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The rules are simple:

  • Who's the strongest character(s) in their respective tiers?
  • There can be multiple characters in one tier, so long as either the match would end up as inconclusive, or it's divided up into either Speed Equalized or Speed Unequalized.
  • You can add your own characters.
  • Give reasoning as to why they're the strongest in that tier.
  • If nothing is put in parentheses next to the character's name [ex: Linx Rifelson (Blood Form)], then that means it's the character's strongest form.
  • The same character can be put in multiple tiers.
  • Stat amping or increasing power level beyond your character's Tier will not count, as that's going past the character's current tier. Hax that's above their tier, however, is still allowed.
  • To be on this list, your character must have detailed explanations on most of their abilities and why the character can use it (also, it's recommended that the character is of good quality anyways so that their chances of entering this list increases), so that we can prevent anyone from simply creating a character just to get on here.
  • For now, Tiers 1-A and 0 are considered No Contest, due to the hard-to-ascertain nature of powers on that scale.
  • Just for practicality's sake, here is the Tiering System.
Recently nominated:

Any info on these characters (whether they can be yeeted from the list or not) is appreciated.

Going through the list, looking for outdated stuff:

I should probably move the one's where there are open spots. Not sure about the others. Gonna wait for input.

Tier: Variable:

11-C

11-B

11-A

10-C

10-B

10-A

9-C

9-B

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9-A

8-C

High 8-C

8-B

8-A

Low 7-C

7-C

High 7-C

Low 7-B

7-B

7-A

High 7-A

6-C

High 6-C

Low 6-B

6-B

High 6-B

6-A

High 6-A

5-C

Low 5-B

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5-B

5-A

High 5-A

Low 4-C

4-C

High 4-C

4-B

4-A

3-C

3-B

3-A

High 3-A

Low 2-C

2-C

2-B

2-A

Low 1-C

1-C

High 1-C

Low 1-B

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1-B

High 1-B

 
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I believe we were discussing High 6-A, we already decided the both Colosseum and Jay beat Satan, but now we are trying to decide who would win between the two.

Note: This is 9th key Jay
 
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No, I believe 9th. Zephyros didn't bring up any issues with the 9th, so it's ok. (tho we can go to the 11th after we discuss the 9th)
 
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Yeah it's also quite outdated...

We might have an easier time just redoing the entire thing tbh.
 
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Also...

My character Phaedra was nominated for High 6-A, 5-C, 5-A, 4-A, 3-C, and Low 2-C a while back.

I'll give reasons later... Actually, I'm pretty sure they were on the other threads...

For now, just know some of her keys have passive 1-A mind manip.
 
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Thx

(I've somehow lost my progress 5 times already and it's starting to get on my nerves)
 
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If a character is, lets say, High 6-A, High 3-A with X ability/weapon/preparation/temporary power-up do they count as High 6-A or High 3-A on the list?
 
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Its just a weapon or ability they have, otherwise stand users on the VSB list would be in Tier 8. Prep is the only thing I can see reasonably throwing a wrench in that but for natural stuff they'd have on them I'd go with their physical tier.
 

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Well, I don't think my Batman is strong enough in the to be in the top, but he probs can be 3rd in High 6-A and 2nd in both 4-B and 4-A since they're empty.
 
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High 6-A with High 3-A abilities, *natural weapons (if all weapons are enabled then non-natural weapons can be applied) and prep qualify for High 6-A, the power up counts as along as it only affects anything EXCEPT ap, or if it buffs ap but the tier stays the same.
 

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Well, the buff is just an energy vial that grants you High 3-A attack power when absorbed and is then immediately exhausted after one strike. If prep is allowed my Bats maybe higher depending on levels of the opponents hax due to having a 2-A artefact and forcefield.
 

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Kk, I understand. He okay in being added in the spots that aren't taken, that I mentioned above?
 

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Wouldn't it be a good idea to start making vs threads to create discussion?
 
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Maybe, but nobody is commenting so it wouldn't go very far. Also, we can do semi-matches on here, and the ones that aren't clear cut will get matches.
 

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What the hell, might as well start some momentum.

How far into SSL and Massively FTL+ is Mikage? Batman is comes in at 2747.966869 Foe and 40,734,000,000,000c (Faster when amped temporarily)
 
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Mickage is anywhere from 10,000,000c to 99,999,999c. You should speed blitz, but how about in hax?

(nvm Mickage hax stomps)
 

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Sure

Edit: Yeah, the only major hax Batman has is Plot manip
 
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I think more people are focused on VSB CRTs at the moment.

To comment on a character I suggested; Plot Manipulation and Intelligence would I feel grant The Dealer a win for 4-C against Abyssion.

EDIT: Depression is also his thing. He also has a knack for making people want to kill themselves if that means anything here (See Blackjack).
 
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He rewrites the Plot so that he can win or that something really tragic happens to Abyssion.

Its mentioned in The Dealers profile but even other cosmically aware beings in the verse couldn't understand why things weren't going the way they were supposed to. For context the events of Friendship is Magic were what was supposed to happen in the verse; Fluttershy and Discord becoming friends, Anything involving Cadence/Twilights brother and Twilight becoming an actual Alicorn etc. The Dealer flat out tells it that was his doing why these events didn't come to pass. In doing so he mentioned rewriting entire characters backstories and the such just to get what he wanted (More suffering.)
 
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You really need to update that op, it's so behind.
 
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Characters from Save the World are likely going to take the Low 7-B spot


 

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I have one, but I'm saving it until we at least get to Set 3 and where I can actually have feats of Colis' upper limit for nonsense
 

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Why is Valev/Alri still on this list? I thought I asked for them to be removed a while ago, as I don't want to continue debating with them as well as update their positions due to TIC revisions.
 

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Just... edit it. You know how to edit your posts, right? You can update your post with the new rankings, you know, and remove the ones that shouldn't be there anymore?
 
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Just... edit it. You know how to edit your posts, right? You can update your post with the new rankings, you know, and remove the ones that shouldn't be there anymore?
you could have done without the snarky comment
Specifically what should be changed, because just saying "edit the post" doesn't tell me what I need to edit.
 

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All the inaccurate spots. Someone even recorded them all for you. Several remain inaccurate.
 

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Well, they've changed tiers, so they need to be removed from their current ones and applied to the new ones (Or at least debate for the new tier)
 
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I'll remove tiers they left, and I will add to the tiers they have now if the person who nominated stated it for all tiers.
 
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Ok, I believe this was sorted out, the last conversation back on the previous thread was High 6-A of Colosseum vs. Jay Grimoire, as both stomp Satan.
 

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I don't think Batman can do anything to these unless he has any speed/AP advantage since his High 3-A attack and prep is banned.

Batman's AP is 6e+27 Joules and speed is 200.342c (23.759 tredecillion with temporary boost)
 
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Ok, I had to give you a like for that one
Back on topic, Batman should be able to speedblitz Jay (this is 9th-11th key jay), but gets speed-blitzed by Colosseum. Batman also, even with a massive speedblitz, cannot do much to Jay, as Jay has so many OP hax that even a massive speedblitz like this doesn't matter. Batman should be able to speedblitz Satan of i'm not mistaken, and Colosseum sits comfortably with a Speedblitz and High 1-A (should be 0) Plot Hax.
 
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Also...

My character Phaedra was nominated for High 6-A, 5-C, 5-A, 4-A, 3-C, and Low 2-C a while back.

I'll give reasons later... Actually, I'm pretty sure they were on the other threads...

For now, just know some of her keys have passive 1-A mind manip.
Mind manip is mostly useful against corrupt/evil beings but on its own its still quite potent.

She also has lots of other stuff like High 1-A EE via purification and such. She's a REALLY big smurf. Though, this might change soon when I get back to making the verse as some of it is a little weird to me still.
 
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Ok, let me check the others.
(she gets 2nd in High 6-A, 1st in 5-C, 1st in 5-A, I don't know much about the 4-A but I believe with her speed and High 1-A purification she should be able to get first, tho likely she ties with the rest, 1st in 3-C (I will add Harahel to 2nd) and in Low 2-C I believe she sits at the same tier as them, if not higher. Tho I would like to see more arguments before I add this. (I will just add the 3-C things right away).
 
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Seems correct for now yeah. But I'll let the others argue for their characters. I don't know very much about them.
 
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Now I wonder how yanalds fate haxs will work on their mind Manipulation you brought up

Because yanalds fate haxs are pasive even after his "death". Only way to "kill" him is mostly involves resisting his fate haxs, because that's his main thing that makes him unable to be ended. Even by his holy magic weakness he lived because of his fate haxs
 
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Idk. She doesn't resist fate hax. But the power itself is 1-A so idk if his fate stuff can even effect it.

Her mind manip is mostly empathic, it just makes you a holy/pure person, meaning you won't do bad things like killing, insulting, hurting, etc, and will be super happy and overjoyed while within her aura/presence.
Unless you're evil, in which case her aura will destroy your mind entirely.
 
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To get more discussion, anyway, about your character Phaera, explain how the 1-A stuff works and should I add a key for Low 1-A to 1-A?
 
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Her purification allows her to erase evil entirely (Body, mind, and soul) via destroying their existence. It can be evil or corrupt people, beings, objects, etc. Though, it will not work on those pure of heart. Despite that, it can be used on normal people to clear their minds and souls of evil (Not that useful). All of this is on a High 1-B level (Will likely be changed to 4-D later). Her EE is stronger than a High 1-A voids EE btw (Will be 6-D later)

Multiple of her light attacks inflict these effects. And she can destroy souls on a higher-d level with her basic light blast.

Her mind manipulation/aura (In her first key) passively puts people into a peaceful mindset (Explained above). However, evil/bad beings/people will have their minds destroyed under the effects of her aura. In her later keys, she can completely warp minds into destruction regardless of whether you're good or bad. And after her Lightbringer (3-C key), she can mind control. Though, it doesn't work on other angels. All of this is on a 1-A level (Will likely be changed to 5-D later...)


idk how much more u want me to explain.
 
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Totally forgot about this. Someone wanna give me a quick rundown of what happened here over the last month or at least what the current topic is? Too lazy to read it all
 
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