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Mashu,just close this wank already. ovo
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He never uses counter arguments to my knowledge. I assume if he ever does, it'll be something debunkable, but he will lock it before you can give a retort.John985 said:It's much better if you use counter argument, rather than say wank in the first place.
I don't remember an instance of Gil busting the moon cell...DragonBallSuperIsTerrible said:And the fact Gilgamesh busted the Moon Cell reality marble, which has infinite spaces, possibilities that are simulated and stored, timelines, ect. Even if the other Servants are weaker than full power BB, Gilgamesh is above the Moon Cell entirely. He is easily 2-A to high 2-A in CCC ONLY.
Gilgamesh busted it via Ea (gif above) before the Moon Cell restores it. Gilgamesh canonically uses Ea, and it is a cinematic attack, so it can't be argued as gameplay mechanics. Gilgamesh beat BB who fused with the core. The Moon Cell also has no power over him and he literally broke free of it in the end, for 90% of his treasuary ofc. The Moon Cell could never contain him, BB couldn't defeat him either, despite their multiversal feats.TheUpgradeManHaHaxD said:I don't remember an instance of Gil busting the moon cell...DragonBallSuperIsTerrible said:And the fact Gilgamesh busted the Moon Cell reality marble, which has infinite spaces, possibilities that are simulated and stored, timelines, ect. Even if the other Servants are weaker than full power BB, Gilgamesh is above the Moon Cell entirely. He is easily 2-A to high 2-A in CCC ONLY.
Also the cosmology of the mooncell isn't that simple..
The Holy Grail at the center of the mooncell is what processes infinite parrellel worlds.. this was stated in both CCC, and Extella... The Mooncell itself only processes the effects of parrellel worlds on its own "inner universe" as i will call it...
Gil didn't have access to the mooncells core...
I can give you a link to read the CCC psp game... there is no instance of the mooncell getting busted..DragonBallSuperIsTerrible said:Gilgamesh busted it via Ea (gif above) before the Moon Cell restores it. Gilgames canonically uses Ea, and it is a cinimatic ult, so it can't be argued as gameplay mechanics. Gilgamesh beat BB who fused with the core. The Moon Cell also has no power over him and literally broke free of it in the end, for 90% of his treasuary ofc.TheUpgradeManHaHaxD said:I don't remember an instance of Gil busting the moon cell...DragonBallSuperIsTerrible said:And the fact Gilgamesh busted the Moon Cell reality marble, which has infinite spaces, possibilities that are simulated and stored, timelines, ect. Even if the other Servants are weaker than full power BB, Gilgamesh is above the Moon Cell entirely. He is easily 2-A to high 2-A in CCC ONLY.
Also the cosmology of the mooncell isn't that simple..
The Holy Grail at the center of the mooncell is what processes infinite parrellel worlds.. this was stated in both CCC, and Extella... The Mooncell itself only processes the effects of parrellel worlds on its own "inner universe" as i will call it...
Gil didn't have access to the mooncells core...
I don't remember it ever stating the core is what stores them, only that you can access them via the core. The Moon Cell also has 1 infinite space in the Far Side I believe, which is 4D. Gilgamesh (CCC only) is 2-A to high 2-A regardless for being above BB and the Moon Cell itself.
I am sorry about that... please forgive me..John985 said:Please don't quote large wall of text.
I am collecting scans to show you, but in the meantime.. Its actually directly stated on the Extella official website that its a continuation of of Extra, and CCC together...DragonBallSuperIsTerrible said:The story of Extella is implied to be from Last Encore. Extella mentions Nero and Tamamo in the grail war at the same time, the Moon Cell has enirely different motives, ect. Extella can't be canon to Extra, as Extra and CCC ended entirely different. If we use Extra, then virtual Hakuno is erased, CCC endings Hakuno is saved, (no regalia mentioned, and the Moon Cell still was deleting him/her). Gilgamesh LEAVES the Moon Cell with Hakuno in his ending. Extella does not fit with Extra or CCC.
TheUpgradeManHaHaxD said:I am collecting scans to show you, but in the meantime.. Its actually directly stated on the Extella official website that its a continuation of of Extra, and CCC together...
"Half of the Mooncell" comes from early on when we are told briefly about the Ten Crowns. It is when BB makes one of her first appearences.. would it be better i provided page and chapter links....?Reppuzan said:I still don't get where the "half of Moon Cell" thing is coming from.
Also, drawing power from the Moon Cell =/= having Moon Cell's full reality warping abilities.
Your analogy is the same as saying that every house that draws power from a nuclear reactor channels all of the power produced by the reactor.
In addition, the Moon Cell doesn't even create infinite worlds at once. Otherwise we'd have 2-A Suzuka Gozen.
i know , right, also Infinite possibilities calculation from the past=infinite Timeline,Store and Simulate=creates and destroy and some kind of reverse Kaldor Draigo featsMatthew Schroeder said:His analysis is more like drawing power from the sun with a solar panel = Creating infinite suns.
that because the concept of time in Far Side was broken or she can use power from Earth Mother Goddesses to states her into unlimited timeDragonBallSuperIsTerrible said:The Moon Cell simulates and stores infinite futures/possibilities. Storing them makes them physical to an extent, like timelines. Simulating and storing infinite possibilities ALONE is storing infinite different outcomes, which is what timelines are, infinite different outcomes; not only that, but simulating and storing something that is infinite is infinite, period. Creation=Destruction. The fact they are stored makes these possibilities/futures physically exist. Typemoon wiki states CCC can erase dimensions, and BB used CCC in 4D space and existed after the destruction of it, I even posted that in my first comment. The CCC description on her Vs page is mistranslated.
You say outliers without any proof. Mentioning higher dimensions and stating lower beings can't exist in them until BB hax are not outliers. You are mis-using the word. Gilgamesh busting the entire reality marble would make sense since he has shown without that to be above BB and the Moon Cell in his Mystic Code. He also uses Ea in 4D Far Side and bust it. Scaling makes Mystic Code Gilgamesh 2-A to high 2-A. Also how is he only MFTL when he beat an omnipresent being not properly bound by time? She can place herself in unlimited time even.
yeah , but that guy won't use Grand Order because he believe that's non-canonTheUpgradeManHaHaxD said:Which fate/Grand order has a statement on the holy grail having some form of intelligence where it chooses how much mana to give the user..
yeah , but that guy won't use it'sTheUpgradeManHaHaxD said:iirc grand order is the new canon....