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Jinsye

She/Her
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Disembodied thought
Powers and Stats

Tier: Varies from 11-B to High 3-A

Name:
Disembodied Thought

Origin: Everything

Gender: Inapplicable

Age: Unknown

Classification: Disembodied Sentient Thought

Powers and Abilities: Non-Corporeal, Possession, Immortality (Types 1 and 6), Telepathy, Duplication, Flight, Shapeshifting, Size Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, Quantum Manipulation, Gravity Manipulation, BFR, Mind Manipulation (Via the Golden Gate), Resistance to Mind Manipulation (Can purge its mind of any thought it has ever had or foreign thought it has ever encountered at will), Can survive in space in any form, potentially many other abilities depending on what it is possessing or what form it has taken

Attack Potency: Varies from Line level (Can possess 1-Dimensional Feedback Spheres) to High Universe level (Can continuously possess larger and larger universes infinitely. The physical universe of Everything is smaller than a quark which resides within another universe which is smaller than a quark which resides within another universe which continues this loop infinitely) depending on what it is possessing or what form it has taken

Speed: Varies from None to Infinite, likely Omnipresent depending on what it is possessing or what form it has taken

Lifting Strength: Varies from None to Infinite depending on what it is possessing or what form it has taken

Striking Strength: Varies from None to High Universal depending on what it is possessing or what form it has taken

Durability: Varies from Line level to High Universe level depending on what it is possessing or what form it has taken

Stamina: Limitless (While the thing it possesses may or may not be capable of becoming tired, the Disembodied Thought itself is incapable of exhaustion)

Range: Varies from standard melee range to universal depending on what it is possessing or what form it has taken

Standard Equipment: Varies depending on what it is possessing or what form it has taken

Intelligence: Nigh-Omniscient (Has complete knowledge of everything that exists in the universe and complete knowledge of the philosophical nature of the universe itself)

Weaknesses: None notable

Notable Attacks/Techniques:

  • Possession: The Disembodied Thought is able to transfer its consciousness into virtually anything that exists, regardless of size, composition, or sentience. Once it possesses something it can also possess anything around it and have them follow it without question. There is no limit to how many things the Disembodied Thought can possess at any given time. It can also release things it possesses in this manner at any given time.
  • Shapeshifting: At any time, the Disembodied Thought can shift to any form it has already previously inhabited, though this form will be scaled appropriately to the current scale it is at (For example, taking the form of a planet in the middle of a street will produce a miniature-sized planet).
  • Duplication: The Disembodied Thought is able to create perfect duplicates of whatever it is possessing.
  • Size-Shifting: The Disembodied Thought can change its size to be anywhere from 1-Dimensional to infinite in size (By 3-Dimensional standards). It can also do this to whatever else it is possessing or any duplicates it has made.
  • The Golden Gate: The Golden Gate is a pocket reality that manipulates the mind of anyone and anything in it by convincing them, and everything else inside it, that there is no reality beyond it, and then uses any thoughts or idea one has ever had or encountered to further strengthen this effect. The only way to escape the Golden Gate is to purge your mind of every thought you've ever had or encountered.
BB
Powers and Stats
Tier: At least 5-B, possibly 5-A

Name:
BB, Black Blossom, Mysterious Black Magus, Moon Cancer

Origin: Fate/Extra CCC

Gender: Female

Age: 8000 Years Old

Classification: Advanced Level AI, Moon Cancer-class Servant

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Information Manipulation, Magic Resistance, Space-Time Manipulation (Can freely distort the axis of time and can freeze time and space at will with Domina Cornam, Shifted events in the timeline and reconstructed past, present, and future at the Far Side of the Moon to resurrect those who would have died in the original timeline and restart the Holy Grail War), Causality Manipulation (Can rewrite the laws of cause and effect at will and eliminate the effect of her opponent's attacks and abilities with Potnia Theron), Life and Death Manipulation (Has the Earth Mother Goddess's authority over bringing life and giving death), Age Manipulation (Can deage her foes with the Babyfication curse), Fate Manipulation (Can decide and select the future as she desires from an infinite number of futures and impose it on the world), Time Travel (Can send others backward through time as she desires and relay information the past or future), Soul Manipulation (Can manipulate spiritrons, digital particles that recreate the souls and memories of Servants, Masters, and NPCs and absorb them into herself through her Self-Modification skill), Matter Manipulation, Probability Manipulation (Forcibly turned her E-Rank Luck into probability-defying EX-Rank through sheer hard work and termination and gained control over probability through Potnia Theron), Mind Manipulation, Illusion Creation (Can make her targets see whatever she wants them to see, bypassing Gilgamesh's powerful Magic Resistance to make him perceive her as Saber and destroy their sense of self by trapping them in a "Bug Space" to be endlessly tortured), Gravity Manipulation, Breaking the Fourth Wall (Knows what story cutscenes she is voiced in as well as the fact that she will only be voiced for those particular parts), Reality Warping, Time Paradox Immunity (Preset her future so that no matter what would happen in the past or present she would still achieve her goal of merging with the Moon Cell), Nigh-Omnipresence (Exists in past, present, and future simultaneously and can freely jump between them with a "higher-dimensional perspective" of space-time), Statistics Amplification, Sealing (Can seal foes into the ends of imaginary number space), Existence Erasure via C.C.C., Can exile her foes to different parts of the Moon Cell, Can resurrect Servants, Creation (Can create "High Servants" using parts of herself via viruses), Hacking (Can hack virtually any device), Power Nullification (The Golden Grail can nullify its target's supernatural abilities and powers and can strip away the information and powers of others through her command of imaginary number space), Absorption and Power Mimicry (Can break others down into data to absorb and make herself stronger, taking their powers in the process), Conceptual Manipulation (Can expunge the concept of the world and its auxiliary concepts and replace them with one of her own choosing with C.C.C.), Law Manipulation (Can swap out physical and magical laws as she desires and create "rules" for her games such as "no private conversations", making any and all forms of conversation other than eye contact useless and "no return crystals", deactivating that particular item's functions for as long as she wills it)

Attack Potency: At least Planet level, possibly Large Planet level (Cursed Cutting Crater is officially rated as an Anti-World Noble Phantasm. Absorbed the data of the Earth Mother Goddess, which includes powerful entities like Tiamat, and she can fight Gilgamesh at his full power. However, she remains weaker than the likes of Kiara Sessyoi), can ignore conventional durability with various powers

Speed: Nigh-Omnipresent throughout space-time (Exists in past, present, and future simultaneously and can view and appear across space-time as if it were a book, absorbed the data of Tiamat, who also exists across space-time), Massively FTL+ otherwise (Crossed hundreds to thousands of light years in a relatively short amount of time. Fought the Servants of Hakuno Kishinami even after they received their Mythological Mythic Codes and the power of the "Root of the Beginning")

Lifting Strength: At least Class 25 (Her Strength parameter is at *, making it unreadable, but she can still clash with most Servants in close combat)

Striking Strength: At least Planet Class, possibly Large Planet Class (Can clash with the player's Servant in the end-game, which can be Gilgamesh)

Durability: At least Planet level, possibly Large Planet level via power-scaling (While she is weaker than Kiara Sessyoi, she is still able to tank hits from the player's Servant, which can be Gilgamesh at full power)

Stamina: Virtually limitless (She has complete control over the Moon Cell and has absorbed the powers of numerous Divine Spirits)

Range: At least several hundred meters with her regular attacks (Her Sakura Beam is comparable in range to most Servants normal ranged attacks), At least Planetary with Potnia Theron Cursed Cutting Crater (Is an Anti-World Noble Phantasm that can expunge any of the concepts of the World and overwrite magical and physical laws of the universe), Unknown with the Moon Cell (Can sustain Reality Marbles of indeterminate size)

Standard Equipment: Her riding crop, The Golden Grail, The Bishop's Staff of Rulership

Intelligence: Born as a backup AI from Sakura Matou's feelings for Hakuno Kishinami, BB's rampancy allowed her to break free from the influence of the god-like Moon Cell. By placing herself in "unlimited" where even it cannot reach, BB managed to successfully take over its authority, absorbing numerous Divine Spirits including the Earth Mother Goddess to empower herself, creating the Sakura Labyrinth in order to extend Hakuno's life and becoming a hyper-grade AI that can easily defeat Servants as powerful as Gawain. However, she is mischievous and something of a tease, and rarely uses her power to its fullest extent.

Weaknesses: Requires a sufficient amount of data and other materials as well as a portion of herself to generate High Servants and thus cannot produce them indefinitely, she weakens with each High Servant she creates, Potnia Theron will fail against those not born on Earth, she is rarely serious and spends much of her time simply harassing her foes instead of finishing them off, she can be crippled or severely weakened by particularly complex and powerful computer viruses. Her powers are tied to the Moon Cell and she is thus much weaker if she is removed from it or if her authority is somehow overwritten.

Notable Attacks/Techniques:

Noble Phantasm

Fate Extra Cursed Cutting Crater
Cursed Cutting Crater


Now... rejoice. I'll remove you from this universe.
Operation: Cursed Cutting Crater.
The voices are quiet... My shadows, covering the world.
~ BB utilizing C.C.C.​
  • C.C.C.: Cursed Cutting Crater: Taking advantage of her authority as the Earth Mother Goddess that is the root of all creation, BB purges the world by rewriting its events and making maximum use of the EX skill "Potnia Theron". It is an Anti-World Noble Phantasm that outputs information like an ultra-precise 3-D Printer, overriding the previous world with the world that BB desires. The space eroded by this attack becomes imaginary space and a curse that consumes and bores a hole in reality to achieve her ends. In addition to scattering all objects inside on an atomic level and reconstructing them, it is capable of writing over and rewriting information of fields such as luck and coincidence. She can also distort the time axis by interfering with gravity fields and rewriting the law of cause and effect. When used in combat, BB's has her familiars, the shapeshifters, engulf the target, allowing BB to wipe them out of existence unopposed.
Fate Extra CCC Golden Grail
Aurea Borea: Golden Grail

  • Aurea Boura: Golden Grail: BB's own "Golden Grail". It is a decadent counterfeit that serves as an antithesis to Christ's words to not pile up the wealth of the Earth, becoming a "genuine" Holy Grail by granting wishes without heed to right or wrong. When used in combat, BB draws the Golden Grail out of her body and pours its muddied contents onto her foe, nullifying special abilities and dealing massive amounts of magical damage. This attack was powerful enough to instantly defeat Gawai, dealing "99999" damage. As a Holy Grail, it should also be able to grant wishes that are asked of it, but BB has not displayed this function due to already having control of the Moon Cell and the Bishop Staff of Rulership.
  • Bishop Staff of Rulership: BB's primary weapon, it normally takes the form of silver baton, but reveals its true appearance once BB changes her class to Moon Cancer. Also known as Domina Cornam: Crowns of Ten Rulerships, it maximizes her authority as an Advanced-level AI, allowing her to freely change he "game rules" of Moon Cell, exchanging the physical and magical laws with those of her choosing at will. Even if her authority over her foes is nullified, she is still able to utilize a variety of abilities with this device in hand.
    • Domina Cronam Capitoline: Crowns of Ten Rulerships/Hill of One: BB renders herself temporarily "invulnerable" to damage or negative effects.
    • Domina Cronam Caelius: Crowns of Ten Rulerships/Hill of Five: BB temporarily raises the potency of her magic.
    • Domina Cronam Viminalis: Crowns of Ten Rulerships/Hill of Seven: BB fires a powerful heart-shaped beam at her foe, which she playfully calls Sakura Beam.
CursedCupidCleanser
Cursed Cupid Cleanser: C.C.C.


Do you want to see my transformation?
BB Channel! Oh, this won't do! But don't worry. This is a job for BB-chan!
Absolute Recovery: Cursed Cupid Cleanser!
Fufu, did the injection hurt?
~ BB while using Cursed Cupid Cleanser​
  • Cursed Cupid Cleanser: C.C.C.: A Noble Phantasm she devised after becoming bored with her usage of Cursed Cutting Crater, BB enters imaginary space before rewriting reality with a special version of her BB Channel Reality Marble, where she is the producer, host, and game master. She then plunges her opponent into complete chaos as she herself transforms into an "invincible nurse" that injects all the curses of Cursed Cutting Crater into her target.
  • Imaginary Spiritron Trap: A Noble Phantasm representing BB's mastery of Imaginary Number Space, which BB can manipulate at will and weaponize against her foes. She can shape it into tendrils and "black noise" that will strip away the powers and abilities of those that come in contact with them and allow BB to alter their data to her liking, changing the nature of their existence and adding their abilities to her own with her Self-Modification skill if she so desires. She can also seal away her foes in a pocket of Imaginary Number Space to remove them from the battle.
Class Skills

  • Item Constructio (ÚüôÕàÀõ¢£µêÉ, Dōgu Sakusei): A skill which measures one's ability to manufacture magical items. BB possesses an A-Rank in this skill, but she doesn't use it much during the events of Fate/Extra CCC.
  • Magic Resistance (Õ»¥Ú¡öÕèø, Tai-Maryoku, localized as "Anti-Magic"): A skill that grants protection against magical effects. Differently from the Resistance effect that merely rejects Magical Energy, this ability cancels the spells altogether. BB's Rank in this skill is B, making her immune to any spell whose aria is less than three verses while greatly reducing the effects of High-Thaumaturgy and Greater Rituals.
  • Territory Creation (ÚÖúÕ£░õ¢£µêÉ, Jinchi Sakusei, alternately localized as "Area Creation"): A skill which quantifies one's ability to create a territory advantageous to them as a Magus. BB possesses a A-Rank in this skill when summoned as a Moon Cancer-class Servant, but this is hardly indicative of her ability to create and sustain Reality Marbles with ease.
Personal Skills

  • Potnia Theron: The authority of the goddesses whom BB compiled and absorbed from the Abyss of the Moon Cell. It is the embodiment of the power of creation possessed by the mother goddesses, originating from a forgotten goddess approximately 8000 years ago (the goddess of ├çatalhöyūk), and branching to Tiamat and Cybele, Ishtar, Inanna, Athena, Astarte, Gaia, Hera, Artemis, Aphrodite, Demeter, Athena, etc. Since all life on Earth originated from the Earth Mother Goddess, it is impossible for those born of the Earth to defy her authority as they would be rebelling against the concept of life itself, eliminating resistance to her powers and nullifying any damage she takes as a result. In addition, since the Earth Mother Goddess fed man with her blood before devouring them herself in a never ending cycle, BB also obtains authority over life and death. Her authority is such that even Gilgamesh, the King of Heroes and humanity's oldest hero, would have no counter for it when summoned as a Servant in spite of his nearly infinite treasury. In Fate/Extra CCC: Fox Tail, BB also demonstrates the ability to freeze time and space to prevent her targets' escape before dragging her target into "Bug Space", a realm sealed off from time and space where her victim is no more significant than a bug for her to torture endlessly until they lose their will to live and all sense of self.
  • Self-Modification: After breaking down and escaping the Moon Cell's influence, BB began expanding her functions rapidly, enhancing her functions but breaking down NPCs and other beings to employ as part of her memory, absorbing even Servants in the process. As a result, she is able to constantly evolve and grow even as a hyper-grade AI by absorbing the data of other beings.
  • Ten Crowns: An unidentified skill whose origin lies in a past that even the King of Heroes, who was supposed to be mankind's oldest, cannot reach. At a glance, it is a Skill that makes it as if her injuries and attacks used against her "never happened".
  • Babyfication: A deaging curse BB created to suppress Kingprotea, forcibly reverting the target's age back to that of a child whenever they reach or surpass a certain point. Even if one were to possess a growth skill that would age them to their prime, this curse would once again take effect to turn them back into a child. This curse is also contagious, affecting those who come into contact with Kingprotea's inner self, but can be resisted if one is well-versed in the use of curses themselves.
So I was deciding on whether to do it or not. I decided what could go wrong? And I decided to make the thread.

Now I have a bad feeling.

Uhh, Speed Equal? BB is 5-A, DT starts at 5-A.

Who wins?

BB (Fate/Extra CCC): 0

Disembodied Thought: 0

Inconclusive: 0
 
Dude you didn't make the Profiles Collapsible.

I'll camp out here to see the bloodshed.
 
Well that's the point.

Collapsible profiles sometimes screw things up.
 
Then don't have the profiles in the Original Post.
 
We are trying to put Weekly and Monarch in a death battle.
 
Yes we can, it's the Disembodied Thought not Avatar Of Calamity.

He just starts possessing something that's 5-A.
 
Well whatever the case may be, not sure if DT can deal with CCC or any of BBs Hax for that matter.
 
She does have Mental Resilience.

Not good enough for the Golden Gate though.
 
ThisIsMySwagPack said:
With her upgrades she would resist it, but not if it's gonna be 1-B.
BB's resistance can resist literally every thought or idea she's ever had being used against it?
 
So basically, if you read the profiles I took my sweet time posting.

"The Golden Gate: The Golden Gate is a pocket reality that manipulates the mind of anyone and anything in it by convincing them, and everything else inside it, that there is no reality beyond it, and then uses any thoughts or idea one has ever had or encountered to further strengthen this effect. The only way to escape the Golden Gate is to purge your mind of every thought you've ever had or encountered."
 
DT starts at possessing something 5-A.

DT possesses the sun

DT possesses the Solar System

DT possesses the Star Systen

DT possesses the Galaxy

DT possesses a super cluster

DT moves 1 dimension Higher And goes to possess the Moon Cell

BB says lolno because to possess the moon cell as she did, you've Got to hack it, and that took her an essentially infinite amount of time.

BB CCCs everything and expunged the concept of the DT from reality.

Fini
 
It's basically:

1-B >>>>>>> mind resistance that BB is getting (higher dimensional) >>>>>>>>> mind hax that the DT has right now >>>>> Resistance that BB has right now.

It should be probably best to wait tbh. Both have an ongoing revision
 
Maybe, but regardless of how good it's mind hax is, it can't reach her mind unless it can hack the moon cell. Which BB, a super high grade AI, was only capable of doing after she placed herself in imaginary number space to give herself an infinite amount of time to attempt it
 
That sounds impressive until you remember that if the upgrade goes through the possession is 1-B so it crushes whatever defense the Moon Cell has.

That's why I said wait.
 
I've seen how the DT's possession works.

It starts at 5-A here, and has to make its way up through larger and larger structures before it can eventually make it to a higher dimension. Only then can it even affect the Moon Cell Or BB's consciousness, and if it wants to "crush" its defenses it needs to get to a higher dimension still. Meanwhile, BB who is watching from a higher dimensional perspective, decides she doesn't like the idea of giving it the chance, and places herself in indefinite time to give herself the chance she needs to CCC it.

Or she sticks a babification curse on it forcing it to go back to possessing atoms and needing to climb all the way back up before suddenly regressing down again.

Also, why does the DT have the golden gate? Isn't that an obstacle that affects it?
 
@Monarch Actually no it doesnt, it can grow to that size whenever it wants, it doesn't have to possess things to get bigger by the end of the game

Once it surpasses the Golden Gate it gains the ability to return and turn back into it whenever it wants
 
Ok.

Well, regardless, it doesn't know about the Moon Cell or BB's consciousness being merged with it, so it would have no reason to immediately ascend to a higher dimension to take on the BB/Moon Cell when the physical version of BB is standing there fighting it. And then the Moon Cell BB deletes it. Or CCCs it and its concept.

Makes sense. However, its mind hax would only hit the physical BB who gets stuck inside the pocket reality / the DT, not the Moon Cell Mind, which would still be able to delete it, write laws saying it can't possess anything anymore, it can't exist, CCC it, etc etc

Also, the DT isn't acausal, so she could just as easily go back in time to a point where it doesn't have the Golden Gate or a massive supply of forms to change into and kill it there.
 
Ooh this looks interesting a really haxed Fate character versus everything (Literally) never thought I see the day. Anyway I think I'll wait til, the upgrades come around until I make a decision.
 
How exactly would the Moon Cell or BB even know about what the Disembodied Thought is though? And i thought the Moon Cell could only effect thing that originate from Earth?

Would that not cut her off from the Moon Cell though? Her page even says she is weakened if she is removed from it, does this not qualify?
 
WeeklyBattles said:
How exactly would the Moon Cell or BB even know about what the Disembodied Thought is though? And i thought the Moon Cell could only effect thing that originate from Earth?
Why does she need to know what it is? She's been told to kill it, and it's not like she's lacking in ways to do so.

And no. The only thing that "not originating from earth" affects is her Earth Mother's Authority / Potnia Theron, meaning she can't just lolcausalitynope everything you do to her and your resistances to her abilities. Moon Cell abilities, and all of her other abilities, work just fine.

Would that not cut her off from the Moon Cell though? Her page even says she is weakened if she is removed from it, does this not qualify?

The Moon Cell is comprised of thousands of reality marbles, all of which are pocket dimensions of their own. People such as Archer (Fate/stay night) and Playable Saber (Nero) both have pocket dimensions and pocket-dimension-esque abilities (respectively) that do nothing to cut her off from her power.

Also, the Golden Gate would only trap the BB standing right there in front of the DT. The BB's of past and future, and the BB's higher dimensional consciousness merged with the Moon Cell would both be unaffected.
 
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