Durability Negation CRT

[Mr. Bambu]

Well. We've gone in circles awhile now. I think you're wrong, you think I'm wrong. I vote what I think. I think this is just a bad idea and it will add another wrinkle to our mountain of nigh-incomprehensible jargon. I'd rather leave it general and understandable.

 

[IbukiDoujisGiantTail]

Well. We've gone in circles awhile now. I think you're wrong, you think I'm wrong. I vote what I think. I think this is just a bad idea and it will add another wrinkle to our mountain of nigh-incomprehensible jargon. I'd rather leave it general and understandable.

Fair enough IG

 

[Bobsican]

Got permission to comment here by @Vietthai96 here

I have a major concern with how the new page doesn't mention the concept of Hax at all, and while the old one doesn't either, the way it's being revamped would make it quite ideal to also include some mention of it while at it.

More specifically, the 2 concepts overlap quite a lot, in fact it'd be fair to argue that Durability Negation as a page is to Hax what Superhuman Physical Characteristics is to the Tiering System, a profile-indexable variant of a given pertinent bit of a site standard. Because of this, dividing it into types just comes off as redundant and confusing, the Hax page already does that in a much more comprehensive manner, and so any changes of that kind would be more appropiate on the Hax page itself (or the Resistance page). In particular I think that it'd be wise to remove the inclusion of Durability Negation "types" and to just link to the Hax and Resistance pages for further information.

 

[IbukiDoujisGiantTail]

Got permission to comment here by @Vietthai96 here

I have a major concern with how the new page doesn't mention the concept of Hax at all, and while the old one doesn't either, the way it's being revamped would make it quite ideal to also include some mention of it while at it.

More specifically, the 2 concepts overlap quite a lot, in fact it'd be fair to argue that Durability Negation as a page is to Hax what Superhuman Physical Characteristics is to the Tiering System, a profile-indexable variant of a given pertinent bit of a site standard. Because of this, dividing it into types just comes off as redundant and confusing, the Hax page already does that in a much more comprehensive manner, and so any changes of that kind would be more appropiate on the Hax page itself (or the Resistance page). In particular I think that it'd be wise to remove the inclusion of Durability Negation "types" and to just link to the Hax and Resistance pages for further information.

I'm not quite sure I understand the concern? There's abilities listed throughout the proposed page which could qualify for "hax" and the page doesn't put an emphasis on said abilities being stat dependent, just that the listed examples are easy short hands for what each type represents. Do you mean to say that you'd want Durability Negation melded into the general Hax page as opposed to its own individual page?

Hax in general is a catch-all term for "ability which doesn't care about stats to affect opponents", what I wanted to establish with this page is a proper standard for indexing Durability Negation abilities based upon whether or not they actually interact with Durability, as opposed to having "Durability Negation" and "Durability Circumvention" as separate pages given that the current page just nebulously melds them together as "yeah abilities which can hurt opponents despite durability."

I'm not as married to the types as it might seem, but I just think it provides a better standard and level of specificity as opposed to the current page. If you feel like the page might be improved by linking to Hax or having a section about Hax/the Hax page having a section on Durability Negation, I don't mind that addition.