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Dyspo FTL is a retcon?
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Here we go again.
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Why are people assuming we are just gonna downgrade speed over this? It's simply a situation of "writers don't know math."
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Yeah? So?
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@Dragonmasterxyz
It's Dragon Ball that's why
It's Dragon Ball that's why
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I hope this doesn't turn into a massive discussion like on the Dragon Ball Super Discussion thread.
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(Insert every time we have had a MFTL+ feat.)
Which is basically whenever Whis or Beerus flies...
Which is basically whenever Whis or Beerus flies...
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Look at the page, look at the speed, trace back to the feat.Amexim said:
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Nothing changes.
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Why bring up Dyspo from Super if you're talking about DBZ?, That makes no sense.
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This topic should be closed until after the tournament.
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FTL can mean 1.1 lightspeed or 1000x lightspeed so I don't think this constitutes a retcon
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There are no MFTL feats in DBZ or anything before that is canon as far as im aware. FTL at best.Amexim said:
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- Beerus flew from his home nebula to that planet with the dinossauros in like 2 minutes
- Whis and Vados can cross universes and Beerus is stated to fly at 3/4 of Whis' casual speed
- Zamasu crossing universes
- Watagashi flying from another unknown Solar System to Earth in a short amount of time
- Sub-Relativistic+ feats in Piccolo's Raditz Saga attack and First Form Freeza's Supernova
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Also, to answer the OP:
As for FTL DBZ...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:RadicalMrR/Some_DB_Stuff
Freeza's Supernova speed was calced at 75,144,855.665 m/s which is about 0.25c
For the sake of low-ball, let's assume that Freeza didn't grow in speed at all all the way to the Final Form (Which is clearly not the case).
Casual Final Form Freeza and Goku were around equal, and Goku with a x20 Kaioken is comparable to 50% Freeza. Since the Kaioken is a stated and confirmed linear multiplier for strength and speed:
0.25c * 20 = 5c Already FTL!
Then we know for a fact that SSJ Goku is > 100% Freeza, so 100% Freeza and SSJ goku are around 10c.
Also even if you scale from the Sub-Relativistic Piccolo Blast feat the speed is still about 3c or so for Freeza and Goku.
As for FTL DBZ...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:RadicalMrR/Some_DB_Stuff
Freeza's Supernova speed was calced at 75,144,855.665 m/s which is about 0.25c
For the sake of low-ball, let's assume that Freeza didn't grow in speed at all all the way to the Final Form (Which is clearly not the case).
Casual Final Form Freeza and Goku were around equal, and Goku with a x20 Kaioken is comparable to 50% Freeza. Since the Kaioken is a stated and confirmed linear multiplier for strength and speed:
0.25c * 20 = 5c Already FTL!
Then we know for a fact that SSJ Goku is > 100% Freeza, so 100% Freeza and SSJ goku are around 10c.
Also even if you scale from the Sub-Relativistic Piccolo Blast feat the speed is still about 3c or so for Freeza and Goku.
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