Earthquakes in Pokemon

[The_real_cal_howard]

So, I've been thinking this over for some time, and looking at the feats of Pokémon and the Earthquake Power Chart, I believe that earthquakes in the verse should have to do with seismic energy, not radiated waves.

Reason one why I think that is the nature of the moves Earthquake and Magnitude. They do more damage if the opponent is underground, signifying that they're closer to the initial impact of the attack. Radiated waves are the things that shake the surface of the earth, so that's not going to be why. Reason two comes from Dugtrio. Dugtrio triggers huge earthquakes via digging 60 miles underground, which is relatively close to where the tectonic plates are. It's safe to say that the surface has nothing to do with that. The move Earthquake is said to trigger and Earthquake and the animation for the move nowadays is more than just shaking the surface, as it creates fault lines and whatnot and you can see what appears to be lava underneath (though that orange light from underground can be a number of things). What's more, Earthquake and Fissure (the move where the ground opens up deep) seem to have a correlation, as Pokémon Contests have them linked. Whiscash gained the ability to predict earthquakes that are explicitly stated to be real earthquakes, and it gained that ability through its own earthquake causing, showing their relation.

Why does this matter? A handful of Pokémon (like the infamous Tyranitar and the aforementioned Dugtrio) have feats of causing crazy earthquakes. Seismic energy for them would be crazy.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Either that or being underground while it's shaking simply does more damage than just standing on it. Also a possibility.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Also you remember the whole High 6-B Dugtrio nonsense? Do you? You do not want that.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Being 60 miles underground when the surface is shaking would be well out of range.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Oh noes. I have High 6-B Dugtrio flashbacks....

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Oh goodness, no way in heck would I scale to Magnitude 10 lol.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Because High 6-B moles give ya nightmares??? OvO

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I refuse to believe they are simply moles. They are Eldrich Abominations underneath.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So I will ask, where would this place Pokemon if we were to accept this?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

It all depends on where Tyranitar's mountain crumbling earthquakes would place them. It would need a calc. For the power of the earthquake, not the mountain destruction (for the umpteenth time).

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Dugtrio would only be 6-C for magnitude 10...

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Silly Weekly not realizing we're going Total Seismic energy here and not the regular way.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

But we dont use total seismic energy for earthquakes created through physical means

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

For radiated waves. This thread would be about using the other version, because of the relation to real earthquakes.

I think Dugtrio's earthquakes would be about a 7.5, given its 60 mile radius. That's island level+. Tyranitar in the other hand...

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I'm following so I can see Tyranitar upgraded to help me kill DIO

High 6-B DugDemon

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Weekly plz read the thread. Cal's entire argument is about how Total Seismic Energy would be more appropriate here due to how the Earthquakes are produced. Whether or not he's right is up in the air though.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

We need calc group members for this one.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

We summon thee, calc group members.

Also this thread is officially banned in Japanese due to containing Earthquake and Whiscash.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Oof.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Something tells me that Tyranitar is gonna be a humongous outlier. Like, making Lugia look like Jigglypuff outlier.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Well, let's not apply EVERY Earthquake to that logic. Stuf like Whiscash and Tyrannitar still produces Earthquakes by sheer force and not like Dugtrio does.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Whiscash is actually the most irrefutable for real earthquakes lol.

That said, most of my evidence is about how the move Earthquake/Magnitude/Fissure in general relies on seismic energy.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

You shouldn't apply how one Pokémon does the move to all other Pokémon capable of doing it. Remember that a lot of different mons can execute the same move differently.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

A lot of the evidence is for the move itself rather than Dugtrio/Whiscash. The animation, the description, and the mechanics all have to do with it. Tyranitar's descriptions post earthquake about topography needing to be changed directly correlate to how actual earthquakes operate.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

It just says that he does so much damage, maps must be changed. It doesn't relate it to actual Earthquakes beyond its effects.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bit information.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

An earthquake capable of causing serious changes in topography is magnitude 9

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_magnitude_scale

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bump

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

never

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bump. I repeat Saik's "never" though.

Magnitude 8's probably the safest middle.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Does this need a highlight?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Maybe. Idk.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

That would mean... Large Island level Pokemon... lots of dragons in Pokemon...

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Would this scale to any Pokemon that learn Earthquake or Magnitude, or just top dogs like Tyranitar and such?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

The ones that are already tier 6. Unlike Tyranitar, Dugtrio is nothing special.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Silly LordGrif, Tyranitar isnt a dog ovo

In all seriousness, probabaly just tier 6 ones like Cal said.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

@Cal

Ok

But Dugtrio is three turds that can use Slash and Arial Ace. How is that not special?. OvO

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

...you right

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

They magically come from the hole ovo

 

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