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Interesting. But the moon Arthur cut off was a lot different. And it seems maybe in future it iwll become this, but so far, I don't think we have any direct confirmation that it's smaller. By so far, I mean in fire force.
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Interesting. But the moon Arthur cut off was a lot different. And it seems maybe in future it iwll become this, but so far, I don't think we have any direct confirmation that it's smaller. By so far, I mean in fire force.
Wellllllllllll, no. That's just one page and unfortunately it's a page where she comments on how she's literally being crushed. She tries to put up a determined front but immediately after, she gets overwhelmed again, evident by her facial expression depicting shock and balance loss, and the bleeding from her nose. Plus, the manga immediately cuts to the other brigadiers looking for alternatives, also alluding to the fact that Maki was way out of her league. Disagree on this one as it's not at all absolute.
No again. Nothing that was said actually implies such an objective claim. She was told to try and she failed, that's pretty much it. That the moon had a mass alteration does not imply that she could have done it if it was a regular moon, especially when she has no feats on that level prior to the scene. You could infer that Charon's suicide blast was 5-C in actuality but that is way too much speculation. Plus, even so, displaying such AP for that brief a moment shouldn't warrant that rating, especially when she gets totally humiliated by a much weaker-than-5-C opponent later on. Disagree.she was sure that she could deflect a falling moon
This does not make the implication you think it does. He provided one reason why he couldn't bring the moon down, nothing suggests that it's the only reason. Moreso, if it were in range, he would obviously be able to shoot it. To destroy it though? Nothing shown prior suggests that.the reply was not “No” but “It is out of range”
This is definitely the case because the moon was hanging in the atmosphere prior, destroyed or disappeared after the cataclysm and created by ShinraThis kind of shows that the change happened after shinrabanshoman does his reality warping.
So it does not really affect the OP claims
Most of all you said has already been addressed in the OP, but i felt I need to at least tell you. yes, Assault and tamaki scales to this, refer to the previous thread which was about scaling. And how it works is, A beats B, and C beats A, that means that C scales to A.stuffs
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Thats why i linked the charon self destruct feat first to show that her reflection ability indeed scales to her stats, and it has been shown previously to scale. i originally wanted to make it a LS feat which it is still btw but thats for another threadi do agree maki attempting to stop the moon isnt really an ap feat for her
I mean it was only shown to be smaller when it was falling and no where else till after the end of Haumea and SBM fight where Shinra altered everything making the moon even smaller than what was portrayed when it was falling.If it is that inconsistent, I wouldn't use the Moon at all. It seems like a large highball to assume it must have exactly the same mass as before.
Can someone sum up or link the most relevant posts to the discussion for me please
These seem alright but what's bothering me is the size of the moon... why does it have a face and appears small? This could just be the shot/angle but it just looks small and not the
actually moon. Now I don't know the series at all so if you could give me some detail on the moon being like that, it would be helpful.
This is just the unique artstyle, we clearly see it's still the same size as normal when compared to Earth
Still though it literally changed between chapters 298 and 299 when shinra changed the world prior 299 in 298 it looked like this
Afterwards it looked like this
well I guess let me here what other people have to say but I must say Pixel scaling when we have different shots of its would make it more inconsistentSo my issue with using the outer space shots to say anything about the moon is it’s physical size depends on its distance from the observer and the angular size. And it’s orientation with respect to the earth is at an unknown angle as well. Aka those outer space scans don’t tell us much of anything without some assumptions. Furthermore, we know the transmutation alters shape and size (as seen with the stars), so I’m in favor of pixel scaling the moon (as I think one of the moon calcs does). Whether that be from using angular sizes and distances or from in atmosphere shots is up to y’all.
well personally for me "High 6-A, possibly 5-C" worksI am not really familiar with the verse, but the proposals seem reasonable. If the moon feat has many issues, perhaps High 6-A, possibly 5-C or High 6-A, possibly higher work better.
Yes’m just Maki and those who scales to herIs this in terms of maki? Because those like shinra and beni should outright be 5-B and at least 5-B so if this is in terms of the maki scaling I'm fine with that
Because Maki crumbled under the pressure of the moon? Nope. Maki got crushed on both attempts, lost balance immediately and bled. The attempt to justify her alleged 5-C revision makes no sense. Why would someone scale to moon level for getting literally overwhelmed by its pressure? Too much speculation, too many details being ignored and not enough logic, not sure when that became acceptable.Assault and tamaki scales to this
I honestly feel like you did not read the OPBecause Maki crumbled under the pressure of the moon? Nope. Maki got crushed on both attempts, lost balance immediately and bled. The attempt to justify her alleged 5-C revision makes no sense. Why would someone scale to moon level for getting literally overwhelmed by its pressure? Too much speculation, too many details being ignored and not enough logic, not sure when that became acceptable.
I didn't say the leap was insane, the AP itself is insane (=as in, simply very massive).
I literally dissected it. Well, point out what I'm supposedly missing.I honestly feel like you did not read the OP
The points?I literally dissected it. Well, point out what I'm supposedly missing.
Points I addressed and debunked as speculative?The points?
It's almost like you're saying you could lift a small car because a truck crushed you when you attempted lifting it, isn't that purely assumptionAnd also she only got crushed cause the moon mass has been increased to be at least the mass of the earth
More like you can lift a small car because you didn't die the first time you attempted to lift a truck.It's almost like you're saying you could lift a small car because a truck crushed you when you attempted lifting it, isn't that purely assumption
@Arc7Kuroi @Cyberblader90 and well everyone elsewell personally for me "High 6-A, possibly 5-C" works
Let me see what other people thinks
That seems fine.
Second generations ability to control things scales to their stats e.g. reflection and deflection. Maki was trying to use hers to deflect the moonI dont see what the problem is here. Maki got crushed by a moon that had mass equal to that of earth but whether she pushed it back or held on for a moment isn't this just a LS feat and not AP?
Oh, I see, forgot about this. Then she should get a possibly rating then as I see nothing wrong with this.Second generations ability to control things scales to their stats e.g. reflection and deflection. Maki was trying to use hers to deflect the moon
Powercliffing? Thats a term I'm not familiar withEveryone acting like they have never seen powercliffing before, I mean watch the hellholes called Naruto and Bleach
That’s fine.
when is next thread? who posting it?Bumping one last time before the next thread
Me, this weekendwhen is next thread? who posting it?
WWWWWW PFPSooooo....What's been going on with the outdate FF profiles exactly?
Just go to the fire brigade discussion thread and you'll know literally just interact with the communitySooooo....What's been going on with the outdate FF profiles exactly?