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Fire Emblem Discussion thread: New Forum, New Mystery of the Emblem
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Oh yeah, they did. I think I remember asking about it on the Discord too, and their answer was basically the same (granted, I don't think they realized that Engage would allow for Heroes scaling, but the main researchers weren't the ones answering my questions since they weren't there).
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Ah, my first ninja/snipe!
Oh, I guess that reminds me that I should probably put my pronouns in my bio, or something like that (they are he/him/his, if you were wondering).
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I meant to reply to this post with my gloating, but this works as well.
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Thank you, I'm terrible at pronouns so I tend to default to neutral for most people.
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Oh, don't worry about it. That's a perfectly good approach to take, especially online.
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I'm also being reminded...I was working on a Heroes profile for Rennac as a meme/joke when he was first released because "haha, this niche character is actually 2-A"
But that was before all our revision agreements. I suppose when we get around to it I can use that as a template for a canon Rennec profile...
But that was before all our revision agreements. I suppose when we get around to it I can use that as a template for a canon Rennec profile...
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I think it's hilarious that Kent of all people is 2-A/1-C, and I hate and love it. I think it'd be great to make a profile for him as a joke.
(I don't have anything against Kent, he just shows up too much in my rolls, and I can never remember who is who among the GBA lance-wielding cavalry. The only reason I'm picking on Kent is because he's the only one whose name I can remember right now).
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It's great, and very dumb.
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Same, Nice to meet you, I'm somewhat new and still getting my bearings on scaling and yea it's funny 2-A Wrys is a thing
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Especially when they're really dumb ones like Hot Springs Hinoka where she just wears a towel and throws buckets(?) at her opponents.
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Nice to meet you, too!
Scaling is pretty weird, but it's fun.
Yeah, 2-A/1-C Wrys is top tier comedy (and I also hate it because that man will not leave me alone when I roll for characters in Fire Emblem Heroes).
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Oh, on a side note, I mentioned the Engage cast scaling to Heroes via Veronica on the Death Battle Discord, and a lot of people told me it was an outlier. I thought that was a little weird, but eh, that's their opinion and they're free to have it.
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Was also told that a while back. It can’t really be an outlier, since Veronica would either be the only 1-C character in Engage, or she would be downgraded to 5-B or whatever, and neither really make sense.
Basically, saying that it’s an outlier is saying that Veronica shouldn’t scale to herself.
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Mostly because Heroes displays feats that are so far above the rest of the franchise that they’re better off as their own keys. Also Heroes can become stronger and gain new abilities as a result of being summoned, as seen with Arcane Grima.
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I think technically even without Veronica some of the 2-A stuff should already work for Awakening world and Fates lore because of Anankos so most of them Emblems should still be high up there for comparison
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I agree, it didn't really make sense. There was also that statement of Sombron having infinite power, but I think they kind of threw it out, which I guess is fair since it was just a statement (but it has a good amount of stuff backing it up).
The other debate I saw was whether or not the DLC was canon (the consensus from what I can tell is that it's canon), which I thought was just... strange.
I think there was also a debate about whether or not the Emblems have the same strength as their normal counterparts, which I think the consensus ended up being, "yes."
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I guess that's kind of fair.
Wasn't that just her gaining a new weapon, or am I thinking of a different Grima alt?
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I think I brought that up on the server, and I was told that it was an outlier too.
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Same Grima, but yea, that's just an example of how characters can become stronger via being summoned.
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Yea it's probably a hyperbole, since not a lot of context is given.
No reason it shouldn't be canon. The DLC characters are probably gonna make their way into FEH sooner or later, either way.
The existence of Emblem Alear kinda disproves this, since it's been consistently stated that Alear became much stronger as a result of becoming an Emblem.
Also, the Emblems would have had to become stronger, otherwise all of scaling in FE kinda just breaks, since the Emblems are all implied to be more or less comparable to each other. As a result of that, everyone would scale to everyone, and it would just be a mess.
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People treat canon for different series weirdly, I think there's a lot stigma against Heroes because it's a Mobile Gacha Game even though it's directly considered a mainline game and canon, But people also treat things like the Castlevania Judgement as mainline canon without a second thought but when it comes to Heroes I see a lot of people firmly against it
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Not trying to make an argument but imagine if Engage didn't get Heroes scaling and Sombron gets absolutely wrecked some time after the bad ending by going to Zenith or something
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Yeah, it's pretty weird. I think it's just because of the (honestly, pretty fairly deserved) stigma around mobile games and especially gacha games.
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Doesn’t that imply that non emblem versions are also more or less comparable?
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I mean, I wouldn't call regular Leif and Sigurd comparable
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Yeah, Sigurd is like way OP compared to Leif; especially with his Holy Blood.
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In their own narratives, especially when certain weapons come into the picture, Lords within their own shared games tend to have some sort of difference in power (Sigurd/Leif, Ike/Micaiah Lyn/Hector, Lucina/Chrom, Dimitri/Edelgard/Claude/Byleth)
Engage's narrative puts the emblems in the same ballpark, with mentions of a 6v6 being an even fight or comparing Veronica to Hector in the Fell Xenologue
Engage's narrative puts the emblems in the same ballpark, with mentions of a 6v6 being an even fight or comparing Veronica to Hector in the Fell Xenologue
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Yeah, Hector is like so strong, he compared Eliwood and Lyn's sword strikes to rain drops. And Ike is officially the strongest FE lord besides maybe some Heroes characters + Alear.
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Hey, at least we're getting Yggdrasil, right? That could lead to some pretty big upgrades depending on what happens since the trailer stated that it holds the Nine Realms.
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Well, there's that confirmation at least
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