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Dragon Ball Z Anime Is Canon

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So I looked up online and found interviews about Akira Toriyama talking about Dragon Ball franchises and guess what? According to him from a direct statement in an interview, Dragon Ball Z anime is canon:

https://www.pojo.com/dragonball/interviews/toriyama.shtml

Q: How would you position the Dragon Ball Z anime (TV series)?

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A: I consider the TV animation to be in "one dimension" with the Manga. I have what I call Canon, which is the TV series and the original, printed comic edition works that are directly tied into continuity.

Even if you don't want to consider Dragon Ball Z anime canon, you have no choice but to consider Dragon Ball Z Kai canon since it's more closer to the manga, and I'm 100% sure Kid Buu destroyed a galaxy over time in Dragon Ball Z Kai. Which means everyone of the Super Saiyan 3 tier characters should be upgraded to Multi-Solar System level.


Also the print on the left has Akira Toriyama talking about Dragon Ball is both the manga and the anime in French which further proves its canonicity.
 
Kai clearly isn't canon and that statement dosn't have anything that says it is. I agree on the anime being canon, though.
 
The Author's word has no meaning/bearing on what's canon or not, from what I gather.

Which makes no sense but hey, whatevs.
 
Anime contradicts the manga in several occations, so no matter what Tori says (although I consider this source questionable), the anime isn't in "one dimension" with the manga.
 
JohnCenaNation said:
Q: How would you position the Dragon Ball Z anime (TV series)?

A: I consider the TV animation to be in "one dimension" with the Manga. I have what I call Canon, which is the TV series and the original, printed comic edition works that are directly tied into continuity

Even if you don't want to consider Dragon Ball Z anime canon, you have no choice but to consider Dragon Ball Z Kai canon since it's more closer to the manga, and I'm 100% sure Kid Buu destroyed a galaxy over time in Dragon Ball Z Kai. Which means everyone of the Super Saiyan 3 tier characters should be upgraded to Multi-Solar System level.
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Not really.

I'm pretty sure he's used the dimension comparison with the movies, which are Canon, but not in the same continuity as the main series. And likewise, Kai isn't Canon to the manga. Considering our profiles are based on Manga versions up till a forking mistake Super, it still really doesn't effect our profiles.
 
How does the anime contradict the manga again?

People say that...

I don't remember any instances really.

If anything, the anime just fills in more details the manga left out.
 
Akreious said:
How does the anime contradict the manga again?

People say that...

I don't remember any instances really.

If anything, the anime just fills in more details the manga left out.
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Exactly!
 
Indeed, but those pages never explain how or why xD

The manga said Buu is a threat to the universe, the anime depicts a galaxy being wiped away. There's no contradiction, the Anime just fills in info that the manga left out (That and drawing a galaxy by hand as one person who's notoriously lazy is... yeah. You can see why Toriyama left it out even if he had the intention to mean he wiped out a galaxy)
 
Anime also add characters that do not exist in canon, such Gregory or Pikkon/Paikuhan(?), the first one appears in several episodes, someyhing that debunks the "filling up" debate.
 
Antoniofer said:
Anime also add characters that do not exist in canon, such Gregory or Pikkon/Paikuhan(?), the first one appears in several episodes, someyhing that debunks the "filling up" debate.
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But they don't contradict the storyline, now do they?
 
I do not think anime only characters like Princess Snake and Icarus exist in the regular continuity, the Broly movie proves that its another continuity.
 
How does filler contradict the main storyline? What?

And it's not like people like Pikkon and Gregory were actually "relevant", Pikkon basically got stomped as a fodder against Buu in the anime no difficulty so it's not like Pikkon destroys the scaling.
 
SomebodyData said:
Doesnt Gregory, ironically enough appear in Super tho? @Antonio
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Yes, but that's due Super anime is made by Toei, its creator. It did not appeared in the original movies nor manga. Consumerism I guess.

@John, essentially, no, but it alters it rather than filling up some holes.
 
Every db series is canon to their own continuity, we use the manga one as the primary one and we should not mix them.
 
Sooo...

Then why don't we use Dragon Ball Kai?

It doesn't contradict anything, it cuts most of the filler that people have problems with that causes "Contradictions"
 
Dark649 said:
Every db series is canon to their own continuity, we use the manga one as the primary one and we should not mix them.
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That's considered double standard since Dragon Ball Super manga came first as the primary source and we are not using it instead of Dragon Ball Super anime.
 
Except that Kai version of hell is the Toei one, and not the one Toriyama showed in ROF.
 
Dark649 said:
Except that Kai version of hell is the Toei one, and not the one Toriyama showed in ROF.
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Have you ever considered there are many versions of Hell, and Frieza being transferred from one Hell to another, just like how Piccolo was transferred from Heaven to Hell in Dragon Ball GT? Also, no where in the Dragon Ball manga was it stated Frieza was in a different Hell from the usual Hell.
 
Dark649 said:
Except that Kai version of hell is the Toei one, and not the one Toriyama showed in ROF.
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... What? the RoF Hell is a personal hell for Freeza, not the regular hell shown in the Toei verse. There's absolutely nothing to say that the judgement boi determined that regular hell just isn't doing it so he sent Freeza to, essentially disney land.
 
JohnCenaNation said:
That's considered double standard since Dragon Ball Super manga came first as the primary source and we are not using it instead of Dragon Ball Super anime.
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It's because the Super Anime one was also envisioned by Toriyama, while manga one is done by Toyotaro. Anime Super started by adapting the BOG and ROF arcs, the manga altered many things and skipped the ROF arc.
 
It's because the Super Anime one was also envisioned by Toriyama, while manga one by Toyotaro. Anime Super started by adapting the BOG and ROF arcs, the manga altered many things and skipped the ROF arc.

Which is a good thing! Unlike the anime version, the Dragon Ball Super manga followed the Dragon Ball manga by not introducing Kaio-ken something which the Dragon Ball Super anime did and contradicted. Also Dragon Ball Super manga didn't show Frieza being in a separate Hell which the anime did and once again contradict itself again. Also the manga didn't skip the arc, read Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection of F manga, and they are both envisioned by Toriyama.
 
No matter how you put it, it's still just an adaptation. Both the Manga and Anime tell a slightly different story, so they cannot take place in the same universe. Not even the Alternate Timeline idea seem to work in the DB cosmology.
 
Both versions of Super were supervised by Tori tho, and the manga technically didn't alter anything cuz is made independently of Toei. Both versions altered the original BoG.
 
I mean...

The explanation for why Goku never used Kaioken until he got to SSB makes sense. And the whole "strain" thing also makes sense.

So.........................

Also it's blatantly clear that DBS Manga and Anime are completely different continuities. Like, I can't even argue against it. It's more different than the original DBZ anime is to the DB Manga.
 
Its cuz Super is a mistake. Anyway, not sure hiw Super have to do with all this, we have already discussed this issue many times; we consider adaptations to be secundary canon (at most), so if it contradicts the first source, then we do not use it.
 
I agree with Antoniofer, Dark649 and Saikou. We should probably close this thread.
 
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