Flowey vs Kyubey

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Also, no. Every human soul has DT. Even the six children did.

The only reason human souls persist past death is DT to begin with, and all human souls have that, being the greatest power of humans, and potentially their undoing as it gives monsters a way to absorb a felled humans' soul.

 

[SomebodyData]

1. No they did, just not to the same extent.

2. Coming

3. Right and what makes a soul strong?

4. Kyubey's original body (assuming he has a soul), is probably out of that range. Unless you're implying he gets a new soul with each body, scans please. Also again, monster souls required an entire population.

5. Explain the entire game in which he only absorbs all the souls in one ending.

 

[Nico-v11]

Well we don't have it on the profile because its not really sealing and its a combination of a lot things.

It's actually almost the opposite too, since nothing can enter either.

Though if we had to write it down, it would probably be:

He would only have all that with prep but I agree

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Flowey seems to only absorb the Souls to go back to his True Form, and he doesn't use it to beat a strong opponent, if that was the case, he would have just absorbed Sans soul instead of resetting and he would have absorbed the Monsters Souls against Chara.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Flowey seems to only absorb the Souls to go back to his True Form, and he doesn't use it to beat a strong opponent, if that was the case, he would have just absorbed Sans soul instead of resetting and he would have absorbed the Monsters Souls against Chara

No.

He can't just absorb souls willy nilly. He could do it to still alive people only with six human souls. That is what the statement in Alphys' lab is for, the one that says that someone needs to be really OP to take the soul of a monster.

Without the six human souls, his soul absorption is still limited to the same as all monsters.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Monsters have explicitly inferior existences to humans. Kyubey doesn't have that caveat.

 

[SomebodyData]

Kyubey isn't a human tho, Source.

Again, no Determination either.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Monsters have explicitly inferior existences to humans. Kyubey doesn't have that caveat.

Undertale Humans have an innate magical energy in them that allows their soul to exist for eternity, and a small sample of DT extracted from the soul of children was enough to give Flowey Save and Load, and dying monsters became immortal amalgamations (that potentially had Save and Load at some point, as they obviously recognize a save... star(?) and mimic it to trick Frisk).

 

[SomebodyData]

Mito tried to connect with Kyubey, but failed, only to realize her magic is actually working, its just that kyubey is kyubey.

 

[Theglassman12]

Does Mito's communication involve talking to souls?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

How does his sealing work? Does it need prep?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

How does his sealing work?

Made a forcefield around a soulgem that a being omnipresent across time and space of a whole multiverse couldn't do anything about.

 

[SomebodyData]

@Glass Yes. Mind reading is belongs to another girl.

 

[SomebodyData]

@Adem ye, he needed to learn how to make the Isolation Zone first. Though between Rebellion and Homura vs a large amount of Wraiths in the desert, was when it was actually made. Not that it matters though, since its a hive mind it'll just make one.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

The problem is, even in the best case scenario, Flowey still has SAVE and LOAD, and any plans Kyubey would've had would get yeeted.


...unless Kyubey is acausal. I didn't check the profile. I'll go do so now.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Again, did you not read?

His sealing worked on someone Omnipresent across all time and space in a 2-A universe.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

It worked on Homura, not Madoka.

 

[Schnee_One]

Ricsi Chill

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It worked on Homura, not Madoka.

Which Madoka couldn't do anything about, yeah.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Ricsi Chill

I am, sorry if the comments come across otherwise.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Does Flowey even have a wincon? Flowey has no way to incap or kill Kyubey, and Kyubey can easily win with his sealing.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Does Kyubey have the shard of Homura's shield? Only way this can be fair is if he doesn't.

 

[SomebodyData]

@Adem nope, heck Kyubey doesn't even really need the Isolation Zone. His astral and telepathic powers could incap.

@Cal he doesn't need it, if op wants to remove it, that's fine.

Mostly because the prep needed is actually pretty small / other ways of incap.