Fairy Tail: The Beefiest Speed Revision

[CloverDragon03]

Fellas, we’ve got one hell of a speed revision on our hands, so let’s please be civil in advance. So, we’ve got a X784 Sub-Relativistic feat (0.02c) feat (with a casual Mach 5000+ feat as support), and we’ve got a X792 Relativistic feat (about 0.11c) from a crippled and weakened Erza. This thread will be all about applying what we’ve established before to these feats for some meaty scaling.

So, let’s get started.

X784 Natsu = 2% SoL (scales to Gajeel)
X784 DF Natsu/X791 DF Wendy/X791 Base Natsu = 8% SoL (4x faster than the 2% SoL characters)
X791 DF Natsu = 32% SoL (4x faster than his base form due to DF)
X792 Base Wendy = 10.67% SoL (Comparable to a crippled and weakened Erza)
X792 Erza = At least 10.67% SoL (Did the feat while crippled and weakened so she should be faster normally)
X792 DF Wendy/X793 Base Natsu/Irene = 42.68% SoL (4x faster due to DF. X793 DF Wendy is faster than her X792 DF and X793 Base Natsu kept up with Kiria, who kept up with this Wendy. Irene kept up with DF Wendy)
Base Zeref/X792 DF Natsu = 50% SoL (Far faster than the 42.68% SoL characters, so baseline Relativistic+)
X793 DF Natsu/X792 SDFF Natsu = 1.7c (X793 DF Natsu is 4x faster than his base form and SDFF Natsu is comparable to that speed, as they both fought opponents of comparable speeds)
Post-SBT Acnologia = 3.4c (Faster than a SDFF Natsu enchanted to be 2x faster than normal)

The last one on this scaling chain is Seven Flames Dragon Mode Natsu. We’ve seen that Dragon Force is activated when in this mode, and he was in SDFF when this mode was activated, meaning it would at least be SDFF + DF. Aside from the boost to 981.12 petatons in AP, this means this Natsu would be 6.8c.

Overall, I’m sure this will be controversial, as this insinuates FTL Fairy Tail, so once again, let’s keep it civil as we discuss this.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

 

[KingTempest]

gg

 

[CloverDragon03]

gg

Gg indeed

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Damn this is beefy as **** lmfao.

anyways you can’t ignore multipliers and what’s actually given so, I agree with this.

 

[Allmighty991]

It looks like it'll be interesting to watch

 

[Nerd1435]

Was never a fan of stacking so many multipliers for speed unless we have a consistent feat every few steps cuz it could result in a lot of inflation

Will follow for now

 

[Purgy]

If the scaling and multipliers are already accepted then it seems fine.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Was never a fan of stacking so many multipliers for speed unless we have a consistent feat every few steps cuz it could result in a lot of inflation

Will follow for now

As controversial as it is, the wiki has these multipliers accepted and if it’s a boost, it’s a boost dude. I don’t think we should just ignore it because of that.

 

[CloverDragon03]

If the scaling and multipliers are already accepted then it seems fine.

Yeah, it’s basically the same stuff but with new calc results as the basis. Only new thing is the Seven Flames Dragon Mode being 4x above SDFF which is simply another application of the Dragon Force 4x multiplier

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Yeah, it’s basically the same stuff but with new calc results as the basis. Only new thing is the Seven Flames Dragon Mode being 4x above SDFF which is simply another application of the Dragon Force 4x multiplier

Wait you stated it being 981 petatons? Was natsu not DF with SDFF? A SDFF that was already amped? Wouldn’t that make acnologia and SFDM 1.962 Exatons? Unless I’m getting something wrong

 

[Zencha9]

multipliers bad

 

[KingTempest]

This is a speed revision.

STOP BRINGING UP ATTACK POTENCY

 

[StrawHatArslan]

This is a speed revision.

STOP BRINGING UP ATTACK POTENCY

It’s literally mentioned in the CRT, open your god damn eyes and scroll above. If it’s talked about here, by the OP, I can talk about it.

 

[CloverDragon03]

It’s literally mentioned in the CRT, open your god damn eyes and scroll above. If it’s talked about here, by the OP, I can talk about it.

I just gave it a glancing mention, let’s focus on speed for now.

 

[BlackeJan]

Here we go with the stacking of multiplers

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Here we go with the stacking of multiplers

Honestly it is controversial, but these are accepted multipliers to all stats? If they’re already accepted we can’t ignore them.’

 

[Otosaka]

Again? FT and NNT doesn't stop

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

In all seriousness, I agree with the OP

The scaling and multipliers haven't changed at all, this is the same exact scaling we were using before, it's just that new calcs have buffed the speeds of the characters and they so happened to reach FTL. I know that's really polarizing, but getting FTL off of Multipliers on top of a Relativistic calc is nothing new. Dragon Ball got FTL+ off of Multipliers from a Sub-Relativistic+ Calc. There is a huge stigma against verses being FTL, But since only the God Tiers of the verse like the Dragon Gods, Acnologia, Zeref, and Natsu would be FTL, that should also be fine.

I completely understand how this may look, but we are following the Wiki's Rules and Standards, so I agree with the changes

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Shouldn’t be controversial tbh since this is the same shit we accept rn but since the base number is a bit higher, people will be up in arms.

For those who want to discuss anything, the FTL is irrelevant and only the .02c Gajeel and .11c Erza calcs should matter.

Put me down for agree.

Edit: Mitch ninja’d me.

 

[KingTempest]

It’s literally mentioned in the CRT, open your god damn eyes and scroll above. If it’s talked about here, by the OP, I can talk about it.

The name of the CRT is "the beefiest speed revision" and he brought up the small point of AP to talk about the end result of speed.
"If it’s talked about here, by the OP, I can talk about it.", no. If it's focused on by the OP then you can talk about it.

 

[KingTempest]

The only issue is the result but that's a personal preference, so it looks fine enough to add.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

The name of the CRT is "the beefiest speed revision" and he brought up the small point of AP to talk about the end result of speed.
"If it’s talked about here, by the OP, I can talk about it.", no. If it's focused on by the OP then you can talk about it.

If it’s brought up in, I have the right to ask a question if deemed confusing. I don’t care, if someone had a question they should just ask, since it’s mentioned already , and you responding is derrailing.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

In all seriousness, I agree with the OP

The scaling and multipliers haven't changed at all, this is the same exact scaling we were using before, it's just that new calcs have buffed the speeds of the characters and they so happened to reach FTL. I know that's really polarizing, but getting FTL off of Multipliers on top of a Relativistic calc is nothing new. Dragon Ball got FTL+ off of Multipliers from a Sub-Relativistic+ Calc. There is a huge stigma against verses being FTL, But since only the God Tiers of the verse like the Dragon Gods, Acnologia, Zeref, and Natsu would be FTL, that should also be fine.

I completely understand how this may look, but we are following the Wiki's Rules and Standards, so I agree with the changes

Yeah I agree with this 100%
If only it was easier for other verses tho lol

 

[KingTempest]

Me telling you to focus on speed in a speed revision when you brought up AP is derailing?

Anyways, clearly not going to listen.

@DragonGamerZ913 any staff you request I mention?

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I’d say we should wait for more staff to weigh in on speed before discussing the AP but calling them here twice would be kinda annoying imo so may as well discuss the AP now given how brief it is (should be but that’s a pipe dream).

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Me telling you to focus on speed in a speed revision when you brought up AP is derailing?

Anyways, clearly not going to listen.

@DragonGamerZ913 any staff you request I mention?

Even though dragon already took care of that? You just felt like responding to fuel your own ego and to derail, even though it was taken care of. K then.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

it’s literally the same thing currently accepted? People disagreeing just because it’s too high is them just lowballing

 

[Zackra1799]

Agree fra

 

[senseikeleon]

Scaling seems fine so I agree

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I will summon some staff

 

[CloverDragon03]

I will summon some staff

Thanks, didn’t really know who would be best to summon.

 

[BlackeJan]

Honestly it is controversial, but these are accepted multipliers to all stats? If they’re already accepted we can’t ignore them.’

It’s because they got 4x from Wendy stacking a powerup so they were like “wel since DF is better then that then we can get 4x DF”

And then from there on it gets even worse

 

[CloverDragon03]

It’s because they got 4x from Wendy stacking a powerup so they were like “wel since DF is better then that then we can get 4x DF”

And then from there on it gets even worse

I see nothing wrong with that, as it’s a boost strictly above those stacked enchantments.

But, arguing the principle of it would be derailing the thread, so let’s not.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

It’s because they got 4x from Wendy stacking a powerup so they were like “wel since DF is better then that then we can get 4x DF”

And then from there on it gets even worse

Well if that’s what’s accepted, it’s how it is. Either you deal with it or you make a crt removing the multiplier.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Can we focus on the scaling please?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

This looks reasonable

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Can we focus on the scaling please?

Pretty much agreed so far, we should just wait for staff

 

[Zencha9]

yeah i agree as well

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Lookin like a mango on a fork

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I agree