Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Nierre]

Although Zamasu is not an ordinary creation God, as he can defend against ssj2's attacks

I liked this scene alot

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I liked this scene alot

Me too, seeing Zamasu getting beaten up by Goku is really good

 

[ChronoULT]

hey guys, originally this was supposed to come out as a CRT as soon as I finished it, but I just found a job so I need to finish it as soon as possible and I would like to know your opinion:

I made a rework of Frieza's page, with new renders, new abilities, gif, etc. It is 90% finished, maybe tonight or tomorrow night it can be finished, and I would like to know your opinions and if you would change anything

old page

new page

It looks amazing, good job! Revamping the profiles just like the way you did with scroll boxes, manga renders and etc is something i really want to do for the verse, but having so much caprice takes time and i feel like i should make P&A pages first. Also, i am lazy. Glad to see someone was willing to do it too.

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

Wouldn't Gregory existing in Dragon Ball Super make the anime more of a continuation of the DBZ anime than the manga?

It does, and it's not the only thing, even trunks turning ssj is the anime route this wiki for some reason still takes manga over the DBZ Kai

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I still wan´t to know what are the "Incoherences" of DBZ Kai

 

[Nullflowerblush]

this wiki for some reason still takes manga over the DBZ Kai

probably because the manga is explicitly stated to be its prequel
plus jaco exists
and the whole dragon ball minus-broly thing
and hell is different

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

probably because the manga is explicitly stated to be its prequel
plus jaco exists
and the whole dragon ball minus-broly thing
and hell is different

Is there any incoherence besides the way hell is represented?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I can't keep doing this.

 

[ProudLearner]

hey guys, originally this was supposed to come out as a CRT as soon as I finished it, but I just found a job so I need to finish it as soon as possible and I would like to know your opinion:

I made a rework of Frieza's page, with new renders, new abilities, gif, etc. It is 90% finished, maybe tonight or tomorrow night it can be finished, and I would like to know your opinions and if you would change anything

old page

new page

Limited Damage Reduction and Elasticity (via Battle Armour) DB Chapter 291/03

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Stop asking people to back up their claims that's not okay.

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

probably because the manga is explicitly stated to be its prequel

And yet super anime ignored the manga over the anime on major plot points, carries over anime only events and characters, which clearly means it follows the anime, not to mention it was also displayed as on between DBZ and dbgt, so that "statement" has been overturned

plus jaco exists
and the whole dragon ball minus-broly thing

Not sure what this has to do with anything, both super manga and anime canonized the Jaco Manga , more sure what broly has to do with it

and hell is different

Ah yes, hell looks artistically different , which has no implication whatsoever to the story, as opposed to future trunks super Saiyan origins, Gregory, Bulma being swapped into a frog all in Kai, and not on the manga, and in the case of trunks, outright going against the manga in favour of the anime?

Is there any incoherence besides the way hell is represented?

None, whatsoever

 

[Nullflowerblush]

And yet super anime ignored the manga over the anime on major plot points

Gregory is not involved in ANY major plot points.

carries over anime only events and characters

And, suspiciously, manga-only characters and concepts, like the Galactic King destroying a planet-sized asteroid or the Galactic Patrol and the character of Tights in their entirety, or Future Trunks and Bulma sharing a hair color, or the Duo of Robbers that Videl encounters hijacking a bus,

not to mention it was also displayed as on between DBZ and dbgt, so that "statement" has been overturned

uhh...
2021 supersedes 2017, I believe.

Not sure what this has to do with anything, both super manga and anime canonized the Jaco Manga

No, Toriyama inserted Jaco the Galactic Patrolman (or, rather, the Galactic Patrol series) into the canon of the original series as its prequel—in 2013; shortly after the release of Battle of Gods. Occam's razor, Super incorporating characters and concepts from the Galactic Patrol series indicates original series -> Super.

Ah yes, hell looks artistically different , which has no implication whatsoever to the story

Hell is completely conceptually different. Is this merely ignorance, or are you simply being disingenuous? In the TV anime, Hell is a singular, ever-expansive, demonic plane of existence where evil, dead souls from across the entire universe—including the likes of Cell, the Ginyu Force, Android 20, King Cold, and Frieza—reside. In Super, the Hell that Frieza is trapped in is a multi-layered realm that apparently tethered specifically to Earth, with each layer holding different souls for different purposes.

as opposed to future trunks super Saiyan origins

Gohan dies all the same. The Future Androids rampage across the world all the same. Trunks finds Gohan's body all the same. The only thing that changed is that Trunks transformed upon finding Gohan's body, which could literally fit in any interpretation. And, is largely irrelevant.

outright going against the manga in favour of the anime?

"Going against the manga" or "supplementary, previously non-canon content being incorporated into continuity"?
Are Ado and Kado canon? Is New Planet Vegeta canon? Is Android 21 canon?

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

All thisnjust sounds like the merging of the two continuties to me. Because one on hand disregarding blatant anime shit as irrelevant based on actually nothing and bringing in equally irrelevant manga shit as a counter arguement is weak sauce, but with the differences in Hell's layout and whatnot also means it's simply not 1 to 1 anime to Super.

So to me it sounds like it's a cluster **** of merged continuities. Because contradiction exist for it existing solely to one continuity.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I was looking through ki manipulation and was surprised that it doesn’t have atomic level destruction listed. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ki_Manipulation_(Dragon_Ball)?so=search

It’s been stated multiple times that DB character can atomize people.

I wanted that too, but every time we try it there is a translation error and a guy who pays for a Japanese translator says it's wrong

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

All thisnjust sounds like the merging of the two continuties to me. Because one on hand disregarding blatant anime shit as irrelevant based on actually nothing and bringing in equally irrelevant manga shit as a counter arguement is weak sauce, but with the differences in Hell's layout and whatnot also means it's simply not 1 to 1 anime to Super.

So to me it sounds like it's a cluster **** of merged continuities. Because contradiction exist for it existing solely to one continuity.

Very cool to nullify all the evidence we have with just a few mentions of the manga, but work showing the opposite. Lol

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

I agree with Null here.

 

[RedReaper616]

Are Ado and Kado canon?

Considering Tarble was referenced by Bulma, which everyone else then corroborated, (implying they met), I wouldn’t be surprised if they were canon.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

It's moments like this when the futility of the hobby hits me. But then, dc goes brrrr.

 

[ChoursDropoff]

I wanted that too, but every time we try it there is a translation error and a guy who pays for a Japanese translator says it's wrong

Lol wait what? He pays a Japanese translator just to say it’s wrong? That is pathetic who is he?

 

[ChoursDropoff]

Android 21 is likely canon we see her in super hero

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Android 21 is likely canon we see her in super hero

We see Dr Gero's wife, but the story don't says to us anything about she being an android

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Lol wait what? He pays a Japanese translator just to say it’s wrong? That is pathetic who is he?

Yes

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

All thisnjust sounds like the merging of the two continuties to me. Because one on hand disregarding blatant anime shit as irrelevant based on actually nothing and bringing in equally irrelevant manga shit as a counter arguement is weak sauce, but with the differences in Hell's layout and whatnot also means it's simply not 1 to 1 anime to Super.

So to me it sounds like it's a cluster **** of merged continuities. Because contradiction exist for it existing solely to one continuity.

DBS has changed/retconned things in both media, but Trunks turning ssj for the first time after Gohan dies was a huge nod to the anime as the preferred canon for DBS anime , as this event was present in both but at odds with each other


But there's no point arguing for it anyway, manga seems to be the preferred canon

 

[Omegabronic]

man i hate that i keep stopping getting notifications for this thread, it is only this thread, why does this happen?

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

man i hate that i keep stopping getting notifications for this thread, it is only this thread, why does this happen?

I feel ya, happens to me to

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Hold up, this is actually so clean

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Lol, head shakes like a toy.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Lol, head shakes like a toy.

Hahahahah

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Oi guys little out of topic with db but is that high regen?

Spoiler

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Oi guys little out of topic with db but is that high regen?

Spoiler

You are Brazilian and I didn't know, why did you never tell me?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Oi guys little out of topic with db but is that high regen?

Spoiler

[/SPOILER

I don't there is enough on this scan to give any level of regeneration

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I don't there is enough on this scan to give any level of regeneration

He's saying that common weapons don't work, because these beings have cores based on thoughts, I think the core is capable of giving type 8 immortality

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

He's saying that common weapons don't work, because these beings have cores based on thoughts, I think the core is capable of giving type 8 immortality

He says that their core is a "thought", but he don't says If It is a literal thought, also, It could just means that convencional weapons doesn't work on them

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

He says that their core is a "thought", but he don't says If It is a literal thought, also, It could just means that convencional weapons doesn't work on them

Have you ever seen a thought not be a thought? Because I've never seen that, from what I can understand the core is made of thoughts, as long as that thought can't be destroyed it can keep coming back, from my experiences with manga most beings that can only be killed if you destroy the core have typical immortality 8, as he literally needs that single core to survive.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

So some more stuff for anyone interested. No idea if that helps more.

Spoiler

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Have you ever seen a thought not be a thought? Because I've never seen that, from what I can understand the core is made of thoughts, as long as that thought can't be destroyed it can keep coming back, from my experiences with manga most beings that can only be killed if you destroy the core have typical immortality 8, as he literally needs that single core to survive.

That´s not how it works lol

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

So some more stuff for anyone interested. No idea if that helps more.

Spoiler

Abstract Existence Type 2, i guess

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Aye I can get behind that for the most fodder of fodders in the verse. Kinda crazy.