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I feel like we'll get a clear view of the universes when Zeno starts blowing them up.
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 31
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"Universal Kaguya"
This shit has been debunked so many times it's pure bullshit, get out of here.
This shit has been debunked so many times it's pure bullshit, get out of here.
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Either way it's a big '''NO'''.
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Its not canon, there can we leavethe Kaguya stuff alone?
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What about Otherworld and Hell and all that? What's the staff's consensus on those places? Do they share the same spacetime as the universes?Dragonmasterxyz said:
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that wouldn't make seanse what about the time chamber?FTW395 said:
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"As people from one universe can travel to another with simple flight" < One of the reasons that made the staff believe the DB Multiverse share the same space-time.
Firt of all, the only person who actually did this was Whis. And second, a simple instance that goes against this argument is, Whis was also able to travel to the Kaioshin Realm, a realm stated to be outside of the universe, and cannot be reached by normal flight, unless the person is dead (iirc) or through the use of teleportation (Kai-kai for example). If Whis was able to do it through sheer "flight", then does that mean the Kaioshin Realm is actually not outside of the universe? Of course not, it just shows or at least, hints that Whis has cross universal/dimensional travel. There's even a Warp ability listed in his profile for God's sake, which says and I quote "A transportation technique used by Whis to allow himself and Beerus to travel between realms, and also through time"
We know very little about Whis, he could have corss universal travel for all we know (as shown and hinted), so why not simply treat this as such, rather than trying to say "this is proof that the DB universes share 1 space-time!"
Firt of all, the only person who actually did this was Whis. And second, a simple instance that goes against this argument is, Whis was also able to travel to the Kaioshin Realm, a realm stated to be outside of the universe, and cannot be reached by normal flight, unless the person is dead (iirc) or through the use of teleportation (Kai-kai for example). If Whis was able to do it through sheer "flight", then does that mean the Kaioshin Realm is actually not outside of the universe? Of course not, it just shows or at least, hints that Whis has cross universal/dimensional travel. There's even a Warp ability listed in his profile for God's sake, which says and I quote "A transportation technique used by Whis to allow himself and Beerus to travel between realms, and also through time"
We know very little about Whis, he could have corss universal travel for all we know (as shown and hinted), so why not simply treat this as such, rather than trying to say "this is proof that the DB universes share 1 space-time!"
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It's very illogical for all the universes to have the same space time if that's true the 12 universes should've been affected when Zeno destroyed 6 universes but they weren't affected at all
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I like how you are still focused on the universe space-time that you forget something good came out of it....
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???
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The characters get a massive speed upgrade.
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While I personally don't believe they share 1 either I'll humour this site so I'll instead ask this..... Just how fast would that make them dragon?Dragonmasterxyz said:
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I believe they are in the Quadrillions or Quintillions. I don't know which result they are using.
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Zeno would be the only one in the quintillions, but it's for attack speed. The GoDs are in the quadrillions. Saiyan gods, Frieza, and Zamasu are lower.
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Wait I thought the Saiyan Gods were in the Quadrillions since SSG Goku can react to a semi-serious Beerus.
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In other words saint seiya still ROFL speed stomps I presume? On a side note to Matthew schroeder did you know animation rewind is making a Pegasus seiya v.s goku episode next?The real cal howard said:
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So the trade off is, we get an uber fast Zeno instead of a proper 2-C Zeno.Dragonmasterxyz said:
Ehh... what good is the quadrillions of c if speed is always equalized on this site?
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Could I get y'all's opinion on this? https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/586365
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Nothing good came out of it. Speed is always equalized in order to go on the victories and losses lol.
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Well getting a proper 2-C zeno doesn't exactly make his tiering any better due to his non-existent hax, the higher up on the scale he goes, the weaker he is going to look in comparision to others on his tier. I am fine with a speed upgrade for now.
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There is a time you need to just take what you can get....
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Celestial Pegasus said:
Well how does his current speed compare to others in his tier?
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Excluding saint seiya characters who are in like what the hundreds of quintillions to sextillions to times FTL, and dialga and palkia who are infinite i think, should be pretty decent, though there might be like some omnipresent guys around i think, but on average it should be decent, would have check out the speeds to confirm.
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*to tens of septillionsCelestial Pegasus said:
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Yea septillions as well......
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I mean, technically, all. We know nothing about Zeno's true power. I only expect r-warping tho.
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If I'm honest:
R-Warping
Void Manipulation
Matter Manipulation
Power Nullification
R-Warping
Void Manipulation
Matter Manipulation
Power Nullification
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Cal I don't even want to imagine what would happen if zen'o showed Conceptual manipulation ..... Dear god the amount of buzz that would be created from that for the db fans would be Insane...The real cal howard said:
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Honest, i expect zeno to show space-time manipulation, concept manipulation, void manipulation and decent reality warping at some point later on
either that and/or hax negation
either that and/or hax negation
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