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Five Nights at Freddy's Downgrades

ShionAH said:
Many World Interpretation
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And how can this be proven and what are our rules to know what's this and what isn't? I mean, the books have some very wild shit that sets them wildly apart of the normal game canon, like, you know, time travelling ball pits, fazgoo, and seabonnies. Haven't really read the books, but I have a vert basic understanding of what's shown in there.
 
Perequeliri993 said:
And how can this be proven and what are our rules to know what's this and what isn't? I mean, the books have some very wild shit that sets them wildly apart of the normal game canon, like, you know, time travelling ball pits, fazgoo, and seabonnies. Haven't really read the books, but I have a vert basic understanding of what's shown in there.
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Show me the proof of these being impossible to happen in the games. I think they should be merged actually
 
ShionAH said:
Show me the proof of these being impossible to happen in the games. I think they should be merged actually
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Burden of proof fallacy
"This is when someone attempts to make someone else prove a claim when the burden of proof is really on them to prove it. The burden of proof is always on the positive claim, and the person who makes the claim"

You inderectly claimed this are possible in the games, based on your claim of MWI things and how games scale to Fazbear Frights, but no evidence of this can be found. The games have mostly soul, illusions, and possibly agony related stuff, but nothing pointing towards things like the ones I mentioned above.
 
Perequeliri993 said:
Burden of proof fallacy
"This is when someone attempts to make someone else prove a claim when the burden of proof is really on them to prove it. The burden of proof is always on the positive claim, and the person who makes the claim"

You inderectly claimed this are possible in the games, based on your claim of MWI things and how games scale to Fazbear Frights, but no evidence of this can be found. The games have mostly soul, illusions, and possibly agony related stuff, but nothing pointing towards things like the ones I mentioned above.
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Perequeliri993 said:
I'm not saying this things are impossible, there is just no evidence to support that this things are there.
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MWI means its possible and the only difference is timeline difference which is not enough for different profiles irrc
 
The wiki seems to lack a page explaining MWI.
Even then, and assuming this is a MWI case, the animatronics could've been built in vastly different ways, being that the timelines both universes follow is so vastly different.
 
Perequeliri993 said:
The wiki seems to lack a page explaining MWI.
Even then, and assuming this is a MWI case, the animatronics could've been built in vastly different ways, being that the timelines both universes follow is so vastly different.
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No its not. They both have souls, remnant, discs, agony
 
ShionAH said:
No its not. They both have souls, remnant, discs, agony
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The thing is, assuming MWI, then they operate by the same rules, but have different timelines, different historical occurrences, and so, the animatronics could've been built in another way, since they are not humans, they can be made in many different ways.
 
Perequeliri993 said:
The thing is, assuming MWI, then they operate by the same rules, but have different timelines, different historical occurrences, and so, the animatronics could've been built in another way, since they are not humans, they can be made in many different ways.
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They are still canon to eachother saying the robots are different is just spectucalation. I dont think theres enough proof for them to be different profiles
 
now we have a profile for Nightmare Mangle
vsbattles.fandom.com

Nightmare Mangle

Nightmare Mangle is an antagonist in Five Nights at Freddy's 4. Tier: 9-C Name: Nightmare Mangle Origin: Five Nights At Freddy's Gender: Genderless Age: Unknown Classification: Nightmare version of Mangle, Monstrous animatronic Powers and Abilities: Peak Human Physical Characteristics...
vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com
 
i don’t think you can scale the animatronics to their alternate timeline counterparts

8-C fnaf would be hilarious though i’ll give you that
 
ShionAH said:
Yeah. I am working on aftons profile for fazbear frights now (He has midgodly lol 💀)
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i'll look into afton in the fazbear frights novels, see what i can cook for a profile.

regardless, this is about the games vesion, not any of the novels and books. lets stay on topic.
 
Comiphorous said:
i'll look into afton in the fazbear frights novels, see what i can cook for a profile.
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Sure any help is good (Come to discord too we can work on it), would be better if you looked at elenor though since she is important for Agony
 
ShionAH said:
So we have 3 superhuman calcs and how many below average?
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What do you mean 3 superhuman ones? There is an athletic one: the one I mentioned earlier that I tought was a camera flip but it was not (just have to recalc the distances), and then the springtrap venting superhuman one, which is most likely game mechanics. Well, there is also the original foxy jump, but that one is very much wrong, as explained by bigsmoke in his own calc: "withered foxy already has a calc, but it's completely scuffed. of course, it uses the wrong height for foxy, but that's fairly minor. the main problem is that the calc uses foxy's distance from the player when he's in the hall, but then uses the first frame of the jumpscare for its timeframe, giving us inflated results.".
 
Perequeliri993 said:
What do you mean 3 superhuman ones? There is an athletic one: the one I mentioned earlier that I tought was a camera flip but it was not (just have to recalc the distances), and then the springtrap venting superhuman one, which is most likely game mechanics. Well, there is also the original foxy jump, but that one is very much wrong, as explained by bigsmoke in his own calc: "withered foxy already has a calc, but it's completely scuffed. of course, it uses the wrong height for foxy, but that's fairly minor. the main problem is that the calc uses foxy's distance from the player when he's in the hall, but then uses the first frame of the jumpscare for its timeframe, giving us inflated results.".
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Ennard has one too doesnt he?
 
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BigSmoke4269 said:
Fan

AP/Dura: 9-C (Is made of metal, and was implied by Phone Dude to be capable of cutting off fingers)
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Fan profile whem?
BigSmoke4269 said:
AP/Dura: Likely 10-B (Their size should warrant this. Can overpower and possibly one-shot a small child), possibly higher with piercing damage (Has teeth and claws, but their actual capabilities have never been shown)
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I think just the size + beingh made of metal should still give them 9-C, specially from beingh armed with sharp metal teeth and claws
BigSmoke4269 said:
Speed: Unknown (Note: The nightmares do not blitz the player, they ambush him and then kill him with their vastly superior strength. This applies to the other animatronics as well, but the nightmares are the only ones with "blitzing" stated on their profiles afaik)
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Hum... we can actually see their speed using that one "map" cheat from the game, I could try to calc It if I can get a idea how big the house roons are
BigSmoke4269 said:
Speed: Likely Average Human (Should be comparable to Ballora, who can catch up to Mike and kill him as he crawls across her gallery)
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I feel like they are also calculable, from ballora moving in the room to the custom night apearances, or just scaling them to ennard in the secret ending moving from camera to camera, I can try calculating It later too

edit: seens like someone alread calculated It, lol
BigSmoke4269 said:
AP/Dura: 9-B (apparently monty broke that chain by punching it rather than using his claws, therefore the glamrocks should have 9-B physicals)
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Do we have the chain breaking calculated yet? just questioning


I don't have anything to say about the rest, all seen good, agreeded
 
well, seens like most of what I said was alread changed in the debate.... I'm lazy to look for the things, so I will wait to someone correct what I said saying "we alread did It" and link the calcs
 
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