Fixing (nuking) the Devil Physiology (DxD) Page

[Dark_Soul20189]

Alright, I have come to realize how a lot of DxD stuff has been passed that should have clearly not have been, In today's CRT, we will focus on the Devil Physiology DxD Page.


First I would like to show what it says on the Page itself

General Abilities​

Down below are the innate abilities all Devils are capable or should be capable of possessing and utilizing regardless of their class:

This means that all abilities and resistance that are not universal for the devil race should NOT be listed here. This would include specific abilities that are, for example, abilities certain devil clans have or just abilities that are linked to a rank, we need to make that clear moving forward.


Now let's get started

Empowerment (Devils can become stronger during the night and can even use their powers more sufficiently during that time.)

This is just straight-up reversed Psychology, the scan talks about how Devils are weak to light, and therefore stronger at night, due to being weakened during the day. So it's not Empowerment but rather a straight-up weakness.

• Aura (High-Class Devils and higher like Riser, Rias, and Grayfia can release a pressure of killing intent that can overwhelm others with unease and even make their bodies tremble. Even Low-Class Devils like Saji at the time could release a pressure that makes others feel fear.)

So the two examples of Aura that every devil is supposed to have come from high-class devils and a reincarnated devil with a Great Dragon king as his Sacred gear... Yeah, no this is not an ability that every devil has, as the page would claim, but rather only for high-class devils, or beings of similar strength.

• Summoning (Devils can summon familiars if they have a pact with them, with which they can use them for varying means like support or mundane tasks like handing out leaflets for Devil summons. Devils with Peerages can also summon their Servants whenever desired or needed.)

While this is mostly fine, I bolded the part I have problems with, Why? Simple, Only High-class devils of social status can own a peerage, again it's not a general devil thing.

• Subjective Reality, Physics Manipulation, Energy Manipulation, Unholy Manipulation & Forcefield (Devils wield Demonic Power, which is the power to control and manifest phenomena such as conjuring fire, water, and lightning. To properly wield and manifest Demonic Power, a Devil must have the power to imagine and create the phenomena they want to conjure as well as the good sense to wield them. Devils can also use Demonic Power for more simpler purposes such as creating offensive attacks (ex. in the form of energy blasts) or create defensive barriers. Demonic Power's nature is also the opposite to that of Holy Power, being something that is the demonic and dark to that of holiness and light.)

Where does Physics Manipulation come from?

• Soul Manipulation (Devils like Saji can, if necessary, use their very life force (aka their soul) to turn it into Demonic Power not only to increase the potency of their attacks but also to harm their target down to their very soul. Sairaorg, a High-Class Devil with next to no Demonic Power, was able to train himself to the point of using his lifeforce in the form of Touki, enabling him to strike his foes right to their very soul.)

Alright, to start things off, it's again talking about specifically Saji instead of a general devil thing. However, that ain't even the worst part of it... That is how this entire conversation is in Flowery Language, talking about how his "Fist can be filled to with a dream or a soul." And let's not even begin to talk about how the same paragraph talks about reaching the core of the opponent's BODY, not soul, mind you. So, to conclude, if you have a dream or something you truly want you can make your attacks stronger, and the scan shows no indication of attacking the soul.

So Sairaorg can use Touki cool, now tell me how this helps prove that it is universal for devils to be capable of manipulating the soul...

• Non-Physical Interaction & Purification (Spirits; Devils have taken jobs that require them to exorcise evil spirits from people as well as dealing with killing them.)

Does this ability have any more proof than the People from the Church being able to exorcise some evil spirits, and Devils being frequently ASKED to do it... They don't show proof of them doing it, but rather just being asked if they can get help with it...

Edit - The NPI can stay, due to arguments presented by @Digital_Franz, but the Purification still needs to go. Also, I would love the scans for it.



Now let's get started with the Resistances on the page, where the same rule applies, only universal resistances for all Devils.


First of

• Perception Manipulation & Illusion Creation (Those with special powers such as magic wielders and Sacred Gear wielders are capable of bypassing area's laced with an effect that causes ordinary beings to be driven away from said area in question, which should make Devils also capable of doing the same. Devils can also see through illusions that ordinary people aren't able to perceive.)

Alright, before We gonna talk about this, let's show the ability they are resisting on the same page...

• Perception Manipulation (Devils passively release Demonic Power that makes only Humans who have made contracts with them can perceive them. Anyone else not involved with their activities are unable to hear them.)

So wow, Devils are capable of seeing through Illusion magic that is meant to keep normal humans (non-supernatural beings) unaware that they exist... Yeah, this resistance needs to go, since they are basically resisting something that doesn't even affect them in the first place...

• Possession (With sheer will, a Devil who has been possessed could resist their body's forced actions and keep it up so long as their will doesn't waver.)

This is not a devil-specific thing, nor is that mentioned anywhere, but rather, it's just a willpower thing. Since it's mentioned, he could resist through his willpower.

• Mind Manipulation (A Devil's Demonic Power could be used to resist spells that affect the mind, allowing it to not be able to function properly.)

Can Someone explain to me how a resistance that is specifically mentioned to be from the demonic energy of a Maou descendent is a universal resistance to devils?

• Soul Manipulation (Issei, a low-class Devil at the time, was able to endure attacks from Saji, who was using his own life-force (aka his soul) as Demonic Power to increase the potency of his attacks as well as hitting his soul. Issei was again able to take and endure hits from Sairaorg, whose punches can attack the soul itself.)

Can someone explain to me how something that only Issei has proof and mentions of doing is a universal resistance to the devil kind? Also, if the soul manipulation part gets accepted, the Saji justification will be removed for Issei.

• Disease Manipulation (Humans who were reincarnated as Devils are incapable of catching diseases that they otherwise would have caught. Likewise, this means illnesses of other Devils who were originally of another race besides a Human may not be able to affect them and thus Natural/Pure-blood Devils can't catch any human diseases and the like.)

Wow, you are telling me that Devils can resist diseases that affect other species and not their own? But seriously it only explains how reincarnated Devils can't be affected by diseases that affected their previous race... This is not a resistance by any means.

Minor Resistance to:

• Heat Manipulation (It is stated that Devils are incapable of getting sunburned.)

I fail to see how this is a resistance of any kind.


Votes
Agree - @Kaiou1991, @Digital_Franz (Everything but NPI), @Humanitus_Primevilus888 (Everything but Physics manipulation), @Astral_Trinity439 (same as Digital franz, but also Empowerment), @Robo432343, @ShionAH, @TWILIGHT-OP, @Phoenks (everything but Empowerment), @Dereck03 (same as Phoenks),
Disagree - @Phoenks (Empowerment),
Neutral -@Digital_Franz (NPI - They can kill evil spirits, and that's all. If they want to exorcise them, they will take holy water.), @Humanitus_Primevilus888 (Physics manipulation), @Astral_Trinity439 (same as Franz + Empowerment), @Dereck03 (Empovement should be changed to limited),

Notes -
*Let's all have a civilized thread, and I seriously do wonder how some of these were even accepted...

*Also, this may have some grammar issues since I am having a fever they may be worse than normal, please notify me of them so I can fix them, or clear up what I mean.

PS - I wish everyone a great day!

 

[Berga14]

Istant death wasn't enought, poor DxD

 

[Kaiou1991]

I agree with this, good job!

 

[Digital_Franz]

Now let's get started

Empowerment (Devils can become stronger during the night and can even use their powers more sufficiently during that time.)

This is just straight-up reversed Psychology, the scan talks about how Devils are weak to light, and therefore stronger at night, due to being weakened during the day. So it's not Empowerment but rather a straight-up weakness.

Yeah especially since the scan says:

This is because we Devils can use our power more sufficiently at night

• Aura (High-Class Devils and higher like Riser, Rias, and Grayfia can release a pressure of killing intent that can overwhelm others with unease and even make their bodies tremble. Even Low-Class Devils like Saji at the time could release a pressure that makes others feel fear.)

So the two examples of Aura that every devil is supposed to have come from high-class devils and a reincarnated devil with a Great Dragon king as his Sacred gear... Yeah, no this is not an ability that every devil has, as the page would claim, but rather only for high-class devils, or beings of similar strength.

Yeah both examples are not valid to be a general case since they are High-class and Saji who is not an ordinary Low-class.

• Summoning (Devils can summon familiars if they have a pact with them, with which they can use them for varying means like support or mundane tasks like handing out leaflets for Devil summons. Devils with Peerages can also summon their Servants whenever desired or needed.)

While this is mostly fine, I bolded the part I have problems with, Why? Simple, Only High-class devils of social status can own a peerage, again it's not a general devil thing.

Yeah that part of the justification should be removed.

• Subjective Reality, Physics Manipulation, Energy Manipulation, Unholy Manipulation & Forcefield (Devils wield Demonic Power, which is the power to control and manifest phenomena such as conjuring fire, water, and lightning. To properly wield and manifest Demonic Power, a Devil must have the power to imagine and create the phenomena they want to conjure as well as the good sense to wield them. Devils can also use Demonic Power for more simpler purposes such as creating offensive attacks (ex. in the form of energy blasts) or create defensive barriers. Demonic Power's nature is also the opposite to that of Holy Power, being something that is the demonic and dark to that of holiness and light.)

Where does Physics Manipulation come from?

Uh I noticed this on the Angel Physiology Page, the problem is that there are almost no scans on that page.

Since we're at it, DxD supporters can you add scans to your pages please?

• Soul Manipulation (Devils like Saji can, if necessary, use their very life force (aka their soul) to turn it into Demonic Power not only to increase the potency of their attacks but also to harm their target down to their very soul. Sairaorg, a High-Class Devil with next to no Demonic Power, was able to train himself to the point of using his lifeforce in the form of Touki, enabling him to strike his foes right to their very soul.)

Alright, to start things off, it's again talking about specifically Saji instead of a general devil thing. However, that ain't even the worst part of it... That is how this entire conversation is in Flowery Language, talking about how his "Fist can be filled to with a dream or a soul." And let's not even begin to talk about how the same paragraph talks about reaching the core of the opponent's BODY, not soul, mind you. So, to conclude, if you have a dream or something you truly want you can make your attacks stronger, and the scan shows no indication of attacking the soul.

So Sairaorg can use Touki cool, now tell me how this helps prove that it is universal for devils to be capable of manipulating the soul...

Literally the most important part, the one where the soul has to be damaged, is nonexistent. Well, even if that part was there, it's not about the fight between two Low-class so it definitely doesn't have its place on this page.

• Non-Physical Interaction & Purification (Spirits; Devils have taken jobs that require them to exorcise evil spirits from people as well as dealing with killing them.)

Does this ability have any more proof than the People from the Church being able to exorcise some evil spirits, and Devils being frequently ASKED to do it... They don't show proof of them doing it, but rather just being asked if they can get help with it...

They can kill evil spirits and that's all. If they want to exorcise them they will take holy water.

First of

• Perception Manipulation & Illusion Creation (Those with special powers such as magic wielders and Sacred Gear wielders are capable of bypassing area's laced with an effect that causes ordinary beings to be driven away from said area in question, which should make Devils also capable of doing the same. Devils can also see through illusions that ordinary people aren't able to perceive.)

Alright, before We gonna talk about this, let's show the ability they are resisting on the same page...

• Perception Manipulation (Devils passively release Demonic Power that makes only Humans who have made contracts with them can perceive them. Anyone else not involved with their activities are unable to hear them.)

So wow, Devils are capable of seeing through Illusion magic that is meant to keep normal humans (non-supernatural beings) unaware that they exist... Yeah, this resistance needs to go, since they are basically resisting something that doesn't even affect them in the first place...

Agree on this point. It's like saying that if a character in a random verse sees an energy invisible to normal people they receive resistance, which is particularly false. Nothing affects them to begin with, their senses are not altered.

Possession (With sheer will, a Devil who has been possessed could resist their body's forced actions and keep it up so long as their will doesn't waver.)

This is not a devil-specific thing, nor is that mentioned anywhere, but rather, it's just a willpower thing. Since it's mentioned, he could resist through his willpower.

And Supernatural Willpower and it's specific to the character. Plus, it's just partial resistance since he didn't fully resist the possession but was only able to act a little bit.

• Soul Manipulation (Issei, a low-class Devil at the time, was able to endure attacks from Saji, who was using his own life-force (aka his soul) as Demonic Power to increase the potency of his attacks as well as hitting his soul. Issei was again able to take and endure hits from Sairaorg, whose punches can attack the soul itself.)

Can someone explain to me how something that only Issei has proof and mentions of doing is a universal resistance to the devil kind? Also, if the soul manipulation part gets accepted, the Saji justification will be removed for Issei.

Soul Manipulation is not valid to begin with, both for Saji and Sairaorg.

Overall I agree with the changes.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

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So you agree with everything but the Interacting with Evil Spirit part?

 

[Digital_Franz]

So you agree with everything but the Interacting with Evil Spirit part?

Yeah they can interact and even kill evil spirits.

 

[Humanitus_Primevilus888]

Neutral about the physics manipulation stuff but overall I’m fine with the change

 

[Dragongod224]

Alright, I have come to realize how a lot of DxD stuff has been passed that should have clearly not have been, In today's CRT, we will focus on the Devil Physiology DxD Page.


First I would like to show what it says on the Page itself

This means that all abilities and resistance that are not universal for the devil race should NOT be listed here. This would include specific abilities that are, for example, abilities certain devil clans have or just abilities that are linked to a rank, we need to make that clear moving forward.


Now let's get started

This is just straight-up reversed Psychology, the scan talks about how Devils are weak to light, and therefore stronger at night, due to being weakened during the day. So it's not Empowerment but rather a straight-up weakness.

I think it's has no problem since they get stronger at night
But also get a weakness since they get weaker at morning

So the two examples of Aura that every devil is supposed to have come from high-class devils and a reincarnated devil with a Great Dragon king as his Sacred gear... Yeah, no this is not an ability that every devil has, as the page would claim, but rather only for high-class devils, or beings of similar strength.

Yeah both examples are not valid to be a general case since they are High-class and Saji who is not an ordinary Low-class.

While this is mostly fine, I bolded the part I have problems with, Why? Simple, Only High-class devils of social status can own a peerage, again it's not a general devil thing.

Agree

Where does Physics Manipulation come from?

I don't know exactly

Alright, to start things off, it's again talking about specifically Saji instead of a general devil thing. However, that ain't even the worst part of it... That is how this entire conversation is in Flowery Language, talking about how his "Fist can be filled to with a dream or a soul." And let's not even begin to talk about how the same paragraph talks about reaching the core of the opponent's BODY, not soul, mind you. So, to conclude, if you have a dream or something you truly want you can make your attacks stronger, and the scan shows no indication of attacking the soul.

So Sairaorg can use Touki cool, now tell me how this helps prove that it is universal for devils to be capable of manipulating the soul...

Yah scan are not valid

But touki can affect soul

Does this ability have any more proof than the People from the Church being able to exorcise some evil spirits, and Devils being frequently ASKED to do it... They don't show proof of them doing it, but rather just being asked if they can get help with it...

Yah they can

Now let's get started with the Ressisatnces on the page, where the same rule applies, only universal resistances for all Devils.


First of

Alright, before We gonna talk about this, let's show the ability they are resisting on the same page...

So wow, Devils are capable of seeing through Illusion magic that is meant to keep normal humans (non-supernatural beings) unaware that they exist... Yeah, this resistance needs to go, since they are basically resisting something that doesn't even affect them in the first place...

Agree

This is not a devil-specific thing, nor is that mentioned anywhere, but rather, it's just a willpower thing. Since it's mentioned, he could resist through his willpower.

Yah I also think

Can Someone explain to me how a resistance that is specifically mentioned to be from the demonic energy of a Maou descendent is a universal resistance to devils?

Yah because of the scan i agree with you

Can someone explain to me how something that only Issei has proof and mentions of doing is a universal resistance to the devil kind? Also, if the soul manipulation part gets accepted, the Saji justification will be removed for Issei.

Agree

Wow, you are telling me that Devils can resist diseases that affect other species and not their own? But seriously it only explains how reincarnated Devils can't be affected by diseases that affected their previous race... This is not a resistance by any means.

I agree because they no longer can get affected with diseases

 

[MasqueTLDF]

DxD Already has 3 Active CRTS, Wait until one of them is done before continuing this thread.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/staff-needed-dxd-gods-abstract-existence-concept-manip-more.175136/
https://vsbattles.com/threads/simple-dxd-ability-additions-and-fixes.176456/

Thread 'High School DxD Downgrade: 2-A Cosmology'

Jan 19, 2025

I have been planning this downgrade for a long time.

The 2-A rating of the cosmology was accepted in this thread, a thread where we were all fooled by this sandbox that we didn't read, especially the scans.

Well, it's all well and good that I say we were fooled, now we have to prove it. First I agreed with the thread to upgrade cosmology without reading the blog, just because the OP mentioned infinite possibilities and was trying to argue Low 1-C, which was my main point of contention, neglecting the rest. So cosmology is 2-A using the Many-World Interpretation argument...

• Digital_Franz
• high school dxd tier 2-a tier 2-c
• Replies: 207
• Forum: Content Revision

• 

Up to three active content revision threads can be open for any verse. If three active content revision threads are in progress, the community must conclude one before creating a new one. Content Revision threads become inactive after remaining idle for at least one month.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

I think it's has no problem since they get stronger at night
But also get a weakness since they get weaker at morning

The problem is that they don't get stronger due to getting a power boost in the night, but rather the light from the sun stops weakening them. So there is no form of empowerment.

But touki can affect soul

Not my point, All I said was that his being able to use Touki has nothing to do with the devil's physiology.

Yah they can

Alright, I agree with this due to reasons presented by @Digital_Franz

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

DxD Already has 3 Active CRTS, Wait until one of them is done before continuing this thread.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/staff-needed-dxd-gods-abstract-existence-concept-manip-more.175136/
https://vsbattles.com/threads/simple-dxd-ability-additions-and-fixes.176456/

Thread 'High School DxD Downgrade: 2-A Cosmology'

Jan 19, 2025

I have been planning this downgrade for a long time.

The 2-A rating of the cosmology was accepted in this thread, a thread where we were all fooled by this sandbox that we didn't read, especially the scans.

Well, it's all well and good that I say we were fooled, now we have to prove it. First I agreed with the thread to upgrade cosmology without reading the blog, just because the OP mentioned infinite possibilities and was trying to argue Low 1-C, which was my main point of contention, neglecting the rest. So cosmology is 2-A using the Many-World Interpretation argument...

• Digital_Franz
• high school dxd tier 2-a tier 2-c
• Replies: 207
• Forum: Content Revision

• 

Up to three active content revision threads can be open for any verse. If three active content revision threads are in progress, the community must conclude one before creating a new one. Content Revision threads become inactive after remaining idle for at least one month.

So you can't debunk my Arguments, and so Decided to go around it? Wow, but either way no of the Upgrades seems to be getting any staff, and one of them has been open for over a month. I see no reason to close this..

 

[MasqueTLDF]

So you can't debunk my Arguments, and so Decided to go around it? Wow, but either way no of the Upgrades seems to be getting any staff, and one of them has been open for over a month. I see no reason to close this..

Uh, I think you're misunderstanding, there can only be a maximum of three CRTS open at a time. At least including CRTs who's last interaction dates back to less than a month ago and isn't already completed. And I'm not doing this out of malice, if I was, I think it's pretty clear I'd go for the bigger fish in the pond. Just follow the rules and we're all good.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

I have the same opinion as @Digital_Franz here, except for Empowerment.

While it does imply that they are stronger at night because during day time, they are exposed to light, however, it seems that light and darkness have opposing properties here, so if light weakens them, then darkness making them stronger is not far off the norm.

However, since there is no direct statement in the scan, I am neutral to this part for now.

 

[SCARECROW1983]

Alright, I have come to realize how a lot of DxD stuff has been passed that should have clearly not have been, In today's CRT, we will focus on the Devil Physiology DxD Page.


First I would like to show what it says on the Page itself

This means that all abilities and resistance that are not universal for the devil race should NOT be listed here. This would include specific abilities that are, for example, abilities certain devil clans have or just abilities that are linked to a rank, we need to make that clear moving forward.


Now let's get started

This is just straight-up reversed Psychology, the scan talks about how Devils are weak to light, and therefore stronger at night, due to being weakened during the day. So it's not Empowerment but rather a straight-up weakness.


So the two examples of Aura that every devil is supposed to have come from high-class devils and a reincarnated devil with a Great Dragon king as his Sacred gear... Yeah, no this is not an ability that every devil has, as the page would claim, but rather only for high-class devils, or beings of similar strength.

I agree with this.

While this is mostly fine, I bolded the part I have problems with, Why? Simple, Only High-class devils of social status can own a peerage, again it's not a general devil thing.

Here you are lying, all the demons have a pact with different beings which they can summon, we have examples such as the invocations of Akeno, the dragon of Asia and the cat of Koneko.

Where does Physics Manipulation come from?

I agree with this

Alright, to start things off, it's again talking about specifically Saji instead of a general devil thing. However, that ain't even the worst part of it... That is how this entire conversation is in Flowery Language, talking about how his "Fist can be filled to with a dream or a soul." And let's not even begin to talk about how the same paragraph talks about reaching the core of the opponent's BODY, not soul, mind you. So, to conclude, if you have a dream or something you truly want you can make your attacks stronger, and the scan shows no indication of attacking the soul.

Don't they literally fight souls in one volume of the novel? And don't they also say that they can create bodies and put souls in them?

Also, Saji's thing applies to all demons and it wasn't used because it consumes the vitality of whoever uses it.

So Sairaorg can use Touki cool, now tell me how this helps prove that it is universal for devils to be capable of manipulating the soul...

All demons have the ability to use touki, they would just have to know how to use it.

Does this ability have any more proof than the People from the Church being able to exorcise some evil spirits, and Devils being frequently ASKED to do it... They don't show proof of them doing it, but rather just being asked if they can get help with it...

Volume 1: Rias says that when you are exorcised, there is nothing left recharging, that not even your soul is saved

Edit - The NPI can stay, due to arguments presented by @Digital_Franz, but the Purification still needs to go. Also, I would love the scans for it.



Now let's get started with the Ressisatnces on the page, where the same rule applies, only universal resistances for all Devils.


First of

Alright, before We gonna talk about this, let's show the ability they are resisting on the same page...

So wow, Devils are capable of seeing through Illusion magic that is meant to keep normal humans (non-supernatural beings) unaware that they exist... Yeah, this resistance needs to go, since they are basically resisting something that doesn't even affect them in the first place...

Volume 1: Newly reincarnated Issei who could not teleport says since he became a demon humans cannot perceive him and in the novel we are told that they are from a place beyond the perception, Furthermore, we are shown that just by having magic or any energy, you already have immunity to this.

This is not a devil-specific thing, nor is that mentioned anywhere, but rather, it's just a willpower thing. Since it's mentioned, he could resist through his willpower.

I agree with this.

Can Someone explain to me how a resistance that is specifically mentioned to be from the demonic energy of a Maou descendent is a universal resistance to devils?

This was also seen with vali and there is no difference between demonic powers the only difference is not the demonic power but the power of the demon itself

Can someone explain to me how something that only Issei has proof and mentions of doing is a universal resistance to the devil kind? Also, if the soul manipulation part gets accepted, the Saji justification will be removed for Issei.

Riser also demonstrated said resistance through his regeneration, the same with Kokabier, and literally multiple times we are told that Issei has nothing special, the only thing he has is Booster Gear.

Wow, you are telling me that Devils can resist diseases that affect other species and not their own? But seriously it only explains how reincarnated Devils can't be affected by diseases that affected their previous race... This is not a resistance by any means.

Why not? They are literally immune to all human diseases and there is only one specific disease that affects them.

I fail to see how this is a resistance of any kind.

That is not an argument for why it would not be a resistance either.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Here you are lying, all the demons have a pact with different beings which they can summon, we have examples such as the invocations of Akeno, the dragon of Asia and the cat of Koneko.

Uh are you sure you understand there? What you are mentioning is the pact with familiars which of course is not a problem. Read again.

Don't they literally fight souls in one volume of the novel? And don't they also say that they can create bodies and put souls in them?

Needs scan showing they fight souls because here they just fight spirits.

Also, Saji's thing applies to all demons and it wasn't used because it consumes the vitality of whoever uses it.

Yeah and imbuing his fist with energy, his soul is not Soul Manipulation because the opponent's soul is not manipulated and in addition he converts his soul into energy, which consumes vitality.

All demons have the ability to use touki, they would just have to know how to use it.

They have the potential but don't know how to use it so I don't see why they should be given the ability.

Volume 1: Rias says that when you are exorcised, there is nothing left recharging, that not even your soul is saved

Ultimately they cannot purify by their own powers but need holy water. Yeah and you need scans too.

Volume 1: Newly reincarnated Issei who could not teleport says since he became a demon humans cannot perceive him and in the novel we are told that they are from a place beyond the perception, Furthermore, we are shown that just by having magic or any energy, you already have immunity to this.

Yeah sure but it isn't a resistance because they just see something normal people can't.

This was also seen with vali and there is no difference between demonic powers the only difference is not the demonic power but the power of the demon itself

And Vali isn't a Low-class demon so yeah no.

Riser also demonstrated said resistance through his regeneration, the same with Kokabier, and literally multiple times we are told that Issei has nothing special, the only thing he has is Booster Gear.

Literally what you're saying is that he's affected but regenerates so it doesn't add anything. Also, these two examples are not comparable to Low-class devils.

Why not? They are literally immune to all human diseases and there is only one specific disease that affects them.

Because yeah, you would give us Resistance to Disease Manipulation because we can't be affected by chicken diseases?

That is not an argument for why it would not be a resistance either.

The context. I go to the beach, to have a good time and since the sun can't burn me I get Resistance to Heat Manipulation while I can't even resist a small fire? Yeah no.

 

[Robo432343]

yes downgrade everything

 

[ShionAH]

So you can't debunk my Arguments, and so Decided to go around it?

Sadly its correct, since there is 3 active CRTs this should be closed until one of those finishes. (Unless any of these CRTs is dead)

If you see the other CRTs are not getting any attention or are simply not being bumped you could reopen this. Ultimately I think this rule is really annoying but we cannot really do anything.

Good job at the downgrades btw, I agree with OP

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Sadly its correct, since there is 3 active CRTs this should be closed until one of those finishes. (Unless any of these CRTs is dead)

If you see the other CRTs are not getting any attention or are simply not being bumped you could reopen this. Ultimately I think this rule is really annoying but we cannot really do anything.

Already talked with multiple staff, and they said this was fine to keep open, and yes, this was within the rules, as one of the three mentioned CRTs has been idle for over a month. and therefore falls under an exception for having only 3 CRTs per verse open.

Good job at the downgrades btw, I agree with OP

Noted. Also, thank you.

just for the ping

Waiting for some time, to see if you come back to change your mind, if not I will just add you to the votes, tomorrow.

 

[ShionAH]

CRTs has been idle for over a month.

Oh yeah then no need to close

 

[MasqueTLDF]

Already talked with multiple staff, and they said this was fine to keep open, and yes, this was within the rules, as one of the three mentioned CRTs has been idle for over a month. and therefore falls under an exception for having only 3 CRTs per verse open.

This isn't true. (Unless Jan 19th was "over a month ago")

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

This isn't true. (Unless Jan 19th was "over a month ago")

It is, and I have already gotten permission from the staff and showed them proof.

Now please stop derailing.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Op looks fine to me.

 

[Phoenks]

Empowerment is fine. It's simultaneously true that devils are weak to sunlight while also being empowered by the night.

Other than that, I agree.

 

[Dereck03]

Same opinion as Phoenks, though perhaps it can be changed to Limited Empowerment to avoid confusions.