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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 91

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3-B no one can convince me otherwise.

What feats did he have? I haven't watched the movie in a couple of years, so I'm not sure. I remember Beerus destroying a few stars at the end of the movie during his rampage, but maybe I'm not remembering correctly.
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Battle of Gods Movie Beerus vs 3-B Chou Goku, who wins?
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Well, BoG movie Beerus is arguably 3-B based on two multi-galaxy level statements, and it's implied he could perform these feats fairly casually. Chou Goku's "At least 3-B" key (if that's what you're referring to) is based on scaling from SSJG Goku (against Beerus) who had a vague multi-galaxy to universe level feat. So we have possibly casual multi-galaxy busting versus at least multi-galaxy to possibly universe busting, which is based on an actual feat rather than statements. Then you need to take into account speed. Since BoG Beerus isn't considered on par with canon Beerus for obvious reasons, we can also say his speed is lower, unfortunately, it's near impossible to determine where BoG movie Beerus and SSJB Chou Goku place in terms of speed, I think, so I'll just say they're equal. Otherwise, you have experience, skill, and intelligence, where Beerus dominates Goku in every aspect. If we said they're also equal in strength, since, again, there's no way to determine their exact spot in 3-B, just that they're both in said tier, then Beerus wins easily.
 
Lollipop The King said:
Just you wait, everytime DB looks like it'll get a boost, the Tier requirement changes to **** it over.
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Let's hope that never happens yet we cannot discard that possibility.
 
I have a question, where does the Passive part of Mechikabura's Absorption come from? In the Manga it's very clear that it wasn't Passive and Mechikabura had to actively make a Black Hole to suck them in. While the Video Game only has character dialogue and static character portraits, and the translation I read mentioned nothing about how the Absorption worked or it being Passive.

So is their another Source I don't know about that points to the Absorption being Passive?
 
The absorption seems to work the same way in the game - Mechikabura uses a black hole (which Demigra says had existed for millions of years, so it's not something he can make on a whim) to absorb everything. There are a couple differences though - this happens after Mechikabura had obliterated space-time (that's why Mechikabura was after Tokitoki, he needed to stop the bird from undoing the damage) so there wasn't much to absorb, and Mechikabura was using the energy absorbed by the black hole to power his Time Power Unleashed form.
 
Thank you for the explanation, though that doesn't help to explain why its Passive, when seemingly the only depiction of the event is this, which isn't Passive

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Well, DB is finally 2-A. So long to them being the AP overlords of 2-B.
 
True, that was probably better, and as stated in the revision thread, DB will now be a 2-A punching bag. Imagine being 2-A but having fodder hax, with only a few notable abilities. Also I think it's baseline 2-A, right? On the plus side, now I'll have Archie Sonic Vs. DBH matches to laugh at.

Now I wait for Undertale to reach 2-A again, so I can make meme stomp matches in F&G.
 
The cosmology is 12-18 times baseline 2-A (I think) and Base Xeno Goku scales to this. Then there's the humongous scaling chain to follow that.
 
Planck69 said:
The cosmology is 12-18 times baseline 2-A (I think) and Base Xeno Goku scales to this. Then there's the humongous scaling chain to follow that.
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Oh wow, I was way off. Still a punching bag with fodder hax though. It's like training, climbing through ranks, then making it to a big tournament and just getting curb-stomped. I'm still partially amazed that DBH finally got 2-A upgrades, though. Low 2-C Doomslayer is going to happen eventually, anything is possible.
 
Then again though, I think it really shouldn't be seen as so incredible. It's just that someone finally found some good evidence to use, which looks like something that wouldn't be too hard to find, anyways.
 
I mean, several 2-As get AP stomped or speed-blitzed. Not all of them are Type 1 Abstracts with godly regen and hax-walls. DB isn't high-end at all but they're not the absolute bottom either.
 
They're basically in mid levels for 2-A's, from my understanding. Zeno should be tier 0 because he's clearly supposed to be omnipotent.
 
The 2nd Existential Seed said:
We are currently conversing about how high-end the cosmology is , but based on the info provided, it might very well be far, far higher than 12-18x 2-A
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Insert the Thanos "Impossible" meme here.
 
Planck69 said:
RinneItachi said:
I think Superman hax stomps, but yes, finally.
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His only hax is molecular heat-vision to my knowledge.
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He also has low-mid to mid regen and intangibility, although not as much hax as I previously thought. Superman Prime One-Million created a universe meaning he's omnipotent. You know what, I should just go make the match, I think.
 
His only hax is molecular heat-vision to my knowledge.

Than it would just end the same way as the last Goku vs Superman only I think that Goku can absorb energy in some way
 
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