- 32,835
- 38,108
Good news, the re-done calc wields 6-B results. Please lemme know if there are any errors.
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About the Punching speed i see that you used a superhuman speed timeframe, Twellas and I think that using a FTE timeframe for HNK fighters is more accurate.Good news, the re-done calc wields 6-B results. Please lemme know if there are any errors.
I used a 20.1168 m/s timeframe as a lowball. Perhaps I could use 34.3 m/s (The baseline speed we use for FTE stuff) as a high-end.About the Punching speed i see that you used a superhuman speed timeframe, Twellas and I think that using a FTE timeframe for HNK fighters is more accurate.
Would be great.I used a 20.1168 m/s timeframe as a lowball. Perhaps I could use 34.3 m/s (The baseline speed we use for FTE stuff) as a high-end.
What's the difference tho ?nah, FTE would be for multiple punches and combat stuff, peak human/superhuman is good here
if the low end gets accepted, Ken's 100% is gonna be basically High 6-B a few teratons away from 100, and his post-seals 100% is gonna be halfway through High 6-B.Good news, the re-done calc wields 6-B results. Please lemme know if there are any errors.
Which Soryu Tenra feat? Did Jasonsith calc it somewhere?KLOL, would you be willing to look a at the Soryu Tenra feat again, because it looks wonky to me; it's not that I saw some errors or I think it's wrong, it's just that I get the feeling that there's something wrong with it
If the storm was created with the sheer force of their punches and kicks, it'd scale no doubt.Also, the fight between Liu and Ken was what caused that supercell cloud to form in the first place, but I'm not sure if it can be traced back to AP or if it's just environmental destruction. It was something like "the avatar of Hokuto" who created to cloud, but I also recall it entering Kasumi or some shit like that, I'm gonna have to check again
The logic behind the calculations from KLOL is horrible.Has @Jasonsith finished with writing his calculations blog? If so, I can ask the rest of the calc group to evaluate it.
I only made the calc based on what Twellas showed me with the scans. Also the cloud distance from the ground was based on using the angsizing using the hole and panel height, and it's lower than the thickness you originally assumed to be.The logic behind the calculations from KLOL is horrible.
1. He tries to argue that Raoh punches a bigger hole in an instant when it is seen only a small hole is being punched through.
The claim light shines upon the ground etc does not mean the whole cloud is punched away.
2. His calculated cloud distance from ground is much higher than what normally able to form.
Since KE = 0.5 m v^2, the combination of errors by KLOL will inflate the yields a lot.
There can be other issues I am just listing two that immediately spots me.
It's okay Ant, I wasn't gonna post the calc to a blog just yet, I was just waiting for further confirmation from other calc members and Twellas for the context. Now that I know that there are some errors with my calc, I'll wait to see the other evaluations on Jasonsith's calcs.Let's all please try to calm down and be polite here. KLOL506 is a nice guy, even if he made a mistake in this particular case.
Anyway, should I ask other calc group members to evaluate your blog Jason?
You talking about the feat that covered Ningbo with the old calc? Just to clarify.BTW, I also think we should look at the Soryu Tenra feat again because I'm starting to wonder if scaling Kasumi to Ken is even a valid comparison, when every successor of Hokuto Shinken in better than the last by default, Raoh Ken and Toki being refered to as the strongest Hokuto Shinken users already early on and Toki being stated to have reached a level of finesse never before seen in Hokuto. I think it might be best to scale Kasumi strictly to his own feats, such as the Soryu Tenra one
yes, Soryu Tenra dissipated a supercell cloud that started in NingboYou talking about the feat thst covered Ningbo with the old calc? Just to clarify.
I agree.assuming the clouds to be situated as low as 200 m is also completely wrong.
Yeah that's pretty accurate, some of them are already on some profiles, but is missing for other Touki users.ok, the Touki abilities I have are
Touki Abilities
Empathic manipulation: Kasumi turns a tiger docile. (Souten no Ken, Chapter 211), Aura dulls murderous intent according to Liu (Souten no Ken, Chapter 145), Yasaka's instincts are numbed (Souten no Ken, Chapter 209),
Forcefield creation: Liu blocks Yasaka's kick (Souten no Ken, Chapter 208), Raoh's aura protects him (Hokuto no Ken, Chapter 66), Kolk halts a knife (Souten no Ken: Regenesis, Chapter 5)
Fear inducement: Ken's aura scares Black King (Hokuto no Ken, Chapter 66), Ken terrorizes Kaioh (Hokuto no Ken, Chapter 188), Kasumi terrorizes a fighter (Souten no Ken, Chapter 6)
Precognition: Liu reads Yasaka's aura (Souten no Ken, Chapter 208),
Astral Projection: Liu manifests his god of war (Souten no Ken, Chapter 209), Ken fights on as a soul (Hokuto no Ken, Chapter 187), hyoh manifests his god of hokuto (Hokuto no Ken, Chapter 195)
Telekinesis: Liu's aura makes debree float around him (Souten no Ken, Chapter 209), Kaioh lifts Ken (Hokuto no Ken, Chapter 186),
Attacks: Raoh's aura sends invisible attacks to Rei (Hokuto no Ken, Chapter 66),
Energy projection: Raoh energy projects (Hokuto no Ken, Chapter 66), Raoh punches clouds (Hokuto no Ken, Chapter 136), Liu energy projects and Kasumi dodges (Souten no Ken, Chapter 150), Liu energy projects again and Kasumi dodges it again (Souten no Ken, Chapter 218),
Power Nullification: Kaioh sucks fighting Ki (Hokuto no Ken, Chapter 185), Ki destroys passive abilities (Hokuto no Ken, Chapter 208)
Air manipulation: Ken's aura moves air (Hokuto no Ken, Chapter 67),
Flight: Raoh and Ken fly (Hokuto no Ken, Chapter 67)
Space Manipulation: Aryu Tenha creates a poket dimension (Hokuto no Ken, Chapter 193), Hyoh's ki passively bends space around him (Hokuto no Ken, Chapter 194), Liu's aura warps the space between Kasumi and him (Souten no Ken, Chapter 223)
Some stuff has a lot more feats (Empathic manip and fear inducement) but it's already on the profiles for the most part
@JasonsithWell, once Jason is finished, we need other calc group members to evaluate his calculations.