Fiamma of the Right VS. Wolfgang Schreiber

[Cultivator_Daemon]

Round 3 of I already did this on Comicvine so I'll do it here, however, I also did this on Spacebattles and plan to do it again on two different sites.

- Base Fiamma and Restricted Schreiber (Schreiber is already in True Briah)

- Speed is equalized.

- In-Character.

Fiamma of the Right:

Wolfgang Schreiber:

Inconclusive:

 

[XDragnoir]

So, Wolf isn't High 1A here, right? So BFR and Sealing gg.

 

[Cultivator_Daemon]

So, Wolf isn't High 1A here, right? So BFR and Sealing gg.

High 1-A Anna is his Legion Reincarnation key.

 

[XDragnoir]

Yeah, then Wolf has nearly no chance of winning this, also, if he isn't H1C, what is his AP?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

What stops Schreiber from blitzing and soul haxing here?

 

[Planck69]

How does Fiamma deal with Low Godly, soul-hax and speed amps again?

 

[XDragnoir]

BFR and Sealing, and his attack doesn't need travel time.

 

[Bigideas-Baggins]

If he is already in true Briah, doesn't he just soul hax passively or pseudo-passively, with the glare thing and all that stuff?

 

[XDragnoir]

Fiamma has resistance to soul hax, and the HR can act on his own.

 

[Planck69]

How good is the resistance?

 

[Eganergo]

Basic. Fiamma can still act while his soul is pulled out from his body. Meanwhile Schriber soul hax is... yeah.

 

[XDragnoir]

After the forum move, i will redo the thread about grimoires and soul hax, since it wasn't concluded. Basically, souls in index aren't "well explained" and thus sometimes it is mentioned it is talking about life force, others it is talking about souls, if we take the grimoires as being soul-corrosive instead of life force, then Fiamma is able to read 103.000 grimoires, and even a "small piece" should be able to damage souls.

 

[Eganergo]

Even then, it only damage and not outright erase/destroy. It's impressive on its own, but compared to Wolfgang? He can absorb or directly destroy souls. Even damage to his soul will only chip his stock, unless the damage is more than 185,731 souls.

 

[Schnee_One]

Wolfgang briahs and blitzes before Fiamma can react

 

[Eganergo]

Fiamma briahs and blitzes before Fiamma can react

Wait.

 

[XDragnoir]

A "small piece" would at least do damage, a full grimoire could possibly destroy someone's soul and mind, and Fiamma doesn't need to damage his soul/body, he has BFR, also, what is the range of Wolf's soul hax? Fiamma normally TPs to the other side of world and HR snips.

 

[Schnee_One]

He's done that about half the time funnily enough, nor does it matter because Wolfgang can briah blitz

 

[Eganergo]

As far as he can see and screams. His range is Hundreds km normally though. Fiamma won't have any other chance if he can't win the first round, because Wolfgang would already be faster than any action he can take.

 

[XDragnoir]

He's done that about half the time funnily enough, nor does it matter because Wolfgang can briah blitz

You know that speed is equal and he starts at True Briah, right? I think "briah blitz" shouldn't be a thing here.

 

[Eganergo]

What do you mean? True Briah Wolfgang still have the same effect as his restricted Briah with extra steps.

 

[Schnee_One]

Uhh.

True Briah passively Amps speed beyond the opponents level

So no, Wolfgang blitz

 

[Planck69]

You know that speed is equal and he starts at True Briah, right? I think "briah blitz" shouldn't be a thing here.

1. The fact that Wolfgang is naturally faster means that speed amps are still very much allowed in this fight.

2. True Briah still grows faster than his opponents.

 

[XDragnoir]

So, speed equal doesn't mean anything? Okay, but his starting speed is the same as Fiamma, right? And Fiamma's speed is normal human, so Wolf will still need more time to blitz Fiamma (and HR). While Fiamma only needs to move one hand to bfr and HR can act by itself anyway.

 

[Schnee_One]

Wolfgang reacts to HRs speed though, besides Fiamma never BFR or seals immediately, ever. So after the first time, Wolfgang adapts to speed, and blitzes

 

[XDragnoir]

HR adapts to the best way of defeating his target, which is BFR and Sealing here.

 

[Eganergo]

Passive >>> automatic. Fiamma would be dead before HR could do anything.

Also, you misunderstood greatly if you think Wolfgang only adapt to movement speed. He also adapt to combat and attack speed.

 

[XDragnoir]

Ahhhh then the soul hax is passive? I thought he had to activate it, so, Fiamma's soul is destroyed at the start, should i say it is a stomp now or i should wait?

 

[Schnee_One]

HR adapting isn't proof that it will BFR and seal immediately, reacting to a person's strength is not the same as switching abilities and attacks, there is zero proof of that. HR isn't aware of the fact that Wolfgang can regenerate either, and it has no idea if needs to adapt either, and given Wolfgangs relic comes from a 1A....Yeah no

Fiamma can't even hit Wolfgang and gets killed instantly

 

[XDragnoir]

So he has 1A stuff? Why did you wait all this time to say that? Yeah just close this stomp, for real, why do people even use Shinza Characters against verses without 1A hax?

 

[Schnee_One]

Dude with all so respect. It's on his file. Read it.

 

[XDragnoir]

I asked if he was H1A in the first post, they said he wasn't, i thought he didn't have anything 1A here.

 

[Schnee_One]

He doesn't have 1A Hax, but his relic originates from there, so it's NLF to assume Fiammas HR would adapt and seal immediately to an opponent it can't analyze.

Speaking of stuff on the file, Fiamma is the last character I expect to have a finished file.

 

[Malox1696]

I'm sorry but wouldn't fiamma attack stop him ? I mean it's mentioned in the weakness section that attack that he does not excpect and hit him will make him stop, fiamma could just spam

 

[Eganergo]

Yeah, true briah would make him explode on touch and deal physical+soul damage. Not to mention Wolfgang passive soul hax with his glare. I don't think Fiamma can do anything in this situation.

And don't make me bring up his High 1A explosion. Jk OvO

 

[XDragnoir]

I mean, his profile doesn't say his soul hax is passive (nearly no profile says which hax is passive) so i thought Fiamma wouldn't die passively, but now this fight is just a Reiatsu Crush GG.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I'm sorry but wouldn't fiamma attack stop him ? I mean it's mentioned in the weakness section that attack that he does not excpect and hit him will make him stop, fiamma could just spam

That's his first Briah, he gets touched and thus his desire broken or something like that which makes him use his true Briah which is what's happening here.

Being touched in this form (if he ever gets touched) basically makes him explode because of the contradictions on his desires, this will obviously still damage the enemy and Wolffy just regen back

 

[Malox1696]

oh ok, i though he just stopped and had to restart , then this is prob a stomp

 

[Cultivator_Daemon]

Eh, since this match went well on the other two sites, I thought it would go well on here as well. Guess I was wrong.