Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 42

[Dust_Collector]

"A faster than light battle"

Well about damn time Super acknowledged it.

Shame thats hyperbole. Dragon Ball top tiers are mach 7 at best.

 

[Jeune_fou]

Kid goku and some other dragon ball (before Radditz) characters are high hypersonic + (mach 10 - 25) and some (later kid Goku and Piccolo) are high hypersonic (mach 25 - 50).

 

[Jeune_fou]

GT is a bit darker. I wish they do a reboot on it. Eliminate all the trash and keep a few concepts.

The end of the future trunks arc was pretty damn dark and now they have to deal with Zen'ô destroying universes and destructions are shown ... you see people "dying".

 

[Shock97]

"A faster than light battle"
Well about damn time Super acknowledged it.

Watch them prevent a battle forums apocalypse by having them go Quadrillions of times faster. That or they go at that exact speed and all hell breaks loose XD

 

[Golden_Void]

Only the angels and hakaishins have MFTL feats. Everybody else is just MFTE. No I'm not joking.

 

[FTW395]

I hope Jiren's power is moving faster than light and people make a big deal out of it.

Tbf he's hyped to be really fast, wouldn't surprise me if we get some shocking quotes from Goku stating stuff like "Wow! He's even Faster than light!!!!" Oh lord have I been watching in fear for something like that you happen.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

>when DBS goes he's SoL i can see all the threads will bombard...

 

[Ssr4vegito]

Its just a title no need to make a big deal about it

 

[Golden_Void]

It will be debunked faster than Mach 2 CW Flash lmao

 

[Shock97]

Its just a title no need to make a big deal about it

I thought "The Universe Crumbles" was just a title too lol

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

@Shock Yeah, but that was also a title that became a reality afterward.

This is a title that has long become a reality.

 

[RoyGundam]

It will be debunked faster than Mach 2 CW Flash lmao

I don't know man. Pretty much all of DBZ and DBS combat/physical movement speeds are scaled from Piccolo destroying the Moon. That's a pretty shaky foundation. AFAIK, Frieza's death beams are currently not accepted as Speed of Light

 

[Shock97]

@Shock Yeah, but that was also a title that became a reality afterward.
This is a title that has long become a reality.

I hope the writers remember this. Because I wouldn't put it past the show to treat this upcoming episode as the first time anyone not a Hakaishin or Angel is lightspeed+

 

[SITHISIT]

if it says that he's SOL then we're writing it off as PIS, Goku has feats of being FTL since DBZ and no writer gets to say hes SOL

 

[AppleLord]

Goku's New Form leaked in merchandise again!? [1] It looks like SSJGSSJ2 hair with red color!? Possibly Master Kaioken and absorb it like he did with his God-ki?

 

[AppleLord]

^ Look behind the chocolate of course.

 

[Dark649]

Basically this with more Brownish Super Saiyan hair, nothing impressive.

 

[AppleLord]

Where did you get that? Fan made!?

 

[Dark649]

Fan made!?

Yes, several older recolor ones from prior the Battle of Gods Movie were similar to all the forms introduced later.

 

[Golden_Void]

Yet he hasn't even mastered SSB unlike his manga counterpart.

 

[FTW395]

Boooooooooriiiiing give me the form on the leaked image with black hair or give me somethiing original like ssj4. Another recolour of super saiyan with a colour that we've already used would be insanely boring.

 

[Joseph619]

Only the angels and hakaishins have MFTL feats. Everybody else is just MFTE. No I'm not joking.

Does Goku have a single FTL feat apart from the controversial Namek one?

 

[Dark649]

Does Goku have a single FTL feat apart from the controversial Namek one?

Apperently not, the last DBZ speed feat is the Gotenks one, which is close to Sub-Relativistic by Radical, who was helped by Antoniofer.

 

[RoyGundam]

Does Goku have a single FTL feat apart from the controversial Namek one?

Goku gets his FTL+ stats by scaling up from Piccolo's Moon Destruction Beam speed - which was Sub-Relativistic if I remember correctly. Goku's scaling is done via KaioKen boosts which are simple multipliers and give a value around 20 times the speed of light by the time he hits Super Saiyan.

 

[Joseph619]

Goku gets his FTL+ stats by scaling up from Piccolo's Moon Destruction Beam speed - which was Sub-Relativistic if I remember correctly. Goku's scaling is done via KaioKen boosts which are simple multipliers and give a value around 20 times the speed of light by the time he hits Super Saiyan.

I know how he gets his stats, but those are not speed feats.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Yet he hasn't even mastered SSB unlike his manga counterpart.

That power up was still bull.

 

[RoyGundam]

It is a speed feat in the sense that Goku and others can react to and dodge ki-beams whose speeds are based off of Piccolo's Moon Busting feat. There's almost no impressive speed feat per se before Whis came along. Goku's snake road feat had a decent value (MHS+ or Sub-Rel, I don't exactly remember), and Gotenks circling the world several times was another but not significantly better. A third feat was Goku crossing half of Namek instantaneously - but that is controversial for many reasons

 

[DodoNova2]

Fortunately that beerus and whis exists because otherwise ....

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Snake Way was like, Mach 50

 

[RoyGundam]

^That's pitiful. Even Dragon Ball probably had better speed feats then (Some lightning feats were there I believe)

 

[PaChi2]

Could we get a speed feat for Zeno destroying Trunks' universe?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

That was calced at like 8 quintillion c, but it's not scalable to even Zen'ō

 

[PaChi2]

@Cal not even for hiis attack speed?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

It is, but only for that kind of attack, as even DB shows that beams=/=waves

 

[Ryukama]

I thought that feat wasn't used due to deriving speed from the AoE of an attack. Like we wouldn't rate Boros FTL+ because his attack can instantly blow up the planet or every Tier 3 MFTL+ for the same reason.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Why would blowing up a planet get FTL+?

 

[Ryukama]

It was just an example. I don't know the exact speed. But I mean using the reasoning that the explosion crosses a planet's diameter instantly or something. I thought the reason we didn't use that feat was because we don't rate speed like that. At least it's what other Calc Members have told me.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@Ryu. Well, yeah. Basically.

 

[Megamangohan]

less power = more brains

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Man Base Goku must be Omnniscient with a brain like that.