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Anyway, for the 5-A, TTP can't actually affect sans (His EE goes up to Type 1 Nonexistence), so Sans wins this.

For 4-A, he should tie with the rest for 2nd, he aint getting past Flash.
 
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The corruption only spreads slowly on its own. When it's applied directly the effects are rather immediate.

(Assuming Type 1 refers to the Abstract Existence) the corruption can and has affected those as well, and death manip most likely does nothing here since Sans has no soul to steal anyway, being a projection and all.

Even if Flash could somehow reach the actual Sans inside the SD he'd have to wrestle with said entity for control over Sans' soul. It wouldn't even matter since being alive and having a soul aren't really necessary for Sans to be projected.
 
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The corruption only spreads slowly on its own. When it's applied directly the effects are rather immediate.

(Assuming Type 1 refers to the Abstract Existence) the corruption can and has affected those as well, and death manip most likely does nothing here since Sans has no soul to steal anyway, being a projection and all.

Even if Flash could somehow reach the actual Sans inside the SD he'd have to wrestle with said entity for control over Sans' soul. It wouldn't even matter since being alive and having a soul aren't really necessary for Sans to be projected.
What about Age manip?
 
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Doesn't work assuming it's time based. Also gets Flash corrupted on contact.


Sans comes back (and probably corrupts the Speed Force)
In speed unequal, Flash stomps with speed+age.

Time manipulation+time stop also.

Flash steals Sans's speed.

Also, his precog makes him see the outcome of the fight, so either way he can just escape.
 
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Age and time manip won't work at all though and Flash gets corrupted on contact or potentially just being in the vicinity.

Even if precog worked, "escaping" is just self-BFR
 
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Alright, so now that Die 2 has completed and his page has been updated...


I'm pretty sure Zephyr stomps the 6-A spot via 1-A passives, and he most likely takes High 6-B as well.
 
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This dude for 7-B
  • Immeasurable speed
  • Combative type 2 conceptual manipulation
  • High Godly regen and regen negation
  • NEP type 2
  • Any ability that grants passive madness manip, soul manipulation, pain manipulation, biological manipulation, darkness manip, absorption, spatial manipulation, power null, resistance neg, deconstruction, reality warping, and void manipulation
  • 2-A BFR
  • Immortality type 1,2,3,4, and 5 and can negate type 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 9
  • An ability that grants subjective reality that has EE that can reduce you into nothingness and can negate resistances
Not sure if he deserves a spot now, but he can be yeeted into the nominees
 
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I doubt 7-B is changing anytime soon. Colzin, S, and the Beast all have tier 1 (1-A in the case of the latter) smurfery. Hell, Jay Grimoire isn't even on the list, and literally all of his hax are Low 1-C or above.

Also

"To be on this list, your character must have detailed explanations on most of their abilities and why the character can use it (also, it's recommended that the character is of good quality anyways so that their chances of entering this list increases), so that we can prevent anyone from simply creating a character just to get on here."

Styln has no NA&T section, no justification for immeasurable, and a poorly-explained-at-best p&a section. Also in general, resistance to regeneration negation is an immense red flag
 
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Quality control standards say no.
This dude for 7-B
  • Immeasurable speed
  • Combative type 2 conceptual manipulation
  • High Godly regen and regen negation
  • NEP type 2
  • Any ability that grants passive madness manip, soul manipulation, pain manipulation, biological manipulation, darkness manip, absorption, spatial manipulation, power null, resistance neg, deconstruction, reality warping, and void manipulation
  • 2-A BFR
  • Immortality type 1,2,3,4, and 5 and can negate type 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 9
  • An ability that grants subjective reality that has EE that can reduce you into nothingness and can negate resistances
Not sure if he deserves a spot now, but he can be yeeted into the nominees
 
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btw, Infinite, i think Jay still beats perry with unequalized speed. His passives are smurfy beyond perry's resistances as far as I'm aware, and that's why he won in speed equalized
 
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Finally finished Vienna’s page after like a year, so here’s my case for her.

The verse is Thingverse (There are some other chars from this verse that also might make this list. Looking back on some of the shit in this RP I noticed how op it was)

The tiers I think she can make the list for are 9-A, High 8-C, 8-B, High 6-C, 6-B, 4-B, and 3-B.

Quite a lot...

Keys:
9-A - End of Series
High 8-C - Post-Envierna with God’s Blessing active
8-B - Envierna’s Blessing
High 6-C - End of Series
6-B - End of Series with God’s Blessing active
4-B - With Kagari’s Armor
3-B - With Kagari’s Armor

(The God's Blessing thing is an amp, so I counted it as a different key)

Notable things all of these keys have:
  • The Dimension Breaker: A sword that can cut through space, time, and dimensions. Dimensions referring to higher-realities that continuously multiply by 2 to infinity. She can cut on “all possible” dimensions, making the potency of its hax up to High 1-B.
  • Existence Erasure: With her sword, she can spatially erase people, even on higher-dimensional levels.
  • BFR: Vienna can spatially BFR people to random places like the moon, the middle of space, even other dimensions entirely. She can even BFR individual pieces she cuts off a person with her sword, down to the atom.
  • High Regeneration Negation.
  • Non-Physical Interaction: Her sword can cut abstracts, spirits, souls, ghosts, nonexistence, etc.
  • Supernatural Luck: Mostly unshown but a lot of the team her enemies end up missing her because they were “Fated to miss” by her luck.
  • Decent skill and precognition.
  • 1-A resistance to Madness and Mind Manipulation
End of Series Key:
  • Irrelevant Speed
  • Extreme AoE range for her sword’s spatial manipulation stuff. She spatially BFR’d an entire country with it.
Envierna’s Blessing Key:
  • Supernatural Luck: Pretty much passive 1-A probability manipulation since she warped the chance of someone with passive 1-A probability stuff’s chance of winning out of existence.
  • Immeasurable Speed
With Kagari’s Armor Key:
  • Irrelevant Speed
  • 1-A Durability negation with a lot of abilities
  • Mid-Godly Regeneration Negation
  • 1-A resistance to void, EE, probability, physics, and absorption

Note: She has no passives. As for the irrelevant speed whilst being 3-D, it's hard to explain...

I have no idea where she places for these tiers, but I think she's smurfy enough to at least get on them. I'm up for debating exactly where she'd place though.
 
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For 9-A: Wins via BFR (Since Iblis doesn't have much justification for their powers, this is assumed)

For High 8-C: Takes the top spot, that BFR and luck is nasty.

For 8-B: Takes top spot easily.

For High 6-C: If she can affect Type 1 AA, she due to passive BFR. If not, they tie.

For 6-B: How powerful is her BFR? This is 50/50.

For 4-B: Takes top spot.

For 3-B: Should tie up with the Starcross cast.

Waiting for your opinion and others to continue.
 
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4-B:

Speed unequal Mikage dies to sword yeah. Arguably killing her this way doesn't put her down for good but with Irrelevant speed it will inevitably happen eventually unless her opponent pulls some sort of CIS.

Speed equal though Vienna gets concept screwed or something.
 
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Perry blitzes and Jay yoinks her stats away/passives, so Pretty sure she doesn't get 6-B

Also, you can't be irrelevant without being 1-A
 
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I'll have to redo the irrelevant speed then. She's probably a really really high level of immeasurable or something. I was thinking about that after seeing the definition of Irrelevant.

If that's the case though I have a question: If you can perceive a 1-A being whilst obviously being 3-D yourself, do you have Irrelevant perception? The scenario is kind of like Yoko Littner from Gurren Laggan, except percieving a 1-A instead of a High 1-C.

Also my mistake, she's 3-C not 3-B. So uh, her vs Phaedra, it's hard to say... Both are my characters though so I guess whoever I say wins, wins? They tie in speed equal (Vienna resists her passives but gets one-shot by anything she does, whilst also one-shotting with the sword. So they tie), and Vienna stomps speed unequal (Blitz).

Perry blitzes an immeasurable? If Jay's power null/absorption thing is passive then yeah she gets stomped by that.
 
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Perry blitzes and Jay yoinks her stats away/passives, so Pretty sure she doesn't get 6-B

Also, you can't be irrelevant without being 1-A
If the passive BFR is strong enough to overcome Perrys defense, they should win. And ye, Jay wins.


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Speed unequal Mikage dies to sword yeah. Arguably killing her this way doesn't put her down for good but with Irrelevant speed it will inevitably happen eventually unless her opponent pulls some sort of CIS.

Speed equal though Vienna gets concept screwed or something.
I agree.
 

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wouldn't be surprised if half of that shit wasn't actually as smurfy as it's said to be due to lack of detail
 
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Yeah, could you tell me which parts of it are vague then?
NPI could be a bit more specific, that fact that she needs to swing to passively bfr, Kagari's Armour needs its powers and their potency to be more specific, and the BFR and EE seem to go against each other.
 
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NPI could be a bit more specific, that fact that she needs to swing to passively bfr, Kagari's Armour needs its powers and their potency to be more specific, and the BFR and EE seem to go against each other.


I listed at the bottom of the message I sent that she has no passives.

Vienna can both EE and BFR with the sword. It's Spatial Manipulation allows for both, but depends on what she's attempting to do. She can either spatially erase or BFR.

Does that make sense?

Actually, you can take out the Kagari armor keys entirely for now. I'll wait until Kagari's page is actually finished for that.
 
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amirite
 
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Also, you can't be irrelevant without being 1-A
Wait what? Since when? I know that being 1-A should give you irrelevant speed, but I've never heard about needing to be 1-A for it in general. I mean, heck, I have a character that can speed blitz 1-A's before she even gets to tier 2 (although the way she does it is very . . . odd to say the least). Anyways, things like irrelevant and immesurable speed describe more so how you move instead of what you are. For example immesurable speed simply means you can move along the time axis. Whether you are 2-,3- or 4-D doesn't really matter for this at all. Similarily, moving with irrelevant speed simply means you are moving "unbound" by space and time all together, acting like they don't even exist in the first place. They become "irrelevant" to the user in the most literal sense of the word. Now one might be quick to say "but how do you move a physical object in a beyond physical way" and to that I say... depends on the author. Obviously there needs to be some type of explanation for how it works, (some type of 1-A ability that allows them to move like that or sth like that), but it is by no means impossible.
 
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I see, so Irrelevant speed is likely being removed completely or having its definition changed. Interesting.
 
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yep. that aside, isn't the explanation on the profile a bit... "meh" anyways. I mean, it keeps saying she can keep up with/blitz other characters, who dont even have any profiles... so shouldn't you explain why they are as fast as they are? Or am I missing something?
 
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Sure, I myaswell just retract my proposal for now. I'll go and revise the profile since some of it isn't detailed enough, and wait until the other profiles are done.
 
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Wait, wouldn't Perry be the one getting blitzed?

The character in question with the 1-A sealing is irrelevant/immeasurable. They're from the same verse.

Just to keep the discussion going since the wikia is mostly dead, does Jay's power null or absorption activate automatically?

And are you guys are going to make any "strongest" matches to decide who takes the spots between the current nominees? I'd be interested in watching those play out.
 
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Wait, wouldn't Perry be the one getting blitzed?

The character in question with the 1-A sealing is irrelevant/immeasurable. They're from the same verse.

Just to keep the discussion going since the wikia is mostly dead, does Jay's power null or absorption activate automatically?

And are you guys are going to make any "strongest" matches to decide who takes the spots between the current nominees? I'd be interested in watching those play out.
Most can be decided by logic.
 
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Always has been that way.
If its not logically easy to figure then its too illogical to even attempt trying, let alone be worth it.
 
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I listed at the bottom of the message I sent that she has no passives.

Vienna can both EE and BFR with the sword. It's Spatial Manipulation allows for both, but depends on what she's attempting to do. She can either spatially erase or BFR.

Does that make sense?

Actually, you can take out the Kagari armor keys entirely for now. I'll wait until Kagari's page is actually finished for that.
@Phoenks Kagari's page ain't gonna be finished chief. Deimos when?
 
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Deimos gonna be revised.
Kagari will be finished... Eventually... If that man ain't dead.


Better question is FAYE when? We need 1-A sealing matches man
 
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