Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Serlock_Holmes]

mofo classified as having 5-D range but gets blitzed by lightspeed smh

But then were watching Mui vs Jiren

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

But then were watching Mui vs Jiren

which means Dyspo is faster, of course!

 

[ArcaneAbyss]

How do they punch with those baby arms anyway?

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

which means Dyspo is faster, of course!

But not faster than Burter the fastest character in the verse!

Like it was kinda funny hyping dyspo and all that just to shit on everything he did after showing the clashing of Jiren and Goku.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

How do they punch with those baby arms anyway?

My God

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

But not faster than Burter the fastest character in the verse!

Fastest in the universe fr fr

 

[Brogeefrong]

How do they punch with those baby arms anyway?

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Fastest in the universe fr fr

If only he knew about the universes and timelines he wouldn't have underselled himself so much. He also would have probably ******* his pants but eh. It's funny thinking about all of DB and DBZ, while knowing a being was sleeping there who could treat Buu as sentient chewing gum.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

I'm working on finding the exact page numbers for one of the scans. In the meantime, I found yet another statement for the Time Room!

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I'm working on finding the exact page numbers for one of the scans. In the meantime, I found yet another statement for the Time Room!

Good, try to find everything

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

I'm working on finding the exact page numbers for one of the scans. In the meantime, I found yet another statement for the Time Room!

Not included in the other ones?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I'm working on finding the exact page numbers for one of the scans. In the meantime, I found yet another statement for the Time Room!

Don't use gpt man, whenever you translate, ask a translation helper on the wiki, or on translation reddit or something like that.

We've already had verses that were deleted because of automatic translation.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Ok guys, almost everyone out of VSBW knows about the Low 1-C upgrade, how we get the cosmology to 1-A?

 

[Huesito88]

Don't use gpt man, whenever you translate, ask a translation helper on the wiki, or on translation reddit or something like that.

We've already had verses that were deleted because of automatic translation.

He's using chatGpt to find potential stuff, I doubt he'll actually go and use the suggested the translation given by chatGpt for a thread, I'm sure he'll go to redditors or other credible translators here to confirm if that's true, before then using what they said for it's addition.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Don't use gpt man, whenever you translate, ask a translation helper on the wiki, or on translation reddit or something like that.

We've already had verses that were deleted because of automatic translation.

Yeah, Chat GPT has many translation errors

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

All right everyone, I've finished citing the sources!

Time Room Statements

• All of space-time across past/present/future is created here.
• Genuinely sends you back in time.
• Daizenshuu states that all time periods are created there, further confirming that the first statement is literal (raw scan).[1]
• It's also stated in the Daizenshuu that the Time Room is a strange room that seems to actively govern time (raw scan).[2]

Pendulum Room Statements

• Past/present/future intersect here.
• Takes your mind on a journey.
• Daizenshuu states it allows you to time travel via your mind (raw scan).[2]

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I asked a translator I know for a translation of that thing and who has already asked for other translations for verses like shuumatsu no valkyrie.

About that "different flow of time" or "time doesn't exist" thing in the afterline of Goku's sentence.

O Goku ta falando no contexto de tempo ser algo que tem efeito no mundo mortal
Ja que na Afterlife, ele não tem risco de tempo limite


Goku is talking in the context of time being something that has an effect on the mortal world
Since in Afterlife, there is no risk of timeouts

Has any official translator of this wiki already translated this scan?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I think we can use translations from sites like reddit, but we need to back up these translations with the canon material or others translations

 

[Phsccarvalho]

All right everyone, I've finished citing the sources!

Excellent. Now all I need to do is translate.

Or with a translator helper from wiki or reddit.

 

[Excellence616]

Ok guys, almost everyone out of VSBW knows about the Low 1-C upgrade, how we get the cosmology to 1-A?

don't even think about it.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

He's using chatGpt to find potential stuff, I doubt he'll actually go and use the suggested the translation given by chatGpt for a thread, I'm sure he'll go to redditors or other credible translators here to confirm if that's true, before then using what they said for it's addition.

He literally just ran the scan with chatgpt

 

[Phsccarvalho]

All right everyone, I've finished citing the sources!

Dude, take those translated raws with chatgpt.

Didn't I just say that we had entire verses deleted from the wiki because of this?

All raws you put in must prove that it was translated by trustworthy humans.

 

[ChronoULT]

Has any official translator of this wiki already translated this scan?

Probably not. Also, based only on this statement and this quote from Executor, would the afterlife qualify for a different space-time even without others sources?

I thought that sharing a time axis was already accepted before as not really being a reason for not being separated space-times. It's one of the most direct ways of showing that they are different, but not something that must happen.

The necessity is for them to exist in parallel, they might share most of spatial and time axis, but not occupying the exact same points in space-time because they are separated by an even infinitesimal amount in another dimensional axis.

If there's enough reason for them to share the same overall space and therefore aren't parallel spaces (As in a quilted where there's only one region of space for everything and it just is very big to the point of repetitions to happen), then it wouldn't be an acceptable multiverse for our system.

Tl;dr Sharing the same temporal axis isn't a reason for that not being Tier 2, it just is one less reason for it to be. However, sharing the same spatial dimensions and baisc travel across space being enough to go mostly everywhere is a reason for just being Tier 3.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Dude, take those translated raws with chatgpt.

Didn't I just say that we had entire verses deleted from the wiki because of this?

All raws you put in must prove that it was translated by trustworthy humans.

Then I guess I should leave it there until I get a response from a translator (already left a request in the translation help thread).

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Probably not. Also, based only on this statement and this quote from Executor, would the afterlife qualify for a different space-time even without others sources?

Now that could be promising

 

[Huesito88]

He literally just ran the scan with chatgpt

Yeah to get an idea on if potential there's anything there to then go to a Redditor. What I'm saying is he won't use the chat gpt scan as it is, qouted for a serious crt thread

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Then I guess I should leave it there until I get a response from a translator (already left a request in the translation help thread).

Dude, take those translated raws with chatgpt.

Didn't I just say that we had entire verses deleted from the wiki because of this?

All raws you put in must prove that it was translated by trustworthy humans.

Seriously, take this back before you get reported.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

All right everyone, I've finished citing the sources!

Even though I disagree with using something that only appeared in the anime for the cosmology of both anime and manga, the fact that Whis turned back the universe's time and only affected the living universe already shows that both the multiverse and other areas such as the Other World do not share the same spacetime as the main universe

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Yeah to get an idea on if potential there's anything there to then go to a Redditor. What I'm saying is he won't use the chat gpt scan as it is, qouted for a serious crt thread

He literally posted the chatgpt scan on his blog.

• It's also stated in the Daizenshuu that the Time Room is a strange room that seems to actively govern time (raw scan).[2]

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Probably not. Also, based only on this statement and this quote from Executor, would the afterlife qualify for a different space-time even without others sources?

Executor left that statement under the staff thread for downgrading the macrocosm to 3-A after the HTC was removed. All he's saying is that spatiotemporal separation doesn't need to introduce new time dimensions, so the fact that other universes are affected by time travel isn't an anti-feat since multiple space-times can share one axis.

 

[ChronoULT]

Executor left that statement under the staff thread for downgrading the macrocosm to 3-A after the HTC was removed. All he's saying is that spatiotemporal separation doesn't need to introduce new time dimensions, so the fact that other universes are affected by time travel isn't an anti-feat since multiple space-times can share one axis.

So, would the afterlife qualify for a different space-time only with Goku's quote? It can't be accessed through normal movement so it's a different space, and time doesn't flow/doesn't exist so it doesn't share the same points in space-time

 

[Phsccarvalho]

flow/doesn't exist

I asked a translator I know for a translation of that thing and who has already asked for other translations for verses like shuumatsu no valkyrie.

About that "different flow of time" or "time doesn't exist" thing in the afterline of Goku's sentence.

Has any official translator of this wiki already translated this scan?

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Seriously, take this back before you get reported.

Just replaced the translation.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Just replaced the translation.

From where is this scan?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Nothing beats the feeling of cold hard raws, I must say...

Room of Time☆ A room inside the Temple of God. This is where the past, present and future time is created. As a young boy, Goku used this room to travel back in time 50 years to meet the young Turtle Hermit and Crane Hermit, and to be trained by their master, Mutaido.

@007_Sulista

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Guys, use every translation of the @Executor_N0 He has a wider range of acceptances, and also the administrators love his work, if anything is pending just ask him.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I don't know if you saw it, but there is some talk that hell and the world of the living are separated by space and time, This is in the Android 17 saga (DBGT), it was the @Firestorm808 which you mentioned once.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

This really surprises me to this day, What did Black see after he distorted spacetime?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

This really surprises me to this day, What did Black see after he distorted spacetime?

that he was on such a trash arc, made him go insane

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

@007_Sulista

OK, but there is an exact reference? Like "Daizenshuu 7 page 42" or something similar?