Edelweiss vs Sakaguchi Hinata

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

• Sage Hinata is being used

• Speed Equalized

• SBA

Edelweiss (Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry):

Sakaguchi Hinata (Light Novel):

Inconclusive:

 

[SpookyShadow]

High 7-A vs High 6-B?

Following though, maybe Hinata is haxed enough.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

She has Dura Neg though and they have the same style too (Akame 1 hit kill and Hinata 7 hit kill)

 

[SpookyShadow]

Akame ignores dura with Murasame too though. It's poison manip and single cut is lethal

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Yeah that's why I made the battle. Hinata's is not that haxed compare to her 2nd key and the rest of the Slime characters but she still has analytical precog and many more

 

[Schnee_One]

Akame is getting downgraded

 

[SpookyShadow]

Ikr, but does it really matter?

BTW Is it known to which tier?

 

[Schnee_One]

Nope still being calced

 

[SpookyShadow]

Yeah I always thought that feat wasn't High 6-B.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Early bump. AP doesnt matter here though so the fight will continue

 

[Schnee_One]

Uhh

Akame can very possibly get lower then High 7A yes?

It kinda can't, not yet..

 

[GLHF22]

Yeah that's why I made the battle. Hinata's is not that haxed compare to her 2nd key and the rest of the Slime characters but she still has analytical precog and many more

No, No, No

Hinata in her first key already have Melt Slash, in worst case if Akame hit Hinata, she Will realize that she Will dead and use Melt slash to 1 shot Akame, but yeah Info Analys gave Hinata advantage here

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Voting Hinata via more experience, precognition, and 7HK.

 

[Schnee_One]

Uhh

Akame can very possibly get lower then High 7A yes?

It kinda can't, not yet..

Also, Edelweiss (Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry) is a much better fight.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Sounds a lot better than the Ikki match.

 

[GLHF22]

Sounds a lot better than the Ikki match.

I mean its never concluded though we know who is the winner

 

[Schnee_One]

^I don't see any relevance in that.

Anyway, @OP Could you change this to Stella Vermillio? Akame might get downgraded and this won't be able to continue.

 

[GLHF22]

Ikki vs Hinata thread

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Er, what stops Ursurper GG against Stella? Akame could deal with it because she was mostly sword based.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Sure

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Actually Edelweiss might be a good match-up since Hinata counters Stella hard

 

[Schnee_One]

First off, good choice of pics

Second, Type 4 hard counters Precog so it's down to skill. Edelweiss doesn't use death manipulation too much.

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

Lol thanks

Yeah plus she has fate manip too which could be a problem

 

[SpookyShadow]

Is her fate manip combat applicable?

 

[Schnee_One]

Ehhhhhhhhhhhh

Edelweiss doesn't really use her fate Manip in combat much.

Now, while Edelweiss has no problem killing people she hasn't used her death manipulation before. I don't want to think she won't use it at all in this fight, but She's definitely not using it too soon.

Aside from those two and I guess her durability negation, she's almost entirely sword based

Now, without Precog, I do need to know how she'll deal with Zero Accel (Basically a speed amp), I believe Hinata herself has a speed amp, could be wrong though.

What's the AP difference BTW?

 

[SpookyShadow]

I'm not knowledgeable on Rakudai so I have to ask - is there any feat of Desperado killing with a thought?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Hinata is a swordsman that outclasses Hakurou, someone who had been alive for 300+ years. Not to mention, he was hand picked to train all of Tempest and personally trained Rimuru himself. It was so proficient that Rimuru even got precognition from this, yet Rimuru stated she easily outclassed him. Not to mention, her intelligence was stated to be comparable to Great Sage, who can understand unconcealed phenomenon, and underestimate the task of him succeeding in any test.

 

[Schnee_One]

Would being significantly stronger then someone Who ca be enough for you?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

What stops Hinata from Info Analysis+Power Absorption, and leaving her down to H2H and swordsman ship?

 

[SpookyShadow]

But isn't this from HIS ability? Like, for example Shisui in Naruto uses Kotoamatsukami and Madara is hilariously stronger than him but he can't use Koto. I don't know how it works so I ask.

 

[GLHF22]

Eh? What's stopping Hinata to steal edelweis Testament?

 

[Schnee_One]

What stops Hinata from Info Analysis+Power Absorption, and leaving her down to H2H and swordsman ship?

I'm not sure if Type 4 can help with info analysis, as for the second none, kinda said that already, though I don't think she can copy abilities unless the opponent uses them, so Edelweiss won't have to deal with her own stuff too soon.

@Shadow, Madara and Naruto use two different power sets, Amane is derived from the same Magic as Edelweiss but much weaker.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Fair enough. But I guess they never use it in character.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Where did you get the idea that she needs to see them to copy? Type 4 helping with Info Analysis is up in the air, imo.

 

[GLHF22]

Also Type 4 acausal doesnt help from Hinata precog

 

[Schnee_One]

Got that from the Mami thread, muh bad.

@GLH Why?

 

[GLHF22]

Because anlytical prediction has nothing to do with causality

 

[SpookyShadow]

^

 

[MrDrProfessorPatricio]

@Schnee One this is how Hinata's precog work

Mathematician: An ability which allows her to observe and completely analyze everything about her opponents. With the Prediction Simulation ability of it, it can be used to predict the path of her opponents attacks.

Kinda like Jin Mori

 

[SpookyShadow]

Types of precog that won't work on Edel are Epitaph, the Almighty, Julius' Mana Zone (Future seeing precogs) but Analytical Prediction would work.