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Dragon Ball Super Discussion 23

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The real cal howard said:
Just because he destroyed that area that exists in its own spacetime doesn't mean that he destroyed its spacetime. Otherwise, anyone from another dimension would be High 3-A if they destroyed something from their dimension.
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Destroying something=/= destroying everything.

This is an outlier tho
 
No ones excited about the manga moving ahead again? On the downside that probably means "filler" arcs in the anime.
 
Shock97 said:
No ones excited about the manga moving ahead again? On the downside that probably means "filler" arcs in the anime.
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it will take quite a while for the manga to catch up to the anime
 
The Living Tribunal1 said:
the feat is useless basically
so will have to depend on the next episode
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It's not necessarily useless this is the first indication in the verse of somebody destroying an entire space-time continuum even if it is only planet sized it still exists on it's own fabric of space-time and destroying it should be impressive if were talking about only physical matter than obviously not that great but what he showed is good and would help solidify their stats in the future since they're already universal here that would be the next step up and even next episode we see Black what looks like slicing a hole with his scythe in the universe
 
Beerus1000 said:
Shock97 said:
No ones excited about the manga moving ahead again? On the downside that probably means "filler" arcs in the anime.
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it will take quite a while for the manga to catch up to the anime
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Not neccissarily. He could cover a majority of ground in about 2 months if he plays his cards right.Or just do a rush job towards the end like the Universe 6 conclusion, I'm thinking he might try to jump ahead at the beginning of 2017 since he specified near future for a few reasons.
 
No destroying a non univeresal 4D space is high 3A so it is still a upgrade.

Quoting the tiering system page: High Universe level: Characters who have an infinite degree of 3-dimensional power. Alternately 4-dimensional power that is shown as completely qualitatively superior to 3-Dimensional beings, but is less than universal in scale. Or that allows them to create large parts of a universal continuum. Take note that we consider most small scale time-space abilities as hax, not as AP.

Vegeta hasnt shown nor infinite 3-D power, nor 4-D power (otherwise everytime they powered up they'd be shaking space-time), nor has he created/destroyed a big space-continuum.
 
No destroying a non univeresal 4D space is high 3A so it is still a upgrade.

Quoting the tiering system page: High Universe level: Characters who have an infinite degree of 3-dimensional power. Alternately 4-dimensional power that is shown as completely qualitatively superior to 3-Dimensional beings, but is less than universal in scale. Or that allows them to create large parts of a universal continuum. Take note that we consider most small scale time-space abilities as hax, not as AP.

Vegeta hasnt shown nor infinite 3-D power, nor 4-D power (otherwise everytime they powered up they'd be shaking space-time), nor has he created/destroyed a big space-continuum.

He destroyed the time space continuum that was the room of spirit and time
 
^which qualifies as... what? is it infinite 3-D? 4-D power superior to any 3-D power (it is not)? Is it a large part or an universal sized continuum?
 
PaChi2 said:
^which qualifies as... what? is it infinite 3-D? 4-D power superior to any 3-D power (it is not)? Is it a large part or an universal sized continuum?
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He DID destroy the RoSaT, which still qualifies as a 4D feat, regardless of the size of the dimension.
 
The only reason it was being considered to be a High 3-A feat was because we thought it was infinite in size. But since it's apparently planet sized, it's not. We have absolutely no reason to assume that Vegeta destroyed the space-time of the place at the moment, and doing otherwise would be wanking. Now please drop the subject, you three.
 
The real cal howard said:
The only reason it was being considered to be a High 3-A feat was because we thought it was infinite in size. But since it's apparently planet sized, it's not. We have absolutely no reason to assume that Vegeta destroyed the space-time of the place at the moment, and doing otherwise would be wanking. Now please drop the subject, you three.
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Imagine yourself in a room, full of objects (bed, chair etc..) and imagine the walls being space-time, you can't fully destroy the room by destroying the objects inside it, you must destroy the walls as well. This is the case for Vegeta here, to get out of the RoSaT, you must destroy it completely, but since it was described as being an empty space, then what is there to destroy in the first place? Nothing, except for space-time, which is holding the RoSaT on a planetery scale.

For this reason, I and many others believe it's a 4D feat, and to suggest that it's wank just because of that is highly inacurrate.
 
The real cal howard said:
The only reason it was being considered to be a High 3-A feat was because we thought it was infinite in size. But since it's apparently planet sized, it's not. We have absolutely no reason to assume that Vegeta destroyed the space-time of the place at the moment, and doing otherwise would be wanking. Now please drop the subject, you three.
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the subject was dropped the same time it started, if they want the upgrade the should start a content revision thread for it. Anyway, I want to see that SSB vegito... it sure will be amazing... maybe if they dont defuse they'll battle beerus afterwards!
 
PaChi2 said:
The real cal howard wrote
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the subject was dropped the same time it started, if they want the upgrade the should start a content revision thread for it. Anyway, I want to see that SSB vegito... it sure will be amazing... maybe if they dont defuse they'll battle beerus afterwards!
well we where speculating besides some one did that it was closed intell next week
 
Can't we have Goku, and Vegeta try fusion and make Gogeta. Zamasu Black defeats them, because they ran out of time, and then its enter Vegito time!
 
So if black can cut space and time with a swing of that scythe would that count as a move that ignores conventual durability?
 
Huesito88 said:
So if black can cut space and time with a swing of that scythe would that count as a move that ignores conventual durability?
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Yep. It's 4-D power. It should ignore any 3-D being's durability.
 
Alexcar3000 said:
Huesito88 said:
So if black can cut space and time with a swing of that scythe would that count as a move that ignores conventual durability?
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Yep. It's 4-D power. It should ignore any 3-D being's durability.
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It's even better since he created it with his own ki. Since the Scythe is just a manifestation of his Ki. It should also apply to his stats.
 
cutting spacetime with scyth shud be dura ignore in general as long as it cuts space-time indiscriminantly without needing a large power boost to cut large sections of spacetime
 
Sorry to burst your bubble but that scythe most likely created the clones. Pay attention to their hair, Black's hair is light pink while the clones have dark pink hair.

It's not a tear in space it's mist.
 
Toei posted a timeline explanation for the Goku Black Arc on their website.

Unfortunately, Herms hasn't translated it yet.
 
Huesito88 said:
Wow this https://youtu.be/Qz_nTpZazGs it's spreading I tell spreading. Great now this is going to be brought up even more.
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so who wants to be the guy to tell him that the hyperbolic tim chamber is earth sized

i mean i would love to see solid evidence of it being infinite, but so far it seems to be defined as earth sized
 
I know just new users who haven't seen the thread where it was concluded Will bring this up. Every time I go in YouTube. I am going to be hearing about this and people saying vegeta/goku/allgods above those's two is beyond infinite
 
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