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Just saying. I mean, if it's just for the durability, I'm fine. But, you know, this to justify AP, along with its jumpscare animation being a straight-up bite.Starter Pack said:
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The process didn't happen slowly. The child was placed in Fredbear's jaws, which didn't start crushing immediately. The springlocks failed, which caused the kid's head to be crushed immediately.
Why would Mangle be weaker than the Toys? It's pretty well theorised that Mangle caused the Bite of '87, which would easily make it superior to the Toys. The taken apart by kids bit... it's a robot that was deactivated when the kids went at it. It's a testament to Mangle's durability actually, because the robot can survive these constant destruction and rebuilding.
Why would Mangle be weaker than the Toys? It's pretty well theorised that Mangle caused the Bite of '87, which would easily make it superior to the Toys. The taken apart by kids bit... it's a robot that was deactivated when the kids went at it. It's a testament to Mangle's durability actually, because the robot can survive these constant destruction and rebuilding.
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It was a result of a springlock failure? Meaning a human was in that suit? I find that hard to believe.
I don't think Mangle could cause the bite of 87 in the way it occurred, those teeth are way too sharp, and that could kill someone. But, I do agree that Mangle is pretty durable actually, but let's say if someone were to take a swing at each of the animatronics with a crowbar in the torso. It would easily pop a hole into the chest of every animatronic, and damage some of the electronics. If you hit Mangle, one of their limps would fall off. So, while Mangle is already strong, it is less protected than the other animatronics.
I would say that she is At Least 10-A because the only part that could do damage is really her head.
I don't think Mangle could cause the bite of 87 in the way it occurred, those teeth are way too sharp, and that could kill someone. But, I do agree that Mangle is pretty durable actually, but let's say if someone were to take a swing at each of the animatronics with a crowbar in the torso. It would easily pop a hole into the chest of every animatronic, and damage some of the electronics. If you hit Mangle, one of their limps would fall off. So, while Mangle is already strong, it is less protected than the other animatronics.
I would say that she is At Least 10-A because the only part that could do damage is really her head.
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The springlocks do more than protect humans inside the suits. They are an essential part of how the animatronics function. By sticking the Crying Child's head into the machine, they caused the springlock mechanics to malfunction, which caused its mouth to close. Plus, going by the FNAF 4 minigame, Fredbear's jaws snapped shut. There was nothing slow about it.
Also, what did Phone Guy say again about the frontal lobe bit?
"Yeah. I-It's amazing that the human body can live without the frontal lobe, you know?"
That means whoever was bit could've and probably should've died from it. So, saying that Mangle couldn't do it because it would've killed someone is kind of a flawed argument from that angle.
Also, what did Phone Guy say again about the frontal lobe bit?
"Yeah. I-It's amazing that the human body can live without the frontal lobe, you know?"
That means whoever was bit could've and probably should've died from it. So, saying that Mangle couldn't do it because it would've killed someone is kind of a flawed argument from that angle.
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True, but Mangle has very sharp teeth that would pierce the skin, and cause a lot of bleeding, which would lead to death eventually. Fredbear chewing down on the kid kinda makes sense, since whatever happened, only crushed or fractured his skull, which would lead to death, but much less likely in my opinion than the addition of all that bleeding.
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Uh-huh. Pierce the skin. And the skull. And the brain.XXJellyXx said:
And actually, Mangle doing it would probably make more sense, as it would cut through the skull and make a cleaner break, whereas someone like Freddy would end up crushing it and making it more of a mush than anything.
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Alright, hang on. Let's go with what we know.
The incident we see in FNAF 4 is not the Bite of '87. That incident happened in 1983.
The Bite of '87 incident resulted in a person losing their frontal lobe. If you look at a medical diagram, the frontal lobe is right up at the top of the front of the brain, just where your forehead finishes. That's not the part of the head that was attacked with the Fredbear incident, rather Fredbear bit down at the temples.
And, what animatronic not only has the angle of attack necessary to attack that part of the head, but also the manoeuvrable head necessary to chomp down on that specific part of the head? If any other animatronics tried to attack a human's frontal lobe, they simply wouldn't be able to get their jaws around the head.
Mangle is honestly the best choice for the Bite of '87 culprit. The timeline also matches up too.
The incident we see in FNAF 4 is not the Bite of '87. That incident happened in 1983.
The Bite of '87 incident resulted in a person losing their frontal lobe. If you look at a medical diagram, the frontal lobe is right up at the top of the front of the brain, just where your forehead finishes. That's not the part of the head that was attacked with the Fredbear incident, rather Fredbear bit down at the temples.
And, what animatronic not only has the angle of attack necessary to attack that part of the head, but also the manoeuvrable head necessary to chomp down on that specific part of the head? If any other animatronics tried to attack a human's frontal lobe, they simply wouldn't be able to get their jaws around the head.
Mangle is honestly the best choice for the Bite of '87 culprit. The timeline also matches up too.
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Unfortunately most everything that we come up with regarding FNAF will be theories, as old Scotty boy loves to keep his fanbase in the dark
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Excuse me, what?
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The bite of '87?
As the person survived the event, we can safely assume that it was a fracture, as complete crushing would have destroyed the entire brain, and we know that didn't happen
The bite of '83?
Skull was completely crushed. We see that both sides of the kid's face have been pushed inwards, and the kid goes completely limp in a manner consistent with complete and total brain trauma.
As the person survived the event, we can safely assume that it was a fracture, as complete crushing would have destroyed the entire brain, and we know that didn't happen
The bite of '83?
Skull was completely crushed. We see that both sides of the kid's face have been pushed inwards, and the kid goes completely limp in a manner consistent with complete and total brain trauma.
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Still the bite has been atrivbuted and theorized to be other animatronics, heck the event was brought up before the second game was even thought up. Not saying it wasn´t Mangle, just saying there are other possabilities and canadits. Anyway Mangle imo is a glass cannon. Would Toys scale to Mangle? Also what about SL animatronics and ST? I mean if we say the OGs are 9-B, that would make normal William Afton 9-B due ripping them apart, even with surprise. Also in the SAVE THEM mini game (the one with the puppet guiding Freddy), WA uses some devise to stop them. He doesn´t use that when tearing apart the animatronics. If he did he wouldn´t hav had to use stealth. Plus his sprite has him unarmed. Idk if ST would somewhat scale but he is likely higher than the toys at least in durability and size. The SL animatronics for the most part are of similar size to the OGs.
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Circus Baby is 7'2, and is practically made out of thick, metal wiring, instead of just having a metal endoskeleton like the OG. I'd definitely say the Sister Location animatronics should scale, at least. (You know, aside from the Minireenas, like Crimson said)
As for the Toys, I honestly figured they would scale to Mangle as well, as they're all technically from the same series of animatronics. It was only repurposed as a take apart and put together animatronic after the staff decided they didn't want to keep putting it together again after the children kept taking it apart, but it was the newly designed Foxy of the group. So, since Mangle is technically part of the same series, I would imagine they should have a similar scaling of strength.
As for the Toys, I honestly figured they would scale to Mangle as well, as they're all technically from the same series of animatronics. It was only repurposed as a take apart and put together animatronic after the staff decided they didn't want to keep putting it together again after the children kept taking it apart, but it was the newly designed Foxy of the group. So, since Mangle is technically part of the same series, I would imagine they should have a similar scaling of strength.
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Damnit Starter, you got there a second before me! I agree with all of that, though.
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Sounds reasonable. Also would the any of the animatronics have Immortality type 2: Characters with this degree of immortality can survive injuries that would otherwise be lethal to a normal person, without needing to heal from it? I mean the Withers, Twisted Ones, and Mangle show this to some degree but they are robots so idk.
I mean as in missing large body parts and stuff like that.
I mean as in missing large body parts and stuff like that.
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Yeah, that sounds about right. I'm fine with that.
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Would that scale to all of them? I mean ST loses parts, enard is basically an acumulation of ripped arpart animatronics, Baby survived being booted from enard, book ST survived the spring lock failures (though iirc he was greatly weakened), and toys scale to mangle. Besides characters like the book OGs unless I missed something, the minirinas, balloon boy, the puppet (which maybe should have an unknown tier normally), UCN, etc.
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Hm, then maybe it's safest to apply that to those for now, and have further discussion later about the others.
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ok then
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Springtrap I disagree with. The Springtrap we know and love is a suit, the endoskeleton that would have been in him long gone. William Afton should get it for surviving all those years inside Springtrap, but the suit itself shouldn't.
SL animatronics all survived the scooping and being turned into Ennard, so yes
Toys should all scale to Mangle.
Not sure of the OG injuries are what you would call lethal for a robot, so I'm iffy on that.
SL animatronics all survived the scooping and being turned into Ennard, so yes
Toys should all scale to Mangle.
Not sure of the OG injuries are what you would call lethal for a robot, so I'm iffy on that.
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I mean, Foxy has a gigantic gash in the front of it in both the books and the games, so that's something.
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Also, let's talk about arguably one of the most powerful characters in the franchise, the Puppet for a quick second.
The Puppet should definitely scale to the OG animatronics. In the GIVE GIFTS GIVE LIFE minigame, we see that the Puppet was built at the same time as the OGs and FB/ST, so therefor should be comparable to them (All 6 are 9-B sooooo).
I don't think she should be unknown tier. The Puppet has clear feats and scaling, unlike Golden Freddy, who literally can't be quantified (don't think that there are any other unknowns).
The Puppet should definitely scale to the OG animatronics. In the GIVE GIFTS GIVE LIFE minigame, we see that the Puppet was built at the same time as the OGs and FB/ST, so therefor should be comparable to them (All 6 are 9-B sooooo).
I don't think she should be unknown tier. The Puppet has clear feats and scaling, unlike Golden Freddy, who literally can't be quantified (don't think that there are any other unknowns).
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Anyway, yeah. I agree with that.
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Ah. Then yeah, the OG's should also also get Type 2
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But yeah I disagree with the Puppet scaling
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Alright.
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Just making sure you read what I commented about it ^^;
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So, this has what's been accepted here.
>ALL animatronics, aside from Golden Freddy, the Puppet, the Minireenas, Balloon Boy and the UCN animatronics, will be upgraded to 9-B.
>The reasoning for Springtrap's AP and the OG animatronics' Durability will be rescinded for being headcanon.
>Every possessed animatronic should get Type 7 and every animatronic except for the ones mentioned before and Springtrap should get Type 2.
>Every animatronic should get all Types of Self-Sustenance.
>Peak Human should be replaced with Superhuman Physical Characteristics for the upgraded characters.
>The Puppet should get Levitation and Life Manipulation.
>Springtrap should gain Potential Resistance to Fire Manipulation.
>The profiles are in dire need for a cleanup.
Does this seem right, or did I miss anything?
>ALL animatronics, aside from Golden Freddy, the Puppet, the Minireenas, Balloon Boy and the UCN animatronics, will be upgraded to 9-B.
>The reasoning for Springtrap's AP and the OG animatronics' Durability will be rescinded for being headcanon.
>Every possessed animatronic should get Type 7 and every animatronic except for the ones mentioned before and Springtrap should get Type 2.
>Every animatronic should get all Types of Self-Sustenance.
>Peak Human should be replaced with Superhuman Physical Characteristics for the upgraded characters.
>The Puppet should get Levitation and Life Manipulation.
>Springtrap should gain Potential Resistance to Fire Manipulation.
>The profiles are in dire need for a cleanup.
Does this seem right, or did I miss anything?
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Why type 1?
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Oh, wait. Thought I saw Type 1 being discussed somewhere. I'll remove that.
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Actually, now that I think about it, every single animatronic should get Self-Sustenance as well, for being, well, robots. Some of them being haunted robots as well.
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Agreed
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Adding that to the list, then.
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What about Longevity?
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Don't think so. I mean, how old is Springtrap by FNAF 3? Like 30-something, right? And he's a shambling wreak on the brink of death, and most all of the other robots are in the scrap heap.
Also, what type of Self-Sustenance?
Also, what type of Self-Sustenance?
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