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Esdeath vs True Archer
- Thread starter PloxFGM
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7A vs High 7A?
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AP wise yeah,this might be stomp but if you see Alcides abilities,you can see how bullshit his invulnearability:
Pelt of the Divine Beast (First Labor): The Pelt of the Nemean Lion, a Divine or Demonic Beast that "rejects" human civilization, which made it immune to all man-made weapons. Due to slaying the beast for his First Labor and using the Pelt afterwards, it would normally be a separate Noble Phantasm from King's Order but upon transforming into Alcides it becomes a part of King's Order. It takes the form of a a long, decorated cloth with a pattern that Alcides wears around his face and body, giving him the special properties of the Beast. Making him extremely difficult to harm, even Noble Phantasms would be completely useless against him should they be man-made.
Pelt of the Divine Beast (First Labor): The Pelt of the Nemean Lion, a Divine or Demonic Beast that "rejects" human civilization, which made it immune to all man-made weapons. Due to slaying the beast for his First Labor and using the Pelt afterwards, it would normally be a separate Noble Phantasm from King's Order but upon transforming into Alcides it becomes a part of King's Order. It takes the form of a a long, decorated cloth with a pattern that Alcides wears around his face and body, giving him the special properties of the Beast. Making him extremely difficult to harm, even Noble Phantasms would be completely useless against him should they be man-made.
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And this means it can damage her how?
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I mean Alcides can survive most of her attack but yeah most of his attack might not work,unless he pulls an power steal this match is not good,most of Esdeath attack get rejected by his pelt but Alcides can't hurt him due of the gap.
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Has it ever deflected an attack much stronger than him tho?
If it can it's probably inconclusive, tho I'm not really sure if it's a mismatch or not.
If it can it's probably inconclusive, tho I'm not really sure if it's a mismatch or not.
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As long as it is servant-level it should hold true. I'm certain planetary buster attacks overwhelms this concept of "man-made doesn't work" (Cause Nasuverse Firepower is just very low). But below it, it becomes questionable, I'm assuming it should scale upto continental at most (which enters Beast, Grand servant, top god-tier) but it could be far lower. Only feat now is it no selling gil's sword rain (which isn't that impressive).Gargoyle One said:
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Ehhhhh, might as well see where this goes.
Bump
Bump
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Well, Esdeath regularly kills Danger Beasts which are a lot like Monstrous Species, so Servant invulnerability isn't going to work here.
But considering the fact that her Rapier is still made by human hands, it's going to bounce right off the Nemean Lion's pelt.
Esdeath still has her Teigu though, which will bypass it since it's the ability of a Danger Beast rather than something of human hands.
Edit: In hindsight, the Teigu probably won't work simply because it was tampered with by human hands.
But considering the fact that her Rapier is still made by human hands, it's going to bounce right off the Nemean Lion's pelt.
Esdeath still has her Teigu though, which will bypass it since it's the ability of a Danger Beast rather than something of human hands.
Edit: In hindsight, the Teigu probably won't work simply because it was tampered with by human hands.
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Annnnnd this is a stomp......
Darn
Darn
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Well after being cleared up by Reppuzan, (Seriously, thanks man) Esdeath isn't capable of beating True Archers defenses after all, but the AP and Durability gap can prevent Esdeath from being taken out.
Inconclusive.
So that's 0-0-2
Inconclusive.
So that's 0-0-2
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Inconclusive FRA then
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Bump
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Is there a problem with that?Reppuzan said:
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Is there a problem with that?
Matches where the opomemt cant do a thing shpuldnt be added and are mismatches maybe?.
Matches where the opomemt cant do a thing shpuldnt be added and are mismatches maybe?.
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J Man neither of them can kill the other.
No different from Funny vs Beerus
No different from Funny vs Beerus
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Isn't Anti Fortress 6B?
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Im sure big dick herc has some form of hax that can mitigate esd .
>Funny as beerus .
That was forced upon me. Theres a reason the only matches ya have sen me make are Rayquaza vs ridley and artoria vs skull knight .
>Funny as beerus .
That was forced upon me. Theres a reason the only matches ya have sen me make are Rayquaza vs ridley and artoria vs skull knight .
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Esdeath is much higher into High 7A then the blast is and I don't think it ignores Durability.
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Actually, Esdeath's Teigu is just monster blood. It's technically never said to be manipulated by humans. I may be wrong, though.
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It's stated to just be the blood of Danger Beast. I'll stop here as I don't want to discuss this now.
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It's hard to say whether or not the demon blood was not combined with human ingenuity since all of the teigu was imbued with magic in order to make them work when the teigu's were created.
Also shouldn't Archer's Reincarnation Pandora: Usurper of the Celestial Wind be able to steal Esdeath's teigu?
Also shouldn't Archer's Reincarnation Pandora: Usurper of the Celestial Wind be able to steal Esdeath's teigu?
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Would that make him able to damage her tho? Or should he still remain 6C?
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Having the knowledge to use it=/=Putting out the same output.
He is 7A while she is 6C.
He is 7A while she is 6C.
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Has he?
What exactly has he stolen?
If he's stolen a High 7A blast and used it, I concede
What exactly has he stolen?
If he's stolen a High 7A blast and used it, I concede
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Can Esdeath even still use her ability after it is stolen?
Cause if so it would not matter if he can match her output if she does not have her teigu. Since its steal and not copy shouldnt it remove Esdeaths ability to control ice and removes her immunity to it allowing her to be affected by her own teigu alongside archers own abilities
Cause if so it would not matter if he can match her output if she does not have her teigu. Since its steal and not copy shouldnt it remove Esdeaths ability to control ice and removes her immunity to it allowing her to be affected by her own teigu alongside archers own abilities
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Just because she doesn't have her ability doesn't mean she gets physically weaker, heck she's 6C by one shotting someone with her blade.
If he can match her output he can't damage Esdeath, but it seems like he can.
This is what I get for bothering Repp about this match...
If he can match her output he can't damage Esdeath, but it seems like he can.
This is what I get for bothering Repp about this match...
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You said he also gains the knowledge of the stolen ability then can he use her time freeze ability against her, if not he could ultimately wear her down with her abilities and with a sword only at her side she would not be able to hurt him and she has to put in more effort in resisting the ice and dodging his attacks. Without the immunity to ice gained from her teigu she would be slowed down by the ice
