined Order bringing in people from other realities to fight in the Battle Royale.
Now let's talk standards. Due to Fortnite's many crossovers, and the fact that it pretty much confirms that everything in it is a part of its cosmology the thing I settled on was this.
Marvel and DC are the big ones, and are the verses that will make or break Tier 1/0 for this verse (I will be honest, I don't know where those verses will stand after the Tiering System revisions). So, because of the statements and canon comics, I believe that we can apply the DC and Marvel cosmology retroactively to Fortnite's own, given the Zero Point is stated to have created them. Now for obvious reasons, not everyone scales, only characters that can effect or use the Zero Point's power should. This includes
Geno (created the Imagined Order and is stated to have harnessed the Zero Point's Energy. Can even survive within it and reform himself within.)
The Foundation (Leader of the Seven and can match Geno, also contained the destructive blast of the Zero Point within a tower.)
Jonesy (Fought on par with the characters above and was also there helping The Foundation contain the Zero Point, can also survive inside the destabilized zero point)
Peely (Mentioned to be a lynch pin holding all of reality together in the latest chapter events)
Mecha Team Leader (A giant mech that physically grabbed the zero point and beat the devourer to death with it, also got its energy as mentioned in Fortnite x Marvel: Zero War)
Galactus and maybe Herald of Thunder Thor (The entirety of Chapter 2's marvel event revolved around Galactus invading and trying to feed on and steal the Zero Point's powers, he kinda does so, full event here, but he was a threat to it.)
Eminem (Created the big bang event)
Travis Scott (also did a full reality warping event)
The Nothing (An entity that wishes to destory the zero point, it's from The Last Reality)
So yeah, those are the characters who scale, and it's only throguh scaling to the zero point.
As for other standards, with crossovers such as JJK, and Avatar, no the looper is not suddenly someone who can use Limitless with Airbending, Spider-Man powers, and summon lightning from the sky. The standard I want, and I'm shooting for is that crossover abilities like Hollow Purple, Straw Doll, Airbending, Marvel stuff apply on a weapon by weapon basis, either as optional equipment or weapons that could be used for that Chapter. For example, the looper can use hollow purple, but they shouldn't be able to use limitless or cursed energy despite JJK existing in Fortnite's lore now.
Anyway yeah, I wanted to get this out of the way before I update profiles, I don't want to be super active on this thread, but I don't doubt this is gonna be controversial.
All scans used
